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My baby's lack of sleep is ruining my life

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crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 19:33

She is just a terrible sleeper and has been since day one. Had severe colic until 16 weeks and has always, ALWAYS needed rocking and feeding to sleep. She has never slept without this. She is six months old.

The last week, this is no longer working and she is screaming bloody murder from bedtime every night, all throughout the night and is sleeping only in 20 min intervals on one of us and is waking the moment we put her down. Have tried pain relief in case it's teething pain, nothing works.

Tried sleep training g but she doesn't tire - will just scream for hours unless held.

I honestly want to die. What do I do?

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crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 21:13

numberthirtytwowindsorgardens · 23/04/2024 21:09

Oh OP, I so remember this. My daughter was an absolutely hideous sleeper.

Nothing we tried worked, so I don't have any advice, except - ignore all the stuff people say about creating a rod for your own back. DD was such a disastrous sleeper that I just fed her to sleep, co-slept, did literally whatever she needed - now, at 2.5, she still feeds before bed, but doesn't need me to go to sleep and will settle quite happily for someone else if I'm not there. She sleeps through, mostly, and has even become capable of staying in bed until her gro clock goes yellow.

My point is- it is SO, SO much easier the older they yet, because they understand more and you can reason with them. I can now tell DD 'stay in bed until your clock turns yellow', and she can understand (and do it!). Babies can't do that.

So to hell with all the 'sleep habits' bullshit. I'm sure it's great if you have a normal, functioning baby, but if you have a mad one like ours, you do whatever you need to to get through another day. You will get through, you will sleep again, and one day your daughter will be the most glorious child whom you can't quite associate with that screaming, sleepless monster. But for now- do whatever you can, and don't worry about setting up bad habits.

Sending you love, OP - it is SO hard, but it will pass. You are doing amazingly. Flowers

Thank you xxx

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crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 21:13

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:12

Nobody should be feeling as bad as this ever. I may have missed it, but do you have any family/friends who could at least give you the chance to get some sleep and then formulate a way ahead?

Nope, no help

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eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:13

I would suggest if all medical problems have been ruled out, maybe tough it out.

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:14

Suggest husband takes over for a few days, to enable you to get your head down.
You are the adults, the baby fits into your life.

Please get help.

crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 21:16

TheOneWithUnagi · 23/04/2024 21:10

I'd hugely recommend getting a sleep consultant involved.

To me it sounds like bedtime is too early, I would really prioritise naps in the day whatever way you can - contact napping, car, buggy whatever - and push bedtime later. Look at wake windows and revolve your day around them. Work on timings first and then worry about location / how baby is sleeping.

We used a sleep consultant with both our babies and it was a complete life saver.

FWIW my 7 month old only does 30 mins naps and that seems right for him. We still get 3-5 hour stretches overnight (after working on it a lot!)

Good luck ❤️

I've thought this too but she just wakes wide awake from naps and is vibrating with energy, regardless of what I do - so pushing bedtime back just seems impossible as she is ratty/rubbing her eyes and crying.

I wouldn't know where to start with a sleep consultant, it's a lot of money for no guarantee

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crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 21:17

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:14

Suggest husband takes over for a few days, to enable you to get your head down.
You are the adults, the baby fits into your life.

Please get help.

I've had 2 days rest but I physically can't cope with rhe screaming regardless of rest, it makes me want to die

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crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 21:18

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:13

I would suggest if all medical problems have been ruled out, maybe tough it out.

What does this mean?

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eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:18

The GP? A thorough examination and a way forward?

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:20

Please please see a doctor. This is awful. May I kindly ask why you are so isolated? are there no clubs and so on with other parents?

crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 21:23

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:20

Please please see a doctor. This is awful. May I kindly ask why you are so isolated? are there no clubs and so on with other parents?

I've been to the GP so many times since she was born, but she presents well during the day. They've never seen the issues.

I mentioned, I go to groups every day. I have friends, but they all have kids and have their plates full. If me and my husband can't cope I wouldn't expect a friend who barely knows her to be able to.

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HoneyMustard · 23/04/2024 21:24

Sorry I haven't read the full thread so apologies if I've missed it, but have you tried engaging a professional sleep consultant? Not one of the ones who will just come in and tell your baby to cry it out but one who will assess all aspects of your routine timings, food/milk, sleep environment etc. I haven't but I know friends who have and said it was life changing. You have my sympathy, I've got 3 kids and none have been great sleepers, although on in particular was so awful and I found it hard to cope x

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:25

Are you telling the GP the full story and how you feel you can't go on sometimes?

I am really sorry you are going through this.

LouLou198 · 23/04/2024 21:26

Is it worth maybe filming how she is at night, then you can show a doctor? Sorry your health visitors haven't been much help.

Itonlytakesone · 23/04/2024 21:26

Id definitely try Colief drops only thing that eased it for us. Lifesaver. Keep going I know it's so hard xx

bakewellbride · 23/04/2024 21:26

If you Google it op there are volunteers who can come to your house and help you. I can't remember the details but perhaps you could ask your HV? Looking back I really regret not getting help in, I was 'too proud' which was ridiculous of me. We have zero family nearby too so again I can empathise.

MigGirl · 23/04/2024 21:27

I would highly recommend reading this.

https://www.askdrsears.com/topics/health-concerns/fussy-baby/high-need-baby/

I read his book when DD was a baby, although it didn't solve the problem it made me realise that she was a totally normal baby. She just need more of everything. Even as a teenager she is full on and wants to be on the go constantly.

You do anything you need to to get through this really difficult stage, the sleep really does get better with time.

High Needs Baby | Ask Dr. Sears

A high needs baby, otherwise known as a fussy baby, requires additional attention.

https://www.askdrsears.com/topics/health-concerns/fussy-baby/high-need-baby

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:27

Cranial osteopath?

crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 21:27

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:25

Are you telling the GP the full story and how you feel you can't go on sometimes?

I am really sorry you are going through this.

No, I'm going for her and not for me.

Respectfully, I know what MH issues are. I don't have them, I have previously but this is purely environmental. I've had 6 months of hell with my baby and im running out of steam.

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Venturini · 23/04/2024 21:27

crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 21:11

The problem is I can't sleep despite exhaustion - every cry wakes me up even in a different room

use brown or white noise to block it out, its the only thing that gave me the chance to sleep and not be jolted by every scream while my partner was on shift with the baby

TheOneWithUnagi · 23/04/2024 21:28

@crispyeggs I would recommend the one we used/ are using. She also does a free 30 mins call so you can see if you think it will work for you.
You can PM me if you want details.
We found the HV utterly useless, but the consultant gave us a solid plan, reviewed the sleep diary etc. with my daughter we had struggled for 2 years and our issues were sorted within a couple of weeks.

As for naps, add an extra nap and make bedtime later. Eg last nap 5pm and then 7.30/8 bedtime. The fact you are struggling at bedtime and baby isn't staying asleep it sounds like the timing is off.

Samanabanana · 23/04/2024 21:30

I had one of these babies. It's so bloody hard OP. Nothing medically wrong with mine when he was younger either. HV and Dr were kind and I followed all advice but nothing helped at the time and I felt utterly helpless and like it would never get better. But they do grow out of it I promise. Said baby is now 2.5 and sleeps like a dream. What saved us whilst in the thick of it was sleeping in separate rooms with one dealing with the baby one night and the other dealing with the baby the next. It meant that we got one decent night's sleep every other day each and we didn't have to listen to the screaming (which for us was worse than the sleep deprivation). You have my sympathies! Flowers

eggplant16 · 23/04/2024 21:30

I wasn't for a minute suggesting you have MH problems. I was wondering if the GP was aware of the severity of the screaming and how its affecting your family. If they see a smiley, happy baby, how can they know?

NorthernExpat · 23/04/2024 21:32

This sounds so so hard, and I have so much sympathy. On the worst day of my baby refusing to sleep I put her in her cot, went downstairs and started smashing plates one after another until my partner came and physically stopped me. So yes sorting out her sleep is important, but stopping you feeling the way you do right now has to be the priority.

I talked to my GP about me, not baby. Didn’t take her with me. Did a course of medication for anxiety which helped with some of the physical symptoms of extreme stress (which is what this is). Prioritised time outdoors in the daylight for me but might be something else for you. And headphones. I felt guilty about it, but sometimes the best I could do was lie next to her with my hand on her back while she cried, and it was better for me if I could listen to something to take the edge of.

None of that might be the thing that helps you, but you do deserve help, for you, not just for the baby. I hope you can get it.

Overthebow · 23/04/2024 21:35

crispyeggs · 23/04/2024 20:30

Weaning has been going well but it's not helped with sleep.

Routine is usually wake between 6/7, but this week uts been 4/5.

Feed on demand but roughly 5 x 7 oz bottles per day, plus a little veg based meal around 4/5pm. Yoghurt and avocado around 8/9.

Naps vary depending on when she wakes up but usually one around 9/10, one around 1/2 ad another around 3/4, no longer than 30 mins at a time.

Active every day, going to groups, laying and doing sensory. Long walks and local drives every day.

Bedtime starts at 6 - stories, hushed voice, low lights, warm bath gebtle songs, lavender massage, cuddle, pj's, white noise, red light, final bottle and bed between 6.30-7.30 depending how long she takes to go down.

Now she goes down and wakes within 20 minutes SCREAMIBG. Currently sat with her on me, asleep but disturbed, squirming, heart pacing, jerking a lot. Dr advised staggering xalpol and nurofen in case teething or ear ache but nothing worked- when she screamed tonight I did something I've never done before and put dancing fruits on and she immediately calmed and smiled, screamed like fuck again when it went off. Something is really wrong here isn't it? I'm absolutely on the edge

Have you tried not doing your whole bedtime routine? It sounds an awful lot and may have the wrong reaction for her? Keep it simple, bath, pjs, bottle, bed. You’ll get her into needing this long routine otherwise which won’t help for her going down for naps, and if she doesn’t nap she’ll be over tired and it won’t help her sleep at night.

bananasstink · 23/04/2024 21:37

There is a reason sleep deprivation is used as a form of torture. I completely sympathise. My 3rd baby was a nightmare sleeper, could be why she was the last. It does end. It may not feel like it now but it will. It's ok to walk away for a few minutes if you can't stand it for a second longer.
I don't know about allergies etc but I think everyone's advice re milk allergies are interesting and may be worth considering. Could you try her on different milk for a bit? If you are trying different things like that you may feel like you are working towards a solution and that may give you some strength?

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