SLEEP IS FOR THE WEEK part 7 -- prop your eyes open with matchsticks here

[MegBusset]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz...

i figure the universe owes me a sleeper next time round!

CM - too true, theyre all unique, for sure .....re. the CC, you just gotta do what works for you, i just know it isnt for me. no judgements on anyone who wants to give it a whirl tho

amber - a sleeper next time for sure

meggy - am miles away in herefordshire.... will have to become brave first and prepare for leaving dd overnight with dp lol at sendin next one back if another non sleeper.

Blimey there's a,ot to catch up on in the 8or so hours since i last posted...i think we all musy be lying about having these DC if we can get enough time on here lol

my new sling came today

cant give too much info on newborns as only started bw with ds2 at 2months. the ring sling was great once he had head control, but they're great for nb too, i held my friends in it the other day, wraps are really versatile! well they all are. if ppl wna see pics let me no and i'l post some!

Amber were they chip shop chips or oven chips???

Meg - so glad that LO is ok.

CM it is a relief to hear that self-settling is not necessarily the answer, I've been chasing that particular holy grail for months now.

This does mean that we are stuck with crappy sleep until we're not. oh bum.

bealcain, ep and i were at lunch at giraffe yesterday and our falafel burgers came with a side of chips which the LOs were rather partial to!

chibi, my LO can settle himself to sleep in the evening and for naps as long as he's not overtired, but it means bugger all in the middle of the night. sorry. "we are stuck with crappy sleep until we're not" is a brilliant statement.

we are stuck with crappy sleep until we're not
absolutely brilliant chibi, must remember that one!!!

amber your friend with the comments about ds needing to be left with others and controlled sleeping had me tapping my foot in annoyance!

meg the party was great. friend has one every year for halloween. puts cobwebs everywhere, smoke, spooky music the works! ds bit unsure at first but after spotting the array of choc and sweets on the table was strangely happy!
cried during the fireworks though the big girl

Took DS to doc's this afternoon as he started projectile vomiting (nice) and still v unhappy. My GP is a bit old-fashioned (dug a jar of ancient-looking dolly mixtures out of his desk and plonked one in LO's mouth) but very good with babies and reassured us that it's just an ear/throat infection that should clear up within a week. He gave us some antibiotics but I'm a bit about using them unless totally necessary, think I will start a thread on it in Health actually.

Anyway DS was totally exhausted by the time we got home so put him to bed early at 6.30, though he did another huge vom as I laid him down so had to strip the mattress and him off. He's eaten practically nothing all day so have a feeling I might be doing a few night feeds to make up for it...

Anyway hope everyone is having a nice evening, we've ordered pizza and going to watch EastEnders

meg poor ds. I find it so stressful/ worrying when ds isn't well. Think with your first child you always worry more.
don't worry about him not eating as long as his bf'ing ok. How good too that he's getting all that immune boosting milk from you.

I hated ds having antibiotics for his tonsillitis but sometimes it's the only way to clear up a bacterial infection. I gave ds a small spoonful of acidophilus in his juice to put back the good bacteria.

enjoy your pizza and hope ds sleeps

Well Tibsy we all know that's nonsense. I love that other people have all the answers. One day they'll be paid back with a non sleeping, non obliging baby.

Tibsy, I thought you were in Hertfordshire hence why I wondered if you'd be up for the London meet up. Doh

Meg, I love your description of the Dr. Much as I might have gone if he'd done it to mine, it sounds so sweet.

Her teeth (one behind the eye tooth) is coming through outside edge first I think. I noticed she had a bit of blood in the drool today. It was streaked on her face after she spent most of the day with her hands in her mouth so it must be very sore. We had a pretty grizzly day but this evening she was lovely. Giving us and her teddy kisses. She's also taken to hugging and patting us on the back. It's so sweet.

EP, don't know if you got any in the end but I bought those waterproof overtrousers from tchibo and they're brilliant. fleece lined and only £6. We've been pottering about in the garden in them today.

Meg for DS. Here's for an improvement overnight poor little fella.

Oh, no, Meg! Poor DS. I hope he's feeling better in the morning.

DS slept for FOUR HOURS in the day today. I wished I could have slept for that amount of time instead of being at the stupid conference where they put me in someone's office to pump, then in an unsecured conference room where someone (of course) walked in on me with my, erm, pinatas out in full view.

That poor guy. I think he'll be swearing off boobs for at least a week. Trying not to feel sorry for myself.

Hoping DS will sleep beyond 4:30am, but you all might see me here when you wake up...here's hoping not. DH said he'd wake up with DS after 5am, so I am going to keep my boob in that kid's mouth from 4am on, I think.

Oh, one more thing...LONDON MEET UP?!?!?! Count me in! Details, please? I am in Bethnal Green.

please someone post with some SIFTW advice! I have nothing left to give today but surely cc with a 19week old baby can't be the answer
link

x post ginger. knew i could rely on your old gal

Tam, funnily enough I was just on that thread and glossed over the cc suggestion although was tempted to tackle it. I suggested co-sleeping.

i know ginger. i'm pretty open about the fact that it's not for us but i accept for some older children it gives results (although i don't ever want ds to learn the 'lesson' no-one come when he cries ) but for a 19 week old baby. heaven above.
makes me very sad.

Agree Tam, I get quite upset at the thought of these babies being left to cry at such a young age perhaps feeling lonely and scared. I'm probably being pathetic but it actually plays on my mind even when I've turned the computer off. DH always asks why I bother getting involved because he knows it upsets me.

Good morning, Ladies.

I tried the boob, no avail. I tried rocking him in the chair, no luck. I tried putting him gingerly back into bed, and he just lay there blowing raspberries.

It was ten to five, so I said, Honey, I'll go change his nappy then you can take him (like he promised last night). He complained that this meant every day this week (not yesterday, though), and he has to take him tomorrow, too (I do the nights, he does the weekend mornings so I can lie in). Then he said that he'd told me he'd do it if I "needed" him to.

Right.

So, here we are, DS and me in the kitchen. He's got his rice cake, I've got my bran cereal.

Ginger, what's this about a London meet-up?

Morning

RoRo: we were thinking of trying to meet up before Xmas: Amber suggested Coram Fields. I'm in Hackney so not far from you . Sympathies on the expressing: I ihad this twice in one day when using the first-aid room to express: once from the faciliites manager, then from the person he sent to give me a notice to put on the door! After that, I had a laminated thingy to hang on the doorknob saying room in use please knock - could you do something similar the next time you have to go away? Thankfully I've now given up on daytime feeds for the most part so no more expressing

Meg: how's DS this morning? Sounds like a nasty bug: the antibiotics might clear it up quickly.

Well, we had another better night - asleep by 8, woke at 9 and (briefly) at 10, then awake at 2 and 5 . Don;t feel much more rested though as I slept more deeply - grrr. If this carries on for a while it should help though!

Grrrr at your DH RoRo. Mine is the same: he says he'll get up if I ask, then if I do he mutters and grumbles until it's easier to do it myself!

EP - agree about DF! men grrrrr

Meg - sorry to hear about LO again, if you're worried about the AB if you take natural yoghurt yuorself and are feeding him he'll get all the good stuff from that and it will help the levels of biotics in your milk! doesn't matter what flavour either!

RoRo - we have same deal re: me doing nigts and then getting w/e layins, except for the last few weeks he's been working 7days a week!!!! so hopefully i'll get one sunday!

i'm now feeling really left out....i want to meet up!!! i could technically come to London one as i'm in kent but i want one near me lol

our night was ok again tonight.
down at 7,
awake at 1 for cuddle
awake at 4 for feed
day started at 6:30

but ds1 still waking between 3 and 4:30...bugger!

morning lovelies

meggy poor poor lo. i hope he managed to rest up last night and makes a speedy recovery. (((hugs)))

ginger - i wish i was closer, would def come

roro grrrrrrrr for your dh my lovely, bloody bugger ...it is frustrating tho and unfair. never promise what you cant fulfil i say

EP for your night, that sounds great. you dont feel rested for it tho

Beal for improvements with ds2, but for ds1's early starts. is he wanting to play at that time or is he just restless?

our night was good although she took longer to settle to sleep and i missed the start of 'enders
bed at 7.45pm
woke at 1.30am, didnt want bottle so cuddled back to sleep. no crying
fed at 5am
up at 7am

hope there were some similarly good uns out there

not overly sure. he's really crying and calling out for me. wouldn't have thought it could be a recurring nm at exactly same time every night. i go in give him a cuddle and then he falls back to sleep after a while. but wierd, think its just clocks. he used to wake at 5:30 for day but now not

Good morning.

Sympathies for Roro and Beal for such hideously early starts. I am so not a morning person and consider it still night if it's before 7. Unfortunately los do not always agree!!

Re. cc I'm wondering if a have made some SIFTW faux pas mentioning that I used it with ds1. I would like to clarify that I only ever left him for 6 minutes. I will always go and see my dcs if they cry in the night. I was desperate at the time and I wouldn't use it on a young baby. (Don't mean that to sound huffy).

Ds2 remains v.unsettled day and night. I am waiting for my gp to come off sick leave and then I'm hoping she'll refer him. Something is definately not right. Last night he went to bed at 6.30, woke at 9.30, 11, 2, and then at 5 he was really uncomfortable. I tried everything. Co-sleeping didn't work, he just wriggled and cried on me! . It is really starting to drag me down that I can't help him.

for Tibsy and EP hope the good 'uns continue.

charlie for poor ds2 and you. its just so hard when theres nothing you can do. hurry back gp i say!!
not a siftw faux pas at all my lovely. we're all individuals and as such have individual ideas and 'methods'
we have had several siftw ers use CC and theyre no longer with us due to the fact that their babies now sleep
you'll get nothing but support and understanding from us all whatever you decide to do/have done. at the end of the day, we all understand what a hard job this parenting lark can be and although some things arent for me personally, whatever gets you through i say
(((hugs)))