SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 8 -- Pack the bags under your eyes and join us!

[RoRoMommy]

Well...I had to think of something! DH's suggestion "Eyes wide shut--the art of sleepwalking"

ok ladies, i really do have a bone to pick with you.....3 pages in 24hours??! really....come on we've got kids to look after lol. DF keeps saying at least i'm teaching noah how to use a computer!lol not been on much as had valuations yesterday which were all really surprising, we went to bank this morning, which again was surprising (all in good way) we went on the market at 2pm this afternoon....fingers corssed. we're gonig to look at 2 tomorrow, absokutely love one already not that good, well not sure! we'll see.

last was fab, bed at 8, after gonig shopping, awake at 3 for dummy and cuddle, woke for day at 7 def put him to bed later me thinks

sorry not got a chance to take notes today so for fab bights for good nights and for not so good

Well done Chibi

bealcain, yay what a good night!

i agree, i was shocked at all the posts this morning

how can i get ds to change back to waking only once /twice a night ..hoping its a growth spurt ..every hour or two every night for last two weeks aaaggh!! and hes ravenous when he wakes but falls asleep after 10-15 mins. that should be enough time shouldnt it..hes a real guzzler and will demolish a bottle in 5 mins..no joke and hes only 11 weeks and yesterday managed to get through a bottle .. 8 oz of expressed milk!! he was a big baby nearly 11 lbs at birth and now around 16 lbs!! do you think hes just too hungry all the time..any ideas please!!!1

Bambi: how much is he feeding during the day? Can he concentrate on daytime feeds or is he easily distractable? He may be filling up at night instead. If you thing this is it, you can try feeding in a quiet and darkened place if possible as it might help...

might be growth spurt around this time bambi. it's so tough, but hang in there.

he ll feed well during the day but does get colic/poss reflux as he screams sometimes when hes feeding..feeds for longer during the day as well, as usually falls asleep after 10 mins on me during night but like i said he can down a bottle very quickly so i doubt he s not getting much from me in time wise..

Hi! Missed you guys today. I wrote a message to everyone, and sadly it was deleted when my internet crashed at work. It was so disappointing! I guess, to sum up, you're fab mummies, and that there were so many good nights, and to chibi, good job! and to the grizzles from teeth, and the snotty noses (mums and DSs) and...well, I miss you.

We had date night tonight and it was lovely. It's so nice to go back to before baby, but still come home to baby (who is sleeping peacefully in bed at the moment). My dad is coming to visit from California on Sunday, so we're looking at a manic week next week. Plus Thanksgiving dinner on Thursday...but I'm looking forward to two days off at the end of next week, hooray!

DS has cut the last two of the four teeth he's getting, so hopefully things will improve in the next few nights, but now it's the weekend so I am really looking forward to the quality time with DS. I've missed him so!

Bambi, your LO sounds like mine--he ate constantly during that time. I was on maternity leave, so it was okay at the time. The growth spurts are overwhelming but they do pass. It's amazing how these difficult periods feel so intense, but then it does get easier and you look back and they don't seem so bad. I guess that's why we keep having kids!

Watching wife swap with DH. I love my DH!
xxx(((hugs)))

Bsmbi, remember that they take more from the boob more efficiently than the bottle, so he might be getting more than you think. DS drinks fast these days, well, if he's not distracted by...well, everything.

Another improved night for us - longest stretch 11-2 . DS didn;t manage to get to bed until nearly 10 though (he had 2 long naps during the day). I'd just got him to sleep at about 8 and tiptoed through to get a glass of wine only to hear a thump behind me - there was DS pushing open the door and looking affronted! He's now found a pack of makeup brushes and is combing stuff with them. Hope there were some other good nights out there

Speaking of all the activity on here, we do have a blog you know

EP your ds has so much character he makes me laugh.
Another good night for us 8-7

I apologise now for lack of posts on the blog. will try to put something on this week

wrote a long post and dd deleted it, grrrrrrrrr

chibi so, so pleased for you. youre a great mummy doing a grand job xx

EP - for another step int ejhb n rightn directiojn. great stuff!! will kic=k self up \arse later, i promise p

roro glasd tyou enjoyred yur date. it makes all the difrtece to me tpo bve able to gp out witr dp sans lo's

tam great stuff"!!!

well, dd was a little restless, but no real wAKuops
bed at 7.;30p,m
woken by dpa t 5.30am going off to do asome work for friends poor dp
bf at 5.45ama nd up for day

sorry for typing, dd is 'hel;inng' me [h,mm],l

wrote a long post and dd deleted it, grrrrrrrrr

chibi so, so pleased for you. youre a great mummy doing a grand job xx

EP - for another step int ejhb n rightn directiojn. great stuff!! will kic=k self up \arse later, i promise p

roro glasd tyou enjoyred yur date. it makes all the difrtece to me tpo bve able to gp out witr dp sans lo's

tam great stuff"!!!

well, dd was a little restless, but no real wAKuops
bed at 7.;30p,m
woken by dpa t 5.30am going off to do asome work for friends poor dp
bf at 5.45ama nd up for day

sorry for typing, dd is 'hel;inng' me [h,mm],l

Good nights by the sounds of things, and RoRo, a date, I'm ! Bambi, I second the advice that he's probably getting a surprising amount in a short time ... at that age my DS averaged 1lb a week despite rarely feeding for even 10 minutes during the day!

Good night here, had undisturbed spell between 1 and 4 - he was biding his time to present me with a full-clothing-change-necessitating-poo. BTW ginger, at your DP, mine's the same ... don't they hear it?!

Morning all and for the good stretches.

We have already been to the hospital and back this morning, as DS was sounding wheezy again when he woke up. Luckily they checked him over and said he was fine, just the bronchiolitis running its course. He has been dosed with Nurofen for a slight temp and put back to bed. I feel surprisingly well-rested considering I had him coughing next to me in bed all night, had forgotten how good full-time co-sleeping is for catching up on rest!

The bad news is that DH has a cold and I think I'm coming down with it too. I can't afford to be ill with my sickly boys to look after!

Hi ladies I have been watching your threads with interest. I am on dd2 who is now 14 months.

I am not sure if I posted this before but my dd1 just suddenly slept through at 19 months. I did nothing to encourage her to sleep through just stuck her in her cot (asleep on the boob) then she would come in beside me from whenever she woke up after I went to bed (and BF throughout the night given half a chance lol)

DD2 is waking twice I think (not sure) and I have every confidence that she too will sleep through soon.

I did find though that once I stopped thinking about dd1's sleep and just accepted it I miraculously felt better rested no idea how that worked .

Oh that and lying about it to people who like to criticise , tell you what to do, boast about their babies who have been sleeping through since 2 minutes old made a huge difference .

Wishing you all decent stretches of sleep!

icarus thank you for your support. it's exactly what we all needed to hear.my ds is sleeping through the night (but we co-sleep) and he did it on his own at around 20 months too. when we move house we'll attempt the next stage of getting him into his own bed!
I should really leave this thread but i've been here for 9 months and can't bare to leave....how sad!

Hello everyone

I'm glad to hear that some of you are getting sleep!!

DS2 is cutting his first tooth (teeth?). He is still waking every 2/3 hours and last night he was awake betwen 3-4.30. So I am not feeling too happy today .

BTW have found a nice website called Askdrsears. He had 8 children and the 4th was v.demanding so he seems to know what he's talking about. I looked at it a bit last night. I thought some of you might find it helpful.

Sorry I still can't figure out how to do links. I am totally inept!!

CSB there is an interesting section on high need babies and sleep.

Love you all.

Tam don't you dare go!

CM dr sears is a well used tool on SIFTW.

Have seen him on dr phil too and he seems so balanced and reasonable. trust your own instincts and every child is different seem to be the key to his beliefs. makes sense to me!

Meant to say, thanks Icarus for that lovely post. It's really cool that you and Tam have had success and gives me hope that my lazy gentle method of night parenting will eventually bear fruit.

I love Dr Sears too!

i think i hate dr sears!!
am i the only one. i loved him when i was pregnant, but when i had a baby i found him super dogmatic and it made me a bit depressed that i was really struggling with adhering to his must wear baby, must co-sleep, must be available 24 hours a day, must feed feed feed, must be perfect.
i don't know, maybe it was just the way i interpreted it ...

anyhoo, i really like his ideas, but i feel that it needs to be a balance between baby and parents in a way.

I know what you mean about Dr Sears Amber, my heart did sink a little at the idea that I had to start doing all the things I have been resisting up until now. Especially co-sleeping. I have discovered that I need my space in my bed and that if I co-sleep I end up with really bad back ache. Also it disturbs DS2 if I have to get up to one of the other DCs.

It was just nice to read about a method that acknowledged that some babies are more demanding than others.

Amber I agree, I love Dr Sear but in a perfect world. Unfortunately mine isn't perfect and I don't have quite the same level of patience or mother earth in me as he does. Howvever if I start to worry about the whole co-sleeping thing I take a peek at his site and it makes me feel better.

EP, What an improvement. Love the makeup brush incident. Little monkey.

Bambi, your lo is still very tiny. Don't put yourself under too much pressure, it's perfectly natural for him to be waking frequently to feed. The frequency will change when he's having a growth spurt but will settle back again. If you're bf'ing can you co-sleep for a few days to get some rest?

Icarus, thanks for your words. I know it'll happen one day and these days I don't worry too much about it unless it's been a particularly tough night.

I think we had a good night but I was hauled up on my own ill again. Felt absolutely hideous all day today. DH's been a true champion and taken over everything and nursing me. Here's for an improvement tonight. I hate being ill.

RRM, lovely words, glad things are looking brighter