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15 month old won't go to bed....ever

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donchafeellikecrying · 11/05/2022 21:04

his isnt our first rodeo in that we aren't first time parents....have an older child who admittedly didn't sleep through consistently or consistently in her own bed until almost age 5 but she was fine as long as not on her own But we have 15 month old twins now - boy and girl. Girl is fine just wants to fall asleep next to me and then will go in her cot. Yes can wake in the middle of the night and then comes in with us for a cuddle but does sleep But our boy.......he just doesn't want to go to sleep...ever. We have fallen in a trap of me doing his sisters bed time and DH taking him out in the car and driving until he's asleep and then putting him to bed. Because he just would scream for hours otherwise. BUT we can't carry on like that** as I'm worried how will ever he go to bed on his own (and it's costing a fortune in fuel!) - it was working fine for about 2 months but the last few nights he'll sleep for an hour or two and then be wide awake and just won't go back to sleep. We couldn't do cry it out etc before because he shares with his twin and the crying would wake her up and then we'd have 2 babies to settle and we both work full time and were literally going to work on a couple of hours sleep if we were lucky But now I'm thinking of trying it again but moving his sister downstairs to the sofa when she is asleep and then going for it? Does it actually work though? I've said to DH we need to commit to it and follow through for what could be several nights of crying I guess I'm just after tips and solidarity - sounds awful but we have to almost break his will when it comes to bed times. I've had 2 hours sleep in 48 hours and i have a very high pressured and challenging job and just need some more consistent sleep and not feel anxious when it comes to bed times Sorry for the rambling!

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Geranium1984 · 14/05/2022 06:50

Wooop fingers crossed for tonight!
I agree the nap needs to shift to the middle of their day. I'd try and push them to 10.30/11am for a 2hr nap. Then gradually shift it 10mins each week till you get to 12.

getsomehelp · 14/05/2022 07:16

Re not getting enough sleep, I agree, I found the more they slept, the more they slept.
I turned the cot upside down when ds started climbing out, is it illegal ?

donchafeellikecrying · 14/05/2022 08:50

@Geranium1984

Shifting naps isn't easy when they are at childcare - I do think whilst they might cat nap in the car while I drop their sister to before school childcare they don't then carry on sleeping once I do their drop off - they do get about 2.5 hr sleep at childcare and I don't think it's all in the morning so regularly they sleep until 12 I believe

Little twin has just had about 40 mins (both up at 5am) but boy twin is wide awake. I think he might sleep when we go to the shops around 10am

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LGBirmingham · 14/05/2022 09:39

OP apologies, someone might already have said this, the thread is too long to read it all!

Sounds like your boy twin is having split nights? Have you heard of these? I don't reckon sleep training would be any help for this. I think it's caused by a mismatch between circadian rhythm and sleep pressure from what I've read?

My ds has been doing these sometimes since he turned one. The main cause seems to be overtiredness from poor nursery naps resulting in a too early bedtime. It can mean him being awake for up to an hour and a half somewhere between 3am and 6am. It doesn't happen too often for us thankfully but it's happened to so many people I know with kids between 1 and 2 years old. One little girl is regularly up for 5hrs!

If this started with a nap drop I reckon it's overtiredness. You probably can't do much about it until he gets used to the new routine. It's like having jet lag for them I think?

LGBirmingham · 14/05/2022 09:44

You've perhaps already read it but there's this long thread on it here. Don't think I found answers but it was reassuring www.mumsnet.com/talk/sleep/4324992-split-nights-anyone-solved-this-pure-hell

donchafeellikecrying · 14/05/2022 18:53

@LGBirmingham

Split nights definitely sounds like boy twin!

Well this is 3rd night of refusing to taking him out in the car for his chauffeur driven sleep

Granted he is knackered! Up at 5am and then he fell asleep for about 2.5 hours until 1145. He's then been on the go all day in and out in the garden. Both his sisters ending Up having an afternoon nap (and me! Fell sleep and woke to him just chilling on the floor watching a film 🤦🏻‍♀️)

Had to start bedtime at 6 as he was shattered - bath - only because he had sun lotion on. He's now asleep after a bit of faffing in his cot so 45 mins

Girl twin still awake but quiet

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sunshine298 · 15/05/2022 21:03

How was this evening @donchafeellikecrying?

donchafeellikecrying · 15/05/2022 21:16

@sunshine298

Not too bad! 🥳 didn't do a bath - managed to free them from their big sister at 6pm who had been playing chase with them so they were really really amped up. Both napped this morning around 830-10am but boy twin had a 10 mins cat nap whilst I was making dinner at 430 - he went and hid and fell asleep took me ages to wake him and he was in a foul mood about it 😂 only had to listen to one 45mins Tonie and little girl twin asleep and boy twin faffed a bit longer but both asleep in an hour . So 4 nights in a row no driving which worked out that's probably saved us about £20 in petrol!
Have To say I'm really surprised - I'm
Not doing Ferber and sort of doing that disappearing chair/pick up put down as much as I can - 8-13 weeks ago when this mess first started little boy twin absolutely fought it for hours but the last 3 nights he's barely cried? I'm wondering if he's lulling me into a false sense of security 😂

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