SLEEP IS FOR THE WEEK part 7 -- prop your eyes open with matchsticks here

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thanks very much I must change my name now that halloween is over. Gecko is a 1 hourly, sometimes 2 night feeder and seems to struggle ALOT with gripey tummy pains during the night. I bf her whenever she wakes and am starting to worry that she'll never stop feeding all through the night if I keep feeding her whenever she wakes. I haven' decided to do anything about it yet so I jst don't get any sleep at the mo

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oh no, that's really harsh. how old is your LO?

for you unholy! what have you tried so far? do you co-sleep?

she is 9 months and she goes to sleep either feeding or just being held ( I know bad habits, but I have NO IDEA how to sort that) then she goes into her cot and then when she wakes I bring her into my bed and she stays with me till morning. I enjoy sleeping with her and think it would be harder if I was trying to keep her out of my bed but maybe its making it worse

Morning all. Hello to unholy.

Meg I hope you and lo got some sleep/rest last night and that you both feel better today. I can't imagine how scary it must have been for you and I am glad that it was nothing serious. Fingers crossed that today is a better day.

Congrats Amber you must be feeling really chuffed. I'm like you Beal I always feel worse when I've had MORE sleep! In the days before ds2 I used to begrudge getting up at 7 and hope the los stayed in bed longer! Oh how the mighty have fallen!

Beal you truly are the queen of slings . Have you considered starting up a support group for your obsession (only joking emoticon). Thankyou for the advice I will endeavour to sort something out asap.

Thankyou Ginger the idea of hiring a sling hadn't occurred to me I will look into that to.

Well we had a crappyola day and night which seems to be becoming the norm. Ds2 was unsettled all day yesterday (apart from an unusually long nap which I couldn't take advantage of because I kept thinking he'd wake up soon!!!) and then was difficult to get to sleep. When he was eventual asleep dd started playing up and getting out of her bed!! Ds2 starting waking every 2 hours reducing through the night. At 6 ds1 wet the bed and that keffufle woke ds2 for the morning.

Unholy I too am at a bit of a loss as to what to do. With ds1 the problem was definitly getting him to settle himself to sleep. I did cc at 11 months by leaving him for 1 minute initially and then doubling the time until he was asleep. I only ever had to leave him for 6 minutes (on the first night: 1 minute, 2 minutes 4 minutes and then the 4th time he fell asleep after 6). I think it took 3 nights before he was happy to be left in his cot awake to settle himself. On the whole he's been a really good sleeper since then apart from the odd blip. I realise I was lucky that cc was so easy and tbh even those short minutes of crying felt awful at the time.

Sorry appear to have written a novel I hope none of you fall asleep reading it!

morning all!!! meg for dash to l'hopital, but that its not more sinister. must be reassuring. hope he gets better super soon

amber for your night lovely. more of those little man!

beal, sounds like a better night, nut for ds1's 4.30 wake up

charlie poor you. hope you manage to get some rest today lovely

a big welcome to unholy i 've only just started cutting back on all night feeds myself and dd is 14 mths. i just came to it gradually and it seems to have spaced out in the last couple of months. i did try on and off before, but didnt seem to be able to stick to it you'll get plenty of support here

Yes, yes, early morning for us. DS hasn't gone back with the clocks yet. Any advice on that?

Unholy, I don't think those are bad habits necessarily. As long as she's going to sleep happy, then she's developing positive associations with sleep, and eventually she'll be able to get there on her own. I know eventually might seem like eternity, but the alternative is to let them cry it out, or some such arrangement, and that, to me, is not a solution at all.

Amber I am SO jealous! I haven't had that much sleep since well before DS was BORN! God, I would love that. Or, I might just lapse into a coma during hour six because my body wouldn't know what to do with it.

oh.... and our night was good, dosed dd up with medised before i went out (her teeth are playing up again ) bed at 7.30pm fed at 2.30am (bottle) up at 6.30am

charlie, just a thought, is there anyone you can call to watch lo when he naps, so that you can go and have a sleep and not worry about having to tend to him when he wakes?

roro - that was an early start funnily enough, the clocks havent affected dd, miracle of miracles. hope lo gets back into the time groove soon

Morning all, busy these days innit?

Hi TrinityRhino, have we 'met' before playing iSketch or am I imagining it?

Amber for your night, glad your blip seems to be passing.

Charlie what a 'mare for you. DS can self-settle (and does at the start of the night) but still wakes anyway

RoRo at your early start. My LO is 8 months old and super-wriggly (at least when he's not ill).

Tibs for your night.

Beal glad yours wasn't too awful.

DS was still up at 7.15 this morning despite not going to bed til 11.30, had hoped for a small lie-in at least! Anyway he is still poorly, but the rash has gone , have dosed with Nurofen and he's back in bed now.

Meg: glad DS is better now. The rash sounds terrifying, and not helped by a long wait in A&E. I think I wuld have been bawling the place down,never mind DS!

Amber: woweee!

Hi TrinityRhino, you're very welcome to join us. We don't have any easy answers (sometimes I don't think I have any answers at all) but we've been through it ourselves: DS is nearly 13 months and usually wakes every couple of hours or so at night. I feed/cuddle him to sleep in our bed, lower gingerly into cot, then he comes in with us later on in the night. FWIW, Tamdin does the same and her DS has started sleeping through more or less ( but he is a bit older). I honestly don't think that 'bad' sleep habits have much of an effect on babies who are problem sleepers anyway. Spent a LOT of time worrying about it and trying to do the right thing in the early months and have now given up! On the bright side, DS is a cheerful baby (most of the time) so we can;t be doing much wrong. Oh and 9 months is classic sleep regression time:

moxie.blogs.com/askmoxie/2006/02/qa_what_are_sle.html

DS's sleep def went (more) up the spout at that time. Have you had any joy with the gp re the digestive problems?

Right, down to our night: asleep by 8, awake 9:15 and would not go bacl to sleep, took him to bed with me at about 11, slept till 2ish (long waking) but not much else until about 6:30! He may have fed in between times but I certainly didn't wake up properly . I am crediting Amber's class - we had a lovely time, although DS showed me up by refusing to eat anything but bread and chips for his lunch . I think the DSs enjoyed themsleves as well

Beal: I have a didymos which is great but I don't use it enough! DS a bit big for the front carry position but loves being on my back - he bounces up and down and chuckles. I would scond the recommendation of a wrap sling as they are really versatile.

bread and chips is a fine lunch indeed!

Lots of posts, see if my memory is working still.

Beal, sorry meant Charlie's other thread. Out of interest, what sling did you find best with a newborn? No I don't want any rumours to start but next time (if there is one) I'd like to use a sling a bit more in the early days.

Meg, we had a viral rash too. It's scary isn't it? Hope he's better soon.

Amber well done, you've had a really rotten time recently so you deserve it.

Morning Tibsy and EP

Welcome TrinityRino. You do pretty much what we do (I've tried all sorts of 'sleep training' bar CC but it's not made a great deal of difference. What has helped is age. The older she gets (14 months) the better she becomes.

Ahh, can't remember anything else. Sorry if I've missed anyone. Think I'm getting DD's cold. Nursery has had to shut today thanks to a burglary and vandalism. nice. so I'm at home. That pesky molar is so close to the surface. Tibs, and EP how did yours emerge? This looks like its going to break through the side of the gum!

ginger - they looked pretty scary to me, looked like they were ripping their way thru (very painful i reckon) dd has just got the 4 corners of each atm, still waiting for rest to come thru

i had 3, count 'em 3 people tell me yesterday that dd wasnt sleeping thru cos i'm still bfing and that she wont sleep until i give up .....these are friends of mine gawd love 'em!!!!

ginger at burglary and vandalism at nursery, but for day at home!!

Ignore them Tibs. Nod and smile

Ginger: DS has one side of each tooth coming through if that makes sense. That or they are the eye teeth and he has a huge gap . No sign of any more as yet, but the gums around are v hard and lumpy.

hello all. so many posts!

welcome trinity. gecko is very lucky to have you

Tibs well done dd and how was you tapas and girls night?

EP for 2-6.30 block of sleep. agree with amber chips and bread is a fine lunch indeed!

amber for your night. he's getting back into the swing of it.

ginger for dd's nursery vandalism but like tibs hope you're enjoying your bonus day off together

meg for ds. must have been very stressful. hope he's on te mend today.

Hi RoRo. ds also been affected by clocks. not complaining as he's been waking 6.30-7 but before that was 7.30-8 which was lovely!

CM poor you. what a night. hope ds is a bit more settled today. chin up. it will not be forever. keep telling yourself that. hard i know!

Bealcain for ds2 he did very well last night but for ds1's 4.30 wake up.

Have i missed anyone?

our night was good
halloween party so late to bed
bed at 9.30 ( in our bed)
woke at 7.45 for day :

EP - the one friend also said i should do CC i explained that i'm too much of a wimp for that, so is dp and so is ds.... we dont do crying in the tibsy house

hi tam and for your night lovely. your little man is doing brilliantly. sounds like hes got a reprieve from those blessed tonsils too tapas with the girlies was lovely ta!! we set the world to rights and then some felt a little 'muggy' this a.m after the 3 glasses of red wine!!....we're thinking of a girlie weekend to brighton next

Tibsy isn't funny how everyone has an opinion on your baby. I always think well have them for a week!

Very gentle cc did work for ds1 and by then I was desperate as he was waking for 2 hours every night i was working and pregnant with dd. But it is very much a personal choice and doesn't even work 100% of the time. I was lucky that it was relatively painless.

DD was bf, never had to cc and she slept through from 6 months.

My niece was bf, co-slept until about 2 yrs and slept through from 6 months!

Ds2 settles himself to sleep and wakes every 2 hours.

Go figure!

Sorry meant to address that last post top you aswell EP!

Am thinking if I had stopped at DD would I be now one of those smug parents who thinks they have all the answers? I hope not. But ds2 has challenged my belief the key is settling themselves to sleep! The thing is he won't feed to sleep and isn't particularly happy in with me anyway.

Kids eh. Wh'd have 'em!!

i also get mad at the non-parents that know it all. was told yesterday that i should leave ds with others as he needs to 'learn' that is is safe to be with others and without mama.
and also that 'controlled sleeping' would solve all our sleeping problems. controlled sleeping? oh, you mean controlled crying surely... and would you like to come over for the nights we do it, ye who cannot deal with less than 9 hours sleeep a night ...

EP and Amber your bread & chips lunch sounds great!

Ginger at vandalism, what kind of twunt would vandalise a nursery fgs? Hope you're having a nice day though and staving that cold off

Tam for your night, how was the party?

Tibs, girlie weekend in Brighton sounds great. Remind me where you live again? (Crap memory )

Charlie, if we are ever brave/foolish enough to try for another one, I want a sleeper next time or I'm sending it back