SLEEP IS FOR THE WEEK part 7 -- prop your eyes open with matchsticks here

[MegBusset]

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Well, DS def has a cold - hot, whiny and coughing a lot. Not sure if it's a proper cold or a reaction to his last jabs. He also managed to fall out of bed again earlier on - we'd taken thebed raiil own as he clambering up it, but then he rolled off . He's off again - DH trying to settle but I think I may be needed!

CM: I think 4-5 mo is a rough time hormonally as well as sleep-wise: I certainly felt dreadful as far as I remember. Something to do with your baby not being a tiny baby but still needing a lot of care, maybe. Do you have someone who can take over occasionally and give you a bit of a break?

I hate chatty hairdressers as well . We're an antisocial bunch!

missed you all

hope there are some good nights out there.

ds took an hour to settle tonight so not sure what that means for our night ahead.

amber i'd love one of your massages. I see the centre is in paddington. love that part of sydney. my friend has just bought one of those 3 storey tall balcony type houses. am very

Ginger not ready to go
i'll need you all in a few months when we're trying to wean ds into his own bed. am tempted to co-sleep forever to avoid the trauma
also even though ds is sleeping so well i still feel like i'm doing something 'wrong' (i blame the seed of self doubt sown by early reading of baby books) because we co-sleep and stay with him until he's asleep. it's a long way from self settling in his own room isn't it!

meg ditto on hairdressers talking too much. luckily mine chats at the beginning and then goes very quiet while she concentrates. Plus she's very funny so usually makes me laugh at something or other she's been up to!

x post EP. hope ds ok. luckily ds seems to go into a very deep sleep at the start of the night so when i get out i prop a pillow in behind him. usually when i go to bed he's still in the same position he went to sleep in.

ds's temp etc could be reaction to jabs. ds didn't react to any of the jabs except the mumps single vaccine which knocked him out with fever etc for 2 days.

oh and all the jabs cocked up his sleep on day 8-14

hope he settles for you and you all get some rest tonight

hope ds better soon ep.

tam, you are doing fab. who cares if he doesn't settle himself. he sleeps so well - success!

Just went in to check on them as it had gone a bit quiet - DH and DS both fast asleep

morning all

good night here
stayed in cot until 12 (dh puts him in cot if he's the one putting him to bed)

woke at 7.30 for day

hello, we did okay. few wakings in the early evening before i went to bed. then 1.00 and 4. up at 6.45.

morning all- a good night at casa chibi. We gave up on gradual retreat - lo has a cold + if anything was waking up more often + waking up screaming. Co-slept last night and all was well. We may give it a whirl again when she's a bit older, now I feel our 1st priority is dealing with the sleep deficit -- ours that is

Hi and much love to charliemama, you are in a similar situation as me, but with 2 other lo's on top, you are one amazing mum for keeping it all together. I feel doolally with just the one! Hope you had a better night

Hello again. My lo tried new trick last night of settling with a feed and then crying in discomfort within half an hour of settling! It would be nice if things sometimes showed signs of improving instead of getting gradually worse!!!

I am taking him to see a CO today as alst resort. I am trying to not be too optimistic as I know I will feel really bad if it doesn't work out. But I feel I have to at least try. (Mind you it is costing s fortune and dh is not happy!!)

Thanks again for all the support it is nice to know people are out there who understand. Mind you I am trying not to obsess about sleep as there is so much more to my life then how much sleep I am or am not getting and I don't want it to cloud my feelings towards my ds. I am currantly working on trying to accept the situation and stop comparing my life with everyone elses. (Especially friends with impeccably behaved babies!!!)

Just reread last post many apologies for awful typing skills (or lack of!!!)

cm wise words. there is so much more to life than worrying about sleep (easier said than done though obviously) i have said before sometimes i think mn has been my saviour and a curse as without it i don't think i would have thought/obsessed about sleep so much ifkwim but then without you all i might have gone slowly insane thinking i was the only one with a non-sleeping baby!

chibi glad you had better night

amber sound sliek ds might be on the road back to his 1 or no wakings. fingers crossed for you

charliemama, i hope the CO can help even a little. it sounds like you have a really sensible/positive approach to it all though. it is often just a matter of wading through the bad bits and then enjoying the good bits.

Morning all, and for good/OK nights.

Amber glad yours wasn't too bad.

Charlie I was with you on the crap night last night... up 11, 1, 3, 4 (fed), 6.15 and in bed with us as I was too tired to try to get him back in the cot, where he slept til 7.45.

I wonder if he is having a growth spurt, as he took massive feeds at 4 and 6.15 and again when he got up, despite having actually eaten quite a lot of solid food yesterday.

Also it was cold in his room -- has anyone used a sheepskin with their LO? Just wondering if it's worth a try and where to get one...

meg ds has a sheepskin (it was blue)from blooming marvellous but having checked their website it looks like they don't do it anymore. there are LOTS of places on the internet you can get them. it def helped ds 6-12 months then he started sleeping with us more and more so it got relegated to the floor of his play pen!

cambridge baby?

babybsafe

Was it one like this?

morning all

hi ginger, would love to meet up with you all, just not too sure about the logistics of it all been meaning to ask, how is dds eczema now?

tam for your night. i wouldnt worry about self settling myself. i used to get into his bed with ds until he went to sleep, then crept out. as you know, he slept like a dream. occasionally, i'd say that i just had to pop downstairs to get a drink or whatever, 9 times out of 10, when i went to check on him, he was asleep.

amber glad for your improvement my darling you'll soon be back to 1 waking i'm sure x

meggy for your night. dd insists on kicking off all blankets, so i wonder sometimes if she wakes from being cold. time to get a new sleeping bag thingy or bring out the jummys!! ds could be having a growth spurt, seem to remember dd having one about that time

CM good for you, helps to have a positive attitude for sure!! good luck with the CO

chibi - good on you, glad you had a good night as a result of co sleeping. i am a big supporter of GR, but an even bigger supporter of co sleeping

EP - hope ds ok. bless dh and ds, fast asleep, hope they stayed that way!!

our night ok, we had the evening back!!
was unsettled between 11.30ish and 1am
fed at 1am
fed at 6.15am
lay in til 8.40am whoooooooo hoooooooo

think dd has german measles as she has a rash, but shes ok in herself, so not too worried. shes got her MMR coming at the beginning of Nov [anxious mama emoticon]

john lewis

FSID advice says not to use them once babies can roll onto their front, though...

didn't know that meg! ds could roll from very early age.oops!

clearly he's fine. i think it can be over the top sometimes. ds will sometimes sleep on top of our quilt face down now,which is prob not that safe, but he's okay. i'mquite sure he'd wake himself up if he had any troble breathing, we all know he's not exactly a deep sleeper!

Well, given his age and that there are no other risk factors for SIDS I'm sure it'd be fine, it's just that I know I can be the world's biggest worrier

It's just that since I took off the cot bumpers his cot looks so bare and uninviting, I'm sure at 6am on a cold night it doesn't help him stay asleep...

meg i have a single cotton blend duvet in a white duvet cover folded over in the base of ds's cot and then the sheepskin lay on top of it! how may rules does that break