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Planning to night wean - please share your experiences and advice with me

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Dillybear · 11/10/2020 11:34

Hello all! My DD is eight months old and I think we are both ready to night wean. I think she is ready because:

  • her feeds are now 3-4 minutes long, and she is off and on during feeds quite a bit
  • it used to feel like she was taking a lot of milk overnight but it doesn’t anymore. I have had issues with oversupply and if she woke late or missed a night feed, even until fairly recently, I would experience engorgement and have had mastitis more than once. Now, when she misses night feeds I don’t get any discomfort. However, I would still be uncomfortable if she missed a daytime feed
  • her wake ups have become random, whereas before she woke at fairly predictable times for long feeds

I am ready to night wean because I am very tired, and I’m returning to work soon. I have a long commute on the motorway, and at the moment I wouldn’t be safe to travel to and from work. I also drive a lot for work - it isn’t unusual for me to drive 100 miles in a day.

DD has two naps a day, between 2.5-3.5 hours’ daytime sleep. She self settles to sleep happily most of the time. Sometimes needs a little extra comforting in the cot, but really only if she’s teething. After a night feed I put her back in the cot awake and she self settles back to sleep without any fuss, so she isn’t feeding to get back to sleep.

DH has booked a week off work, and we’re ready for a few hideous nights (hopefully followed by the best sleeps of our lives!). I would be so grateful if you could tell me what method you used to night wean, how long it took, and did it work? Please share all your wisdom, advice, and knowledge with me!

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June628 · 13/11/2020 21:45

Must be a night for celebrations @Dillybear I am 2 gins in! Haven’t had gin since before pregnancy days so I’m enjoying the rare treat! Hope everyone has a lovely weekend!!

Caspianberg · 16/11/2020 07:21

Hoping to join also.
Ds has been waking up to every 30-60 mins all night long, best case 2 hr gaps.
I decided last night enough was enough and Ian going to reduce night feeds

Started with the thought of only feeding every 3 hrs last night and trying to not let him fall asleep on boob. He took about 45mins to settle, then slept 8.30pm-11pm (fed), woke at 11.30pm but dh settled in 5 mins. Woke again at 2am (fed), woke 4am-5am and partied in cot whilst I tried shush and Patting, gave up at 5am (fed). 6.15am (fed and brought into our bed), 8am wake.

It could have been better, but could have been worse I guess. So it’s a start, and he did settle a few times without feed. He’s 6.5 months so I’m happy to night feed, but would like to get it down to 2-3 times max ( it’s every 3-4hrs)

Smudgefell · 16/11/2020 18:53

Hello everyone, and welcome @Fivebyfive2, @IrishMammy2020 and @Caspianberg!

@TradedAtlanta what fantastic news about Tiny-T, glad to hear she is settling so well at nursery. Glad to hear you're also enjoying your return to work! It's such a huge thing for them (and us!) especially, as you said, with our lockdown/Covid bubbs being deprived of most interaction and baby groups. I was feeling fine about it until I picked her up after her second settling sesh and she was hysterical. Felt a bit bad about it then! :( But as they said, it proves she has a good attachment to me (she does love me after all!) and apparently it's very common. She was fine for about 30 mins they said, until she realised I wasn't there. She was great when I left her, happy to go and didn't even care about a kiss goodbye. Hoping her first full day (Wednesday) will go better. I love how Tiny-T refused to be put down for a nap by your DH though - they just don't have the magic touch, do they?! She obviously missed you!

@Dillybear what great news! Amazing that she is sleeping so well through all those teeth, well done to you and Little Dilly. I hope you enjoyed your Prosecco and managed to get some quality time with DH! Sounds like you are doing so well, lovely to hear it's helped your wellbeing so much.

@June628 congratulations on the continued progress. Sounds like DD is really getting a lot better at settling and I think moving her into her own room is working wonders like you said. I think sometimes your presence just wakes them up further and gets them all excited for some attention. Of course, sometimes you just need to go in!

Smudgett has had a few up and down nights - some really good, some pretty bad (last night included!). Not sure why, but tooth cutting through and nursery trauma probably haven't helped. Last night I caved and fed her a whole bottle at 2.30 and at 6.30 just so she would go back to sleep and I could get some rest. I've not been able to get to sleep until 12.30/1am most nights (probably just stress/overthinking) despite being really tired. It's annoying because her best stretch is usually 6-12ish at night, so I'm missing out on a good chunk. Nevermind!

My only advice to newcomers on this brilliant thread is to echo what Traded and Dilly mentioned and see what works best instinctively for your baby. Try a few methods and then stick to one. If it feels really, really wrong then there's nothing forcing you to carry on with it! There are lots of different ways and they're probably all going to have ups and downs, good nights and bad nights. Just keep going and keep us updated - we're all here to support one another (even if I am a bit sporadic with my replying...) Xx

Dillybear · 17/11/2020 07:16

@Caspianberg hello, how are your nights going? Waking so often is brutal. Sending you strength and solidarity! When DD was a little younger than your DS I did a similar thing where I’d feed her only every 4 hours and otherwise settle her in the bedside crib, as she’d started waking really frequently and I was getting no sleep at all. It was a few tricky nights but after that it settled back down for a while and we were on two quick feeds. It can definitely work and it’s quite a gentle method as you’re there and comforting the whole time. I would agree if DS is still feeding a lot overnight at this stage that you wouldn’t want to cut feeds altogether.

@Smudgefell lovely to hear from you again. Hope last night was better?? I can totally relate to missing your best chance to sleep. I think that what they say about cortisol building up in babies and overtired babies sleeping worse must be true for adults as well. I hope you got some sleep last night.

Completely agree with you as well about trying different methods. I think I used every gradual approach I could find to help DD’s sleep and then finally got to CC. So it can be a combination of methods as well.

As for us, we’ve continued with sleep throughs except for Saturday night where she was up for just over an hour. My fault as she napped too long in the day. I really need to keep her naps around 2 hours. It’s such a fine balance with my DD. She already seems to be resisting that second nap as well, and her last nap transition was a nightmare so not looking forward to the switch from two to one!

After all this, it now looks like I might be furloughed instead of going back to work when I planned. Everything is a bit up in the air at the moment but I should know more soon. Part of me would be really pleased to get more time with DD but it’s also worrying me quite a bit. The comforting thing is I work in a field where I wouldn’t ever struggle to get another job, so that’s the positive.

Hope everyone is still doing well.

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Caspianberg · 17/11/2020 07:41

@Dillybear - thank you for asking. Night two was a disaster. He woke after 2hrs, Dh tried to settle him but after 20 mins crying in dhs arms I caved in and fed. Then he woke every 90 ish minutes until 5am when he was changed, wide awake. He then fell asleep an hour in pram downstairs.
I just didn’t have the energy to listen to him screaming his head off last night. Need to try again tonight. Am hoping he will start filling up of solids more in the daytime also over the next few weeks

Dillybear · 17/11/2020 09:36

@Caspianberg I’m so sorry that sounds awful! If you don’t mind me offering some advice, it would be that if you don’t have the energy for it at the moment then just do what works/what it takes to get by until you do, and then when you decide to do any kind of sleep training, try to be as consistent as possible. So easy to say but I really do know how hard it is. Someone told me that around six months would be when DD was at her hungriest in terms of milk, which helped me to kind of accept it a little more - if that makes any sense? But I do think that 2-3 feels overnight is plenty - I’m not saying don’t try to reduce the feeds now! But it’s not worth beating yourself up over it if you don’t have the energy for it at the moment. I don’t know if this makes any sense!

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Smudgefell · 17/11/2020 12:38

@Dillybear glad to hear you're carrying on so well with the sleeping through! Hopefully your potential furlough situation sorts itself out - nothing worse than feeling so uncertain about such a big part of your life. At least, like you said, you would be able to find another job. Keeping fingers crossed that it goes your way.

Little Dilly's napping sounds brutal! They're so tricky sometimes aren't they? I hope her nap transition isn't too bad for you.

@Caspianberg I feel for you! Sounds like a horrible night but please don't beat yourself up about "caving" and feeding him. It's not what he's used to so he will probably kick up an almighty fuss at first and get pissed off about not being able to drink milk back to sleep. I know Smudgett did! Sometimes they are really just hungry as well, for whatever reason, even if they've eaten loads during the day. Smudgett also does this.

Last night was OK thanks! She woke up at 4ish and 5.30 and I fed her both times but she went back to sleep until 8.30 so it wasn't too bad. Fingers crossed she carries on not waking up too much!

Caspianberg · 18/11/2020 07:39

@Dillybear @Smudgefell - yes it’s a knock on effect isn’t it, the less sleep we get, the less energy we have to try and counter the lack of sleep.

Last night we had more success. Asleep by 7.40pm, then was just fed at 10,1,4. Dh resettled him quickly at 12. Woke 6.30am
So again, not miracles, but we had a much better sleep in between.

Smudgefell · 18/11/2020 09:24

@Caspianberg lovely to hear that you’re having small victories! Every little step towards less waking/feeding seems a huge leap, doesn’t it? Sometimes when she’s being tricky I have to remind myself that she used to wake every 2-3 hours so anything less than that is still good. Last night she woke at 4 again, fed her and she went back down fine until 7.45 when I got her up for her first day at nursery Sad

Dillybear · 18/11/2020 10:28

@Smudgefell awww good luck today with DD’s first day! Out there in the big wide world! Let us know how she gets on (and how you get on leaving her!). She is doing so much better now with her sleep. Fingers crossed it continues like that.

@Caspianberg sounds like you had a much better night. It’s crazy, isn’t it, what a ‘good’ night’s sleep becomes after you’ve had a baby. Keep us posted with your progress Smile

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TradedAtlanta · 18/11/2020 11:06

Sorry I’ve been away for some time. I keep trying to reply, then getting pulled away to something else. On childminder days it just feels like I often have no moment to breathe from 7-7 until I put her to bed.

@Caspianberg - welcome. I hope you are finding this thread as helpful and supportive as I have. I think we have all in this thread had a tentative relationship with advice, knowing how frustrating it is when that advice doesn’t align with parenting values, or repeats that which has already been tried. That having been said, your posts remind me of my experiences with Tiny-T when I was feeding her to sleep so I thought it might be useful just to check with you how your LO is going to sleep. I was so reluctant to accept that feeding to sleep was a problem for us and took every ‘better’ night as evidence that I could continue. When I finally got through a gradual retreat method to the point that I wasn’t touching her and was soothing her by voice I was incredibly frustrated that she was still waking constantly. It felt like I’d given up this special time of feeding to sleep for no benefit. For my DD it took for her to go to sleep completely alone without me even in the room to cut those hourly wake ups.

@Dillybear - Tiny-T is also on the verge of dropping to 1 nap (although of course she’s a bit older than little Dilly). We’ve had several months of having to more and more drastically cut the length of the first nap in order for her to be able to get to sleep in the afternoon. Where we are now, more or less any nap in the morning makes the afternoon nap difficult, but she still can’t make it to the afternoon without a nap, so we’re ending up with a long late morning nap then a slightly earlier bedtime. It seems to be working ok for now.

@Smudgefell I am thinking of you and Smudgett today. Tiny-T had a hard time yesterday having not been to the childminder since last Thursday.

Caspianberg · 18/11/2020 13:01

@TradedAtlanta - thank you, that is helpful. He does often fall asleep feeding as he’s shattered from lack of sleep! But he can and does fall asleep by himself sometimes. Last night he fed then went into cot awake and played about 15 mins with his comforter toy before falling asleep. I was just laying on my bed reading, so he could see me but no input.

Fivebyfive2 · 20/11/2020 20:00

So we decided to work on him falling asleep without being on the boob before actually cutting the feeds out. We re jigged our routine this week and took the plunge tonight...

I fed him downstairs, we did teeth, story and his song, then had a cuddle and put him down in the cot awake. It took 23.5 mins from putting him down to him going off. He basically cried from the second we put him down, which was horrible. Dh went in at 2 mins, 5 mins, 10 mins and we were part way through the 2nd 10 min wait (I was seriously about to go in and put him on the boob!) when he just went went quiet and conked out. Obviously we'll see how the night goes, but I'm a bit encouraged just because it didn't take 2 hours like I was afraid it would! Once we've cracked him being able to get to sleep without needing to feed, we'll work on cutting the feeds back.

Dillybear · 22/11/2020 07:23

@Fivebyfive2 that sounds tough! But I’m glad it was short lived and that he fell asleep fairly quickly. How have things been since then? I hope things are improving.

How is everyone else getting on? Little Dilly is still doing well! The other day she slept 11.5 hours solidly, its hard to believe she’s the same baby. And on Thursday night, I actually managed to sleep through the night too!! That’s the first time I’ve been able to do that since very early on in my pregnancy. On Friday I felt amazing. I got so much done! I haven’t managed to do it again - last night my sleep was particularly bad actually. But I just remind myself I’m still relearning a skill. Having said she’s doing well, this morning Dilly woke just after 5.30. We left her chatting to herself in her cot til 6am so as not to encourage the early wake. I don’t feel too bothered about it though as it wasn’t a night wake (she would cry if it was), and my aim was to reduce the night wakings - to make them the exception rather than the rule - and we have definitely achieved that over here (so far!).

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Fivebyfive2 · 22/11/2020 08:08

@Dillybear, it's been OK, seeing an improvement already but I still feel very conflicted. Dh is very supportive, but I just don't think he really understands sometimes.

So 1st night we had 1 wake at 1am and he fed, went in cot awake and it was 20 mins then he he slept till 6. Morning and afternoon naps yesterday was 15 mins and he slept really well. Bedtime last night and his 12.30 wake up (again, had a feed but went in cot awake) were both 5 mins!! We did have a hiccup this morning, he woke at 4.15 and had pooped, once all changed he was really awake so we sat with him for a bit then once he was yawning etc about 5.30, put him down again. It took 15 mins and he slept till 7.30.

So here's the thing... I know it's 'working' as he is now falling asleep without being fed to sleep, or even having a feed right before which we absolutely need because I'm back at work soon. I know it's good that he can do it, for all the reasons. It's great he's sleeping more and that we're down to 1 night feed. I know we're going the right way quite quickly with the times getting shorter. I know we've tried literally everything else before doing this and nothing worked. I know 5 mins of crying is probably better than 40 mins of him getting frustrated because feeding to sleep wasn't working as well anymore anyway.

But I can't shake the feeling that I'm doing wrong. I hate that he cries pretty much right up until he falls asleep. I hate that we go in to check on him and leave. Please someone tell me that he might get more used to it and settle without being so upset?! I know it's only day 2 (well, 3 now!) I guess I'm a wimp!

He is perfectly happy once up, no increase in separation anxiety or anything, so that's a relief I guess. He doesn't seem to hold it against us, I'm sure dh thinks I'm being silly but I can't help it!

TradedAtlanta · 22/11/2020 08:40

@Fivebyfive2 the reason it feels so wrong is that you are a devoted and responsive, loving mum. This goes against your normal parenting responses. Remember that means at every other time your little guy gets mummy or daddy cuddles as soon as he asks for them. I know people have different ideas, but to me, responsive parenting isn’t an all or nothing game. I saw this research from Harvard www.health.harvard.edu/blog/new-study-says-okay-let-babies-cry-night-201605319774 on another thread and found it a really helpful counterbalance to the older research about stress of crying.

In answer to your question about going down with no tears in the end, of course he will.- he’s not going to be 15 and regularly crying himself to sleep. I guess the question is how quickly. Some of my friends who did controlled crying found their babies did keep having a few minutes of moaning but I think their relationship with it changed and they no longer found it so upsetting. I was hugely conflicted about sleep training and was lucky that gradual retreat worked for tiny-T. What swung it for me was how many friends and relations who I never thought would have ‘left their baby to cry’ (pre-being-a-parent judgemental Traded-Atlanta there) came out of the woodwork to say they’d done it, many of them at 15-18 months when they finally couldn’t do it anymore. My thinking was, well if I’m going to end up doing it anyway, I may as well do it now and not be a zombie for the next 9 months. For us, more or less as soon as she learned how to go to sleep on her own, Tiny-T stopped crying. Sometimes it takes her half an hour and she plays with her toy perfectly happily until she drops off. We went away for a few weeks to stay with family in the summer and were a bit quicker to go and help her when she woke in the night (through not wanting to disturb others) and when we got back she really struggled again but it was a few more distressing bedtimes and she was back to doing it well. And for us, it was clear she wasn’t not crying because she knew we wouldn’t come as she continues to be perfectly happy to cry for us if she’s got a cold, isn’t comfortable, is teething etc.

@Dillybear really good to hear little Dilly is doing so well and that it is beginning to translate into good sleep for you. We’ve overall had a wonderful response but the last two nights have been tricky. She’s got the ubiquitous starting childcare cold and struggling to breathe - making noise constantly through the night. This too shall pass....

Dillybear · 22/11/2020 09:47

@TradedAtlanta’s posts are always so thoughtful and well written. I completely agree with everything she’s said. It totally goes against your instincts to let your baby cry. It felt really wrong to me, too. I think it’s such a personal choice whether you want to continue or whether you decide it’s not right for you.

There are a couple of things that helped me. The first is possibly specific to my DD but where you mentioned feeding to sleep working less and him crying anyway, it reminded me of this. When my DD cries before sleep, I’ve found that she will stop as soon as I go to comfort her, but then she’ll start up again as, whilst soothing and comfort are nice, I haven’t actually made the tiredness stop. She’s not crying because she needs me, even though it’s nice that I’m there, she’s crying because she’s tired and frustrated. It was the same with the long night wakings as well. Nothing I did ever helped her, she eventually just got tired enough to go back to sleep.

Before a nap, she does go through phases of having a bit of a cry before she goes to sleep. Generally it’s brief and intermittent, but I can hear that it’s a tired cry, and actually there aren’t any tears, she’s just frustrated not to be asleep. For my DD (I totally realise not all babies are like this) the best thing I can do for her is leave her to it. If she starts to get upset, that’s when I would go in. But again, I can only comfort her, I can’t actually make her sleep. So even though I’m comforting and settling her, she still cries. I think when you’re worried about him crying, it’s important to take into account what kind of cry it is - is he actually upset, or is he cross and tired? If he’d be crying with you there anyway, and there’s actually nothing you can do to help him, then although it feels horrible you’re probably helping him more in the long run in showing him he can fall asleep by himself.

You’re probably worried having read that that my DD always cries before sleep and that your DS will, too. But that’s not the case at all. Bedtimes are absolutely lovely at the moment (they have been for a long time, but I always hold in mind that everything is a phase!). She just snuffles down and drifts off happily. Very often it’s the same for naps, but sometimes she just goes through these little phases. It’s so lovely that she goes to bed happily and I’m sure your DS will get there, too.

Speaking more broadly, there is a lot of fearmongering when it comes to sleep training. The research does show that it’s not appropriate for younger babies, but the idea that babies who are sleep trained learn that no one is coming for them so they stop crying at night simply isn’t supported by research (or common sense!). All babies cry in the night if they need something. If a baby doesn’t know how to get to sleep by themselves they will cry for help with that. If they know how, they won’t. But if they are in pain, cold, stuck with their arm through the bar of their cot, or anything else - your baby will cry for you! When people write on mumsnet (or anywhere else) about sleep training, the vast majority say that they sleep trained and after that their babies slept well.... except for teething/colds etc etc. Their babies don’t just lie there if something is wrong!

I believe this comes down to a misunderstanding of attachment theory. A baby’s ‘attachment’ style can be secure or insecure (there are different types of insecure attachment). Securely attached babies know their needs will be met by their mother (/main caregiver, but I will say mother just for simplicity). They experience lots of positive, loving interactions with their mother and family members every day. When they have a need, the mother recognises this, and meets their need. The relationship they have with their mother becomes the blueprint for how they see the world, and how their relationships with others tend to go. Securely attached babies grow up feeling that they are loved, they are important, they matter, their needs matter, the world is safe, and people are generally trustworthy. They tend to have better mental health in adulthood and their overall outcomes tend to be better.

One type of insecure attachment is referred to as ‘avoidant’ - this describes children who have learnt that no one is going to meet their needs. For this to happen, their mothers need to consistently fail to meet their needs. These children/babies don’t bother to cry, or seek comfort - they know there’s no point. They grow up feeling that they aren’t important, they aren’t loved. They learn that the world is not a safe place, and they can’t trust people. I have met lots of children like this, due to my work. It’s quite honestly heartbreaking. However, it’s at the extreme end of things.

When you are sleep training, you aren’t just leaving a baby to cry. You are reassuring them repeatedly. You are also doing this in the context of a very happy, secure overall life experience. Given that you are thinking so much about how this could impact your baby, I sure you are a very loving, nurturing, responsive, caring mum. Every single interaction you have with your baby, day after day after day, teaches him that he is loved and safe, that he can communicate his needs, that the world is a happy, safe, place, and that people are generally trustworthy. All that work you’ve put in, all the love you’ve poured into him, can’t be undone by a little bit of sleep training. Babies are simply more resilient than that!

All this is to say that you won’t be doing any harm if he’s left to cry for short periods while he is learning to fall asleep by himself. But, having said that, if it feels wrong to you and you don’t want to do it, then don’t. There’s nothing wrong with deciding something isn’t right for you.

@tradedatlanta - sorry to hear about DD’s cold. Typical! She’ll be back to sleeping well soon, I’m sure. It must be nice that the disrupted nights are the exception now, though. Hope you’re settling back into work okay.

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Dillybear · 22/11/2020 09:53

I should add that I’ve really simplified the stuff about attachment theory, but I don’t want to yammer on and on. You probably know quite a bit about it already anyway, so I’m sorry if I’ve come across as patronising. There’s lots of resources online you can access if you’d like to read in more detail, as well.

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eggofmantumbi · 23/11/2020 08:31

Hi ladies, I've just read through this thread with interest and like others have said I'm loving the tone!

I'm on my second baby. First was a boob monster. We sleep trained using Ferber method at 7 months and night weaned by about 11 months.

This one though is way more stubborn in middle of the night, although she self settles to sleep and she now refuses a proper feed at night.

Has anyone experienced this? At 8 months does she need a full milk feed before bed?

Smudgefell · 23/11/2020 14:47

Hello everyone!

@Dillybear Wow! What an improvement! That really is amazing, well done to you three for doing so well. Little Dilly is really getting the hang of sleeping through. Fingers crossed you have more full nights of sleep yourself - like you said, it's been so long, your body is probably thinking "what the hell is this?!"

@Fivebyfive2 sounds like you're really on the right track! It's so hard at first, and, like you said, it may feel totally wrong. But you're doing it for the right reasons (to improve his sleep, improve your sleep and teach him how to fall asleep on his own and without feeding). You'll have setbacks and bad nights and great leaps forward and great nights too. Eventually it'll start to pay off and you will see it was worth it. Your baby will not think you don't love him! As @TradedAtlanta and Dilly have said, all your loving interaction with him won't be undone. Hope you start to feel better about it, please keep us updated.

On our end, things have mostly been going well. A few hiccups and bad nights, but also good nights where she's only woken once or twice either around midnight then 4/5 am for food.

Nursery has been good so far - I think she's really enjoying it! Can't wait for her next session, she has a new little friend. How is Tiny Traded getting on with it? Smudgett seems to have picked up a runny nose from nursery too!

I have also only just realised that I've been calculating her age totally wrong. Feel so, so stupid!!! I just counted 4 weeks from the birth, then kept adding on 4 weeks. So she was 8 months yesterday! We weaned her 3 weeks too early! No wonder the nursery person was giving me funny looks when she asked how old Smudgett was. I don't know how I've not realised for so long... Honestly, I can't be the only idiot that's done this? This is what happens when you have zero HV follow up! Blush

Smudgefell · 23/11/2020 14:53

Forgot to add, @eggofmantumbi that I always give a full milk feed before naps and bed! I usually do this, let her climb up against the bars (this is her new thing, standing up, and she cannot get enough of it) and pop her dummy in and give her a back rub and kiss on the head. She usually gets down after a while and goes off to sleep with no problems and occasionally a little cry. If I try to keep her on her back she just gets annoyed and frustrated!

Also appreciate that not everyone likes using a dummy but I've found it helps and she doesn't really use it at any other time!

eggofmantumbi · 23/11/2020 15:11

@smudgefell I think I just have a weird baby who doesn't want milk at bedtime!!

Smudgefell · 23/11/2020 15:16

@eggofmantumbi how funny! Yes, if I don’t give mine a milk feed she WILL NOT go down easily/at all!

June628 · 23/11/2020 15:51

Hi all! Sorry I have been awol for a while! Keep meaning to log into the computer to reply properly but alas it hasn’t happened yet again.
Welcome to all the newcomers! I hope you’re all progressing in the right direction and the sleep gods are with you!
We are having a bit of a rubbish time at the moment with early wakings and nap refusal. Hoping it’s just a phase as I really don’t want to start feeding again at 5am 😭 DD seems hungry in the day I am upping her solids but she never turns away as if she’s had enough I think she’ll eat until she pops if I gave her the chance! So hard to know if I’m doing the right thing with no follow up and monitoring of these little ones. But she’s following her centile so I’m sure it’s all fine.
Hope you’re all well & the little ones in childcare are having a blast & making new friends & their mummies are coping with being away from them!
@Dillybear has your work situation become any clearer? Sorry if you have already mentioned it up thread.

Dillybear · 25/11/2020 21:34

@Smudgefell that’s so funny about how you’ve been calculating her age! The nursery worker must have been so confused 🤣

@June628 yeah things are clearer in terms of work now. I’ll be going onto furlough until at least the end of January. After that I don’t know. I’m staying positive as it means a little more time with DD and I’ve been dreading her going to nursery.

Sorry to hear your DD is being tricky again with her sleep. Hopefully things have improved by now?? Sending positive sleep vibes over to you for tonight 😴

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