does *anyone* like these schmaltzy poems??

[Fio2]

i am in a yahoo group and least 1 new poem is posted on alternate days. i never open themof course else I would vomit. But does anyone actually like them?

yes I do - in the same way that there are some people that believe God will pay the bills......

I think the point that people have been making is that it is totaly insensitive to tell the parent of a SN child child that this happened so that God could show mercy, or allow a miracle to happen. For what it is worth I would find it equally awful to say that this happened because of a child's bad Karma.

And I 'm writing as the mother of two NT children. This is , to my mind, a classic case of 'saying nothing' may be the best thing to say and so avoid causing considerable offense.

can you imagine having all the poets round for tea, what a party that would be.........

QofQ i apologise for posting the bible passage, just find it a tad unecessary that people think it is appropriate the post it on a website and try to shove it down peoples throats. as for the poems, they are crap, i dont think its a God bashing exercise

but HMB - what if the person who says it also has SN children and believes it - is the insensitive too?

I'm not complaining about bashing of the bad poetry - I'm complaing about the "God bashing" that was happening in this thread.........

have you heard of Kalms QofQ, honestly this was a completely harmless fun thread......

I will get mumsnet to delete my bible passage though i can see why that might offend people.....

I know it started out that way - and I was going to join in - until I started feeling rather put out by the God bashing.......

People's beliefs ae their own afair, but they don't have to pass them on in an insensitive way.

Fio, no don't! It's not like you made it up! If people are upset by what's in the Bible, that' s hardly your fault.
I think the poems are trite, patronising and vomit-inducing, though I know other people like them. I think if I had a child with severe problems the idea that I was deliberately given that child by God would so piss me off.

Thank you, HMB! I agree. I feel really insulted when someone says God will pay my bills or that my child is developmentally delayed b/c God chose me to be her mother. Gimme a BREAK! And I am a Christian.

And God doesn't pay my bills. In fact, I'm on the brink of financial ruin right now, thanks much, and what's helping are tranquilisers and an appointment with an OB to see how to go about treating my depression. And still I'm wondering how to afford things I've discovered can help DD along.

Shit happens! And it happens to all sorts of people, religous or not. Such is life.

So excuse me for feeling patronised when someone with NT kids sends me schmaltz like these poems and expects me to feel better. Or worse yet, agree with it.

Expatinscotland. I remember my very devout christian father saying once 'They say that who God loves he chasens, I just wish he would love someone else for a bit instead of me!' (he had terminal cancer at the time, died in the faith but was pissed of with miss applied 'support' of that type)

"And God doesn't pay my bills."

Well someone has been paying our bills for the last 9 months. We had 10k in the bank (inheritance) have spent £30k on the business and had no income - yet payed all our bills.

DH and I both STRONGLY believe that "God provides" if you trust him enough - and we do.

Well, glad it worked out for you, QoQ. I haven't been so lucky. In fact, last time I trusted like that, I wound up homeless. I prefer to help myself instead.

Besides, this thread is about schmaltzy poems dealing w/SN.

anyway with the original question in mind, do you like the schmaltzy poems QofQ?

ahh poetry - i rather like this one

Oh Lord, won?t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, won?t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Oh Lord, won?t you buy me a color TV ?
Dialing For Dollars is trying to find me.
I wait for delivery each day until three,
So oh Lord, won?t you buy me a color TV ?

Oh Lord, won?t you buy me a night on the town ?
I?m counting on you, Lord, please don?t let me down.
Prove that you love me and buy the next round,
Oh Lord, won?t you buy me a night on the town ?

Everybody!
Oh Lord, won?t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends,
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So oh Lord, won?t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

That?s it!

J. Joplin

Used to be on the Juke Box in the local I went to when I was in the sixth form. Thanks for that, it brought back nice memories!

Aw, custardo! That song is a classic, ain't it. Along with her immortal line, 'Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose.'

berluddy hell. Go away for an afternoon trying to think of a poetic response for this sort of shit and in the meantime....

Hmmm I didn't find it offensive that someone suggested I pray (although being atheist I guess I could have), but I did find it laughable and a demonstration that the person didn't really have a clue (however well meant it was) because really we would have to be moving mountains to do anything with ds1. I do find that sort of thing comes with the tagline of "if only you'd believe in god........" same as "if only you did this therapy". All well and lovely but frankly not true.

Am I religious? Only in the way my friend's mum is. She lights candles, rings bells in buhddist temples, pays for shinto wishes- whatever- because "I like to keep them all happy, you never know which one might be true". (sorry but makes me ROFL every tim e- I love that!)

Anyway my friend is praying, and my cousin (new age) is plugging him into a computer to send vibes this way or something. Whatever, providing they don't send me a crap poem about it I don't really care.

I can't really see the god bashing here to be honest.

actually seriously I think anyone who thinks that they have a SN child because God chose them has serious denials going on. Or maybe its to deal with the guilt for not being able to battle the system effectively (never sure how to deal with that what if I had done x guilt).

i like custys song as well- must dig out the album.

Personally I think most of these poems mention god because they're written by Americans (sorry expat )

don't know about 'GOD' giving me my boys because i 'deserved' them or it was thought that i'd 'cope'...but i have ALWAYS been thankful that I ended up with my boys and not somone like MY OWN MUM- as i had a SHIT childhood ....and though i'd prefer to not have some aspects of my boys behaviours....they seem alot happier than i was as a child.

As far as cheesy poems go- I like the ones i read- and ignore the ones i am offended by.

We all have different experiences of our children's special needs.... sometimes i need them to reduce me to tears- i get so wound up concealing how i feel- that it is a relief to read something that 'lets it all out'

I'm also sad that these threads (which end up useting people) are getting more common- I am scared to post nowadays as either people are doubted as to their sincerity...or mocked. It's getting much harder to be honest- you have to be careful you don't start a another argument.

i mis-typed in my post...this is what i meant to say.....
"We all have different experiences of our children's special needs.... sometimes i need THE CHEESY POEMS to reduce me to tears- i get so wound up concealing how i feel- that it is a relief to read something that 'lets it all out'