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Women's World Cup 2023 continued ⚽

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DuncinToffee · 12/08/2023 11:10

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/sports/4850404-womens-world-cup-2023?page=39&reply=128354661

Come on England!

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BellaAmorosa · 17/08/2023 09:20

@Ladybrrrd
It's an Arsenal Women podcast. Tim Stillman chatting to Helen Hardy who started a business of supplying women's football shirts (of any club) in response to unmet demands. One of the curious aspects that she highlights is that the shirt designers/clubs are not interested in marketing them. Leaving money on the table, as she or possibly Tim puts it.
This is the link to the page. You have to scroll down quite a way to get to the actual link to the chat.

https://arseblog.news/2023/06/arsenal-women-arsecast-episode-66-kitted-out/

Arsenal Women Arsecast Episode 66: Kitted out | Arseblog News - the Arsenal news site

https://arseblog.news/2023/06/arsenal-women-arsecast-episode-66-kitted-out

Ladybrrrd · 17/08/2023 11:26

Thanks!

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 17/08/2023 12:09

the80sweregreat · 16/08/2023 21:56

Been playing ' three lions ' today
Please tell me it's not going to Spain on Sunday ?..
I really want the girls to win. (If only to put the men's game to a bit of shame !)
I know it's only a game.

Well, anything can happen and that's what makes the Beautiful Game. But ..... no, if we keep our nerve, and there's absolutely nothing to suggest that we won't, then we should win 🏆🏆🏆⚽⚽⚽

Rivermedway · 17/08/2023 12:51

@Ladybrrrd iI could probably name more of the women’s squad than men’s at the moment!

Wonder if the male players and Prince William are flying out to support the Lionesses (Will is head of the FA)?

Bluejaybean · 17/08/2023 13:14

Prince William might be there as he was at the Euro's final and shook all their hands. I was thinking it would be really nice if he took Charlotte as well.

DuncinToffee · 17/08/2023 17:49

Emma Sanders

No Prince William or Rishi Sunak at the World Cup final. Leah Williamson will be there & so will Lucy Fraser (DCMS) & James Cleverly (UK foreign secretary).

Plans for a parade in London on Tuesday/Wed if England win.

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DuncinToffee · 17/08/2023 17:49

Also

England will wear their light blue away kit with white socks for the Women's World Cup final on Sunday. It's because they are listed as 'Team B'. Spain will therefore wear their home kit.

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BellaAmorosa · 17/08/2023 18:00

Thanks, @DuncinToffee
Leah Williamson is already out in Australia. I think she was there for the quarter-final match, but I might be wrong.

Nice to have ministerial representation, it shows a level of respect - but ultimately this is for the England Women fans to enjoy. (Fingers, toes and eyes crossed!)

I hate the blue kit. But it doesn't matter what we wear.

YouOnlyCameToSeeEboue · 17/08/2023 18:07

Nice to have ministerial representation

Not when it's the absolute proof that nominative determinism doesn't exist - James Cleverley...

Aphrodite89 · 17/08/2023 18:29

WeetabixTowels · 16/08/2023 21:34

What I love about this team is that there is no one carrying the whole team - they are all stars shining equally, and without Mead, James, Williamson, Kirby we still deliver a strong game. The depth of talent is unreal and the fact any combination of line up delivers a top performance shows just how brilliant and together this team is.

I hope that this humility stays with the Lionesses even as they become more and more successful. I sometimes worry England Men’s are too well paid to give a shit anymore

England's men donate all their international fees and earnings to charity, they regularly turn up for squads whilst carrying injuries and despite their clubs trying to keep them away. For this they largely receive criticism and abuse of varying forms, a chunk of it classist and racist.

If they didn't give a shit, why would they continue to do this for free when they could easily be spending international breaks enjoying themselves on a beach somewhere, staying fresh for their clubs or earning a substantial amount of money doing commercial work for sponsors.

BellaAmorosa · 17/08/2023 19:22

@Aphrodite89

I agree somewhat - many footballers are very generous with charitable donations and both through their clubs and off their own bat, they try to improve others' lives. And particularly so when they come from poor backgrounds, IMO. They feel the imperative to give back.

Others are selfish arses, but you could say that about tennis players, actors, or musicians, or anyone in the entertainment industry. Not to mention all the alleged rapists and drink-drivers and manslaughter-ers. Any group of young men with loads of money will contain a cohort who behave like this. But they all, saints, swine or everything in between, most definitely give a shit about football and winning stuff.

However. Playing for England is good for your career and your off-field earnings. It gives you an edge when you are being considered for that lucrative TV gig after you retire from playing. The amount they are paid for England duty is reported to be around £2,000 per game. PL players earn many tens of thousands of pounds a week from their clubs and can forgo that £2,000 without pain. Only a handful of women in the WSL earn more than about £150,000 a year. The average salary is £30,000 a year and some earn £20,000. So the England payments are much more important to women footballers.

I don't like to set men's and women's football against each other. The landscape around them is totally different. And the footballers themselves seem in reality to be very supportive of each other, at club and national level.

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BellaAmorosa · 17/08/2023 19:58

Have a listen to the podcast I linked to upthread. The situation with replica women's shirts is barking mad. Poor Mary Earps, though. No wonder she's a bit hacked off!

DuncinToffee · 17/08/2023 20:04

BellaAmorosa · 17/08/2023 19:58

Have a listen to the podcast I linked to upthread. The situation with replica women's shirts is barking mad. Poor Mary Earps, though. No wonder she's a bit hacked off!

I read an article about the Swedish goalkeepers and their battle with shirts that has been going on for a few years now.

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BellaAmorosa · 17/08/2023 20:21

Was it the same issue - no stock?

DuncinToffee · 17/08/2023 20:25

I can't remember exactly, I'll have a search for it.

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ohotoframe · 19/08/2023 08:43

What is the issue with the Spanish team that has been referenced?

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DuncinToffee · 19/08/2023 09:29

Penalty Sweden

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DuncinToffee · 19/08/2023 09:30

1-0 Sweden

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LadyShimura · 19/08/2023 09:33

I've had to mute the game. The fans screaming and booing is getting on my tits.

DuncinToffee · 19/08/2023 09:48

I have no problems with that, it's basically a home game for Australia.

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LadyShimura · 19/08/2023 09:51

I'm watching on laptop and the noise really sounds awful through laptop speakers.

DuncinToffee · 19/08/2023 10:28

Wow, great strike!

2-0 Sweden

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