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How much should we expect from an ADHD son - he risks being seen as lazy and entitled.

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FedUpandFiftyNine · 20/06/2026 07:34

How much leeway do you give SN young adults and when do you step in and say ‘look, you need to learn to address this’?
DS23 lives at home with us after a post grad last year. Claims to be wanting to look for work, but no evidence of any activity.
We just came back from a family self catering holiday with wider family and DH and I were shocked and embarrassed by how he came across.
He just didn’t do any of the normal stuff like help pack or unpack cars, or make a round of coffees, lay table for meals, bring food through, clear plates, load/empty dishwasher etc. on the morning we were leaving everyone was running around tidying and emptying the rental house and he emerged from his room 30 mins before we were due to leave and started making himself breakfast!

I drove home separately with DS (due to other weekend logistics) and I did the whole 4 hour drive. Within minutes of arriving he asked when/what was for dinner, and when I said ‘no idea’ he started microwaving himself a ready meal. I had to ask him to stop and help unload the car.
Is this just his ADHD or is entitledness and laziness creeping in? If he behaves like this with his friends he won’t have any!
Obviously he’s always had traits like this but they seem to have got worse!

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thelongesday · 20/06/2026 20:46

I don't know why it's so exhausting just asking him to do a specific job on holiday - he probably just had no idea what to do to be useful. Also why didn't you wake him up when on the last morning if things needed doing - what did he need to do apart from pack his stuff which I assume he did? why was everyone rushing around so much? - when you asked him to unpack the car did he do it? If so why are you making it into such an issue?

It all sounds very weird to me though. You all sound very busy and like you're carting tons of stuff around. Maybe he didn't take much and didn't really see why he needed to help you keep packing and unpacking all the stuff you'd decided to take. What was there to unpack? Did you really need so much stuff?

Being ND probably means he's great academically but has no idea how to join in with group tasks and IS actually unable to 'read the room'. I don't think you're being played like a fiddle at all - but anyone who has no experience of an ND child will. Plenty of ignorant people who like to stick their two pence in on here.

My DS (ASD) would be exactly the same, he is definitely not lazy, he's doing a degree apprenticeship working 4 days, one day of uni and then coursework at the weekends. But he'd have no idea how to navigate a self catering holiday with wider family. He'd rather have a microwave meal that get involved in preparing some big family meal for everyone. It wouldn't surprise me if your son had ASD traits too as I really recognise the behaviour.

Why not focus on the fact that he's happy to help out if you ask him to do something? You sound really quite down on him.

Personally I think you should forget the holiday and focus instead on supporting him with applying for jobs - it's probably another thing where he doesn't know where to start and is terrified of failing. Being academic and doing well through school, uni and post grad is very, very different from being in the 'real' world - having to talk yourself up and make yourself sound capable and experienced in the application, having interviews, competing against other very academic and potentially much more socially able people and facing possible rejection after rejection.

dannyboyle · 20/06/2026 20:56

i have a teen with audhd. we have had conversations about this when all is calm and she just says that she really just doesn’t know when things need to be done if it is for other people, especially when out of routine, such as when away. she will say that she doesn’t help because others will just do instead. she is not shirking, just really doesn’t know what to do and how to muck in, describes it as simply being unaware, eg that others may want a drink.
best way we have found is giving specific jobs and sticking to them so she knows what it is she can help with. bring in shopping, pit things in freezer, unload dishwasher, please check if granny needs a cup of tea and make her one.

MrsJeanLuc · 20/06/2026 21:26

It does end up making him look entitled and lazy as he just lets everyone else do all the work, and we all tend to avoid 'making a scene' about it until something tips the balance.
The other problem is that he's a perfectionist and often takes such a long time to do a simple task that people can't wait!

OMG @FedUpandFiftyNine just listen to yourself! Your son is a lazy entitled taker. And you are enabling him.

Let me ask you a few questions :

  • are you going to keep doing this for the rest of your life?
  • how is he ever going to function as an adult?
  • what is going to happen to him when you die?

STOP. ffs just stop!

Laura95167 · 20/06/2026 21:29

FedUpandFiftyNine · 20/06/2026 07:34

How much leeway do you give SN young adults and when do you step in and say ‘look, you need to learn to address this’?
DS23 lives at home with us after a post grad last year. Claims to be wanting to look for work, but no evidence of any activity.
We just came back from a family self catering holiday with wider family and DH and I were shocked and embarrassed by how he came across.
He just didn’t do any of the normal stuff like help pack or unpack cars, or make a round of coffees, lay table for meals, bring food through, clear plates, load/empty dishwasher etc. on the morning we were leaving everyone was running around tidying and emptying the rental house and he emerged from his room 30 mins before we were due to leave and started making himself breakfast!

I drove home separately with DS (due to other weekend logistics) and I did the whole 4 hour drive. Within minutes of arriving he asked when/what was for dinner, and when I said ‘no idea’ he started microwaving himself a ready meal. I had to ask him to stop and help unload the car.
Is this just his ADHD or is entitledness and laziness creeping in? If he behaves like this with his friends he won’t have any!
Obviously he’s always had traits like this but they seem to have got worse!

I dont know why ADHD would prevent you helping relatives or knowing how entitled it is to ask about food after you just drive him for 4 hrs.

Sorry I vote lazy and entitled. I think he might have struggles a NT person might not but not so many he couldnt do anything. If he can microwave hos tea he can tidy a table. Hes 23 not 10. He needs to pull his weight

StMarie4me · 20/06/2026 21:31

wisbech · 20/06/2026 16:37

If he has a post grad degree, he's definitely high functioning enough. Sounds like weaponised incompetence - I mean, why should he bother if others pick up the slack?

Maybe tell him to move out to a shared flat, subsidising his rent until he gets a job

You do realise that you’re talking this way about a young man with a disability? Would you say the same if he had a more visible disability? Are you always this ableist? Or do you think ND people shouldn’t be able to gain an education? Do tell.

GabriellaFaith · 21/06/2026 02:46

I think they just need more direction that a 'typical' adult. You said if you asked him to do something he did. So i I would work on getting him to ask when you arrive at places / after dinner (as examples), 'can I help?' that way people can direct him and he doesn't come across as rude or entitled.

Trillie · 21/06/2026 05:50

There must be advice online on how parents can help their children diagnosed with ADHD to negotiate social situations. It sounds as if he needs some guidelines explained to him, such as if everyone is cooking or preparing food he should offer to help.

LalaPaloosa2024 · 21/06/2026 07:20

I couldn’t tolerate this. Did you ask him to help as he was growing up? I consistent ask now as my child is in primary school for help with everything and teach her to do her part. Ie. Not leaving used plates, cups, wrappers around. They go to the dishwasher or bin. She puts her clothes away etc. I don’t think you can expect this to come out of nowhere if they haven’t been participating all along.

Becks2479 · 21/06/2026 08:21

Same boat. 16-year-old boy with ADHD. His executive function is a real struggle. He is so kind and caring, but he doesn't know 'how' to help. If I say 'Under that table needs hoovering', he's straight to it. He seems pleased that the instructions are so specific. But if we're in a social situation and instructions aren't absolutely clear- everyone is just 'pitching in'- he then has to use his initiative, organise his thoughts and prioritise, which requires executive function. He has no ability to do this. He wanders around not knowing how to help or what the best thing to do is. I can see that he wants to, but I can also see his brain struggling to make sense of it. Maybe you can try being as specific as possible, like you're putting something into Chat GPT!
'Please do the washing up tonight after everyone has finished eating their tea.'
'Please clean all those crumbs off the sideboard with the cloth.'
Make it clear what needs doing and when, as the only problem they have is the lack of ability to organise themselves into action.
If he takes things as a personal attack, make it neutral by writing a chart/list of expectations for everyone. That way, it's not YOU asking him to do things or highlighting what he hasn't done. It's on the chart, it's in black and white. You have nothing to do with it. No emotion can enter into it. Good luck! xx

JuneyK · 21/06/2026 09:51

There are a lot of people on here chucking lazy and entitled about who I’m guessing have never parented a ND child. I have such a similar situation with my ND 15 year old but it’s NOT the same as weaponised incompetence, their brains don’t work in the same way. My child would look at the bustle and chaos and find that overwhelming, would be nervous that any help would be wrong and terrified of doing the wrong thing that they’d just shut down. Clear instruction and one thing at a time is the only way it works. Lists are your friend. I haven’t figured it out for them yet but I do know how crushing they find it when their (incredibly frustrating at times) behaviour is misconstrued as selfish and lazy.

TheOldWorldIsDyingTheNewWorldStrugglesToBeBorn · 21/06/2026 10:00

He doesn’t risk being seen as lazy and entitled. He is lazy and entitled. You owe it to him and the people around him to train him into a human who can pull his weight. His SN doesn’t exempt him from helping. You are obviously going to have to approach this gently and build gradually. But if you and DH are working as a team and agree an approach, you will succeed. Does he work? What does he do all day? Does he have empathy for others? What are the plans for him moving out? You memories ds. Does he have (m)any?
If he is able to have a relationship with a GF, he’s able to do the dishes. You say he will do tasks if given so make it task based. Tell him what he is expected to do and don’t let him off the hook. If he’s taking all day, give a time limit. You say it’s exhausting living in a battlefield with your son. Well, don’t fight. Be matter of fact. Refusal to engage has consequences. Parenting is exhausting. It’s repetitive. But it’s your job. You have created this situation and you will end up saddled with a hopeless lump of a human in your old age if you are not careful.

scoopofmintchocchipicecream · 21/06/2026 10:39

Some DC with ADHD need to be explicitly taught skills related to social interaction and communication and ADL. That isn’t the same as being lazy and entitled. Rather than calling him out afterwards, which focuses on failure, I would focus on learning the skills to put in place. If he gets defensive when you call him out afterwards, that may be rejection sensitive dysphoria at play. Has DS had ever had ADHD coaching? What about an OT assessment?

Okiedokie123 · 21/06/2026 12:46

DanNW2025 · 20/06/2026 18:20

So, imagine it is the 1960s or 70s or 80s when ADHD didnt exist, or we didnt label everyone with everything. You write or read this, would you describe him as naughty and lazy? ADHD is just a thing to hide behind. If he can complete a post grad and concentrate to do so lets question whether his ADHD is genuine or something he can use to get away with doing sod all. Get him to give his head a wobble and get a job. Appreciate he is your son so you probably wont be as harsh but he is lazy and taking advantage for his own benefit and is very clever in doing so.

It’s you that needs to give your head a wobble.

FedUpandFiftyNine · 21/06/2026 16:02

Thanks for the helpful advice from the parents of other ND young adults - I think you understood what I was asking and responded accordingly. I do feel that some folk without any experience of ND kids have wandered onto this thread just to shout ‘lazy and entitled!’
FWIW I don’t believe he is a selfish, unpleasant lazy character. Yes, he got through uni, but only with a lot of support and help. He also found all the balancing of life admin and coursework exhausting and often had to come home to decompress. It was touch and go at one point as to whether he might drop out.
I guess I thought he was managing OK in life but the weekend away seemed to bring into sharp focus how he sometimes behaves/presents.

Im not sure why a PP was so incredulous about why we were busy packing on the last morning? Just the usual stuff - getting eight people out of a holiday property by 10 am, packing up e.g. beach towels, emptying fridges/freezer into cool bags, putting rubbish out, ensuring clean enough to get deposit back, loading bikes onto cars, and co-ordinating lifts to stations etc etc
We did wake him up/ knock on his door, but he was sharing a room with his girlfriend and I wasn’t going to barge in!

I think it might be worth exploring ADHD coaching, or similar, and perhaps medication. @Yoonimum can I ask which medication was successful for your child - how did it affect things?

It’s not all bad - this morning for example he got up and (unprompted) cooked DH a big breakfast for Fathers Day. That’s something he’d planned and put in his diary - that’s the difference.

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scoopofmintchocchipicecream · 21/06/2026 17:14

I think some people suggesting things like ADHD didn’t exist (it did) and it is something to hide behind ignored, forgot or didn’t realise this in the SN board.

Not particularly related to what you discuss in your OP, but more generally around ADHD difficulties and executive function etc. DS may find Brain in Hand helpful.

TheOldWorldIsDyingTheNewWorldStrugglesToBeBorn · 21/06/2026 17:59

FedUpandFiftyNine · 21/06/2026 16:02

Thanks for the helpful advice from the parents of other ND young adults - I think you understood what I was asking and responded accordingly. I do feel that some folk without any experience of ND kids have wandered onto this thread just to shout ‘lazy and entitled!’
FWIW I don’t believe he is a selfish, unpleasant lazy character. Yes, he got through uni, but only with a lot of support and help. He also found all the balancing of life admin and coursework exhausting and often had to come home to decompress. It was touch and go at one point as to whether he might drop out.
I guess I thought he was managing OK in life but the weekend away seemed to bring into sharp focus how he sometimes behaves/presents.

Im not sure why a PP was so incredulous about why we were busy packing on the last morning? Just the usual stuff - getting eight people out of a holiday property by 10 am, packing up e.g. beach towels, emptying fridges/freezer into cool bags, putting rubbish out, ensuring clean enough to get deposit back, loading bikes onto cars, and co-ordinating lifts to stations etc etc
We did wake him up/ knock on his door, but he was sharing a room with his girlfriend and I wasn’t going to barge in!

I think it might be worth exploring ADHD coaching, or similar, and perhaps medication. @Yoonimum can I ask which medication was successful for your child - how did it affect things?

It’s not all bad - this morning for example he got up and (unprompted) cooked DH a big breakfast for Fathers Day. That’s something he’d planned and put in his diary - that’s the difference.

That’s good OP. I’m glad you are happy with it all and have the help you need. I think if you go back to your original post it was you who described him as coming across as “lazy and entitled”. Out of the home bubble and in the presence of others and - let’s face it, these are his wider family who presumably know and love him - you were embarrassed, which is a horrible feeling to have about a DC. There are worse things to be than lazy and entitled and there are plenty of young people who present like this, although they are not, I think you’ll agree endearing character traits. I’m not sure it matters hugely if he IS lazy and entitled or if he just presents as lazy and entitled (but deep down is hard working and humble). If he does not have the life skills to participate in a group holiday at 23 it’s going to be a problem for him. You owe it to him to tackle this. If you’d rather use medication and coaching to get him to do the dishes then that’s your prerogative. Setting boundaries and parenting is the way it used to be done and worked for lots of us during the teenage years but that’s perhaps old fashioned and you know your son. Good luck with it.

Yoonimum · 21/06/2026 20:33

FedUpandFiftyNine · 21/06/2026 16:02

Thanks for the helpful advice from the parents of other ND young adults - I think you understood what I was asking and responded accordingly. I do feel that some folk without any experience of ND kids have wandered onto this thread just to shout ‘lazy and entitled!’
FWIW I don’t believe he is a selfish, unpleasant lazy character. Yes, he got through uni, but only with a lot of support and help. He also found all the balancing of life admin and coursework exhausting and often had to come home to decompress. It was touch and go at one point as to whether he might drop out.
I guess I thought he was managing OK in life but the weekend away seemed to bring into sharp focus how he sometimes behaves/presents.

Im not sure why a PP was so incredulous about why we were busy packing on the last morning? Just the usual stuff - getting eight people out of a holiday property by 10 am, packing up e.g. beach towels, emptying fridges/freezer into cool bags, putting rubbish out, ensuring clean enough to get deposit back, loading bikes onto cars, and co-ordinating lifts to stations etc etc
We did wake him up/ knock on his door, but he was sharing a room with his girlfriend and I wasn’t going to barge in!

I think it might be worth exploring ADHD coaching, or similar, and perhaps medication. @Yoonimum can I ask which medication was successful for your child - how did it affect things?

It’s not all bad - this morning for example he got up and (unprompted) cooked DH a big breakfast for Fathers Day. That’s something he’d planned and put in his diary - that’s the difference.

Hi @FedUpandFiftyNine
Our son is on Elvanse; it's a controlled drug because it's an amphetamine. This is a very typical drug used to treat ADHD. You will almost certainly have to go private to get him treated without a wait of months or more likely years. If you can afford it I would highly recommend an IRL clinic with a good track record in follow up because your son will need the drug titrated (dose adjusted) over about 3 months and in person support and coaching during this period is so helpful. I have heard some horror stories about the cheaper, online services so be careful.
I've had a long day gardening and rather than talk about my son specifically I've used AI to pull together typical benefits of Elvanse and I got it to focus on the example you gave of your group holiday. The driving example with reference to impulsivity IS an actual issue our son had which has completely resolved with meds. Hope this all helps.

ADHD is often misunderstood as an attention problem, but for many people the most disabling aspect is executive dysfunction — the inability to reliably initiate, organise, and follow through on tasks, particularly ones that feel routine, unglamorous, or that don't generate immediate reward. From the outside this can look very much like laziness, selfishness, or not caring. The person standing by while others cook, set the table, clear up, and load the car isn't necessarily indifferent — they may be genuinely unable to bridge the gap between knowing something needs doing and actually starting it. That gap, which neurotypical people cross almost automatically, can feel like wading through concrete for someone with ADHD. Add a busy or unfamiliar environment with multiple simultaneous demands — exactly the kind of thing a group holiday involves — and the overwhelm can cause complete shutdown rather than pitching in.
This is compounded by what's sometimes called task inertia: once stuck, getting unstuck requires a disproportionate amount of mental effort. It's not a character flaw. It's a neurological one.
The other side of the coin is impulsivity — acting before thinking, rather than failing to act at all. This shows up in conversations (interrupting, dominating, saying things without filtering), in decision-making, and in physical behaviour. Driving too fast is a classic example: not recklessness in the usual sense, but a failure of the brake between impulse and action. The thought "I could go faster" becomes the behaviour, without the neurotypical pause that weighs it against consequences. ADHD impulsivity and ADHD inertia can coexist in the same person, and both stem from the same underlying difficulty with self-regulation.
Around 8 in 10 people on Elvanse report meaningful improvement in attention, emotional regulation, and daily function. Clinically, it produces significant gains not just in core ADHD symptoms but in overall functioning, executive function, and quality of life — including in those with significant pre-existing impairment in this area. Practically, this means people can hold multiple threads of life in mind simultaneously without collapsing into avoidance or overwhelm. It improves the motivation to actually do something and promotes goal-directed behaviour. Procrastination decreases. The ability to notice what needs doing, decide to do it, and start — without needing an external prompt or reaching crisis point first — improves substantially. Impulsive responses become easier to catch and override: that fraction of a second between impulse and action, which previously wasn't there, starts to exist.
For someone managing the ordinary demands of adult life, contributing fairly to a shared experience, or simply making safer choices moment to moment, that shift can be the difference between coping and not.
It doesn't fix everything, and it isn't instant. But for those it suits, it addresses the root of the problem rather than just the surface behaviour.

Ineedlotsofteaeveryday · 24/06/2026 00:58

This sounds a bit like my eldest daughter. Her room is always messy to the point where I end up clearing and tidying everything away after several requests/suggestions that she does so. She also gets very defensive when asked to do something or if questioned about something that she hasn't done.
She is also at Uni and has told us that she needs to repeat her first year as her marks are low and I have suspected that she wasn't putting in enough work and study. She applied for an ADHD assessment when she was in Year 12 at school but hasn't heard anything about it. It's difficult because she comes across as lazy but if specifically asked to do a job, like put the washing out on the line, she'll do it. It's exhausting sometimes as there's things she can do but she won't do them or she'll take an age to do them. Doesn't help when her dad doesn't get or won't entertain anything about ADHD/ Autism and says we were soft on her behaviour from an early age. I admit I'm confused about the whole thing and just fed up with the arguments in the house. Sorry I'm not offering any words of advice here, just sympathising I guess 🙁

Yoonimum · 24/06/2026 09:00

Ineedlotsofteaeveryday · 24/06/2026 00:58

This sounds a bit like my eldest daughter. Her room is always messy to the point where I end up clearing and tidying everything away after several requests/suggestions that she does so. She also gets very defensive when asked to do something or if questioned about something that she hasn't done.
She is also at Uni and has told us that she needs to repeat her first year as her marks are low and I have suspected that she wasn't putting in enough work and study. She applied for an ADHD assessment when she was in Year 12 at school but hasn't heard anything about it. It's difficult because she comes across as lazy but if specifically asked to do a job, like put the washing out on the line, she'll do it. It's exhausting sometimes as there's things she can do but she won't do them or she'll take an age to do them. Doesn't help when her dad doesn't get or won't entertain anything about ADHD/ Autism and says we were soft on her behaviour from an early age. I admit I'm confused about the whole thing and just fed up with the arguments in the house. Sorry I'm not offering any words of advice here, just sympathising I guess 🙁

Please, please do what ever you can to help her get an assessment. Her whole life is in danger of unravelling. Ignore her dad. Honestly, as the mother of an ADHD child who was in crisis it breaks my heart to read this.

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