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SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 6 - now with added caffeine*

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ImBarryScott · 10/09/2007 08:04

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Morning all,

Hope you find this!

for your rough night Amber.

After a few good ones, we had a crap one too. Up at 1.30, 3, 4.30, 5.30, 6.15........
I think she was a bit overtired last night. Hope we can get her napping better today .

So how were all your nights?

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skirmish · 09/10/2007 08:03

oops. should say it 'wasn't' gut-wrenching, more just grizzly 'come and get me so we can play'!

tibsy · 09/10/2007 08:35

skirmish - thank goodness for your ok night it must be hard when you know you've got something in the offing ie. pg or work looming. i guess, in the end, we all just do our best
re. the cows milk, i had to phase it in, as it tastes quite bland if you compare it to bm or fm. i just diluted it 75% to 25% cows milk, then gradually increased cows milk iyswim?

skirmish · 09/10/2007 08:38

so you mixed the cows milk and formula together? (why didn't i think of that? - pg brain )

tibsy · 09/10/2007 08:45

i have those duh! moments and i'm not even pg.... was like it before tho!!!

right off for a shower, dd and i are off to the library later, although its p*ng down with rain atm
hope there were some good nights out there

MegBusset · 09/10/2007 09:18

Tibs at massive boob moment... I get those if LO decides to only take half a feed, v frustrating! Nothing funny about the two-hour waking though.

EP hope DS' tooth comes through soon. Mine is showing all the signs of teething but can't see/feel anything yet so it might be a few days.

Skirmish hope you crack those early mornings soon!

Our night wasn't too awful, woke 10.30 (just as we'd gone to bed for an early night, typical), 12.30, 3 and in bed with us til 7. Got woken up about 3.30 by loud clunk and exclamation of "Sh*t" as DH had fallen out of bed!

tibsy · 09/10/2007 09:26

meggy - glad your night was doable... at dh falling out of bed!!! hope he didnt hurt himself tho obviously. got anything nice planned for today?

Amberjee · 09/10/2007 09:29

LOL at dh falling out of bed. at least it wasn't ds!
blerrgh tibs for your 2 hour waking.
skirmish, if ds is just grizzly these days, my earplugs go in and i ignore him [bad mummy emoticon] he usually goes backto sleep that way, but when he's yelling and screaming oh no, he needs attention NOW
ds was a bit unsettled last night, but had him in bed and he went until 5am before lunging himself onto my breasts and then i put him back in his cot and he slept until 8

Amberjee · 09/10/2007 09:31

tibs, we're going to tune time, it's such a nice little baby and toddlers music group. i really enjoy it (esp the cup of tea at the end )
i actually discovered another fab music group yesterday which i think i'll go to from now. am putting BF helping on hold for the moment because am so disillusioned at hte moment with ds' feeding, i can't possibly inspire anyone else about it!

tibsy · 09/10/2007 09:49

amber - no boob til 5am, i'm very impressed. tune time sounds lovely, dd loves my music, so am sure she'd enjoy something like that. will have to investigate what's around when i say my music, i mean CD's, wish i was musical m yself, but alas, no! think you're right about bf support, hard to promote anything if you're feeling a bit at odds with it all x

Amberjee · 09/10/2007 10:01

yeah, music is so great for them (and therapeutic for the mum's i think). the one yesterday was called Very LIttle People Make Music and the instructor was amazing, I am always so in awe of people with beautiful voices. Also a bonus is that it is in a lovely room with mirrors all down one side, and you know DS lurrrrves mirrors (he's a bit vain actually!) And it is upstairs with huge windows, so if there is ever any sun again, it is lovely and light and warm.
i was very impressed with the no boob until 5am thing, esp since he was in bed with us since about 2, so he could have flung himself onto me at any time. i'm realising that maybe i'm just offering boob as a matter of course every time he wakes up. so i think i'm going to stop offering and only give it if he demands it at night.

Tamdin · 09/10/2007 11:21

morning all. Just been to music class and ds now asleep.

Knew yesterday's post would come back to bite me! ds unsettled last night. not sure if teeth or tonsillitis still hanging around or he's getting something new!
he seemed hot and kept asking for water.

feel tired today after a run of good nights,
off to make a coffee.

tibsy · 09/10/2007 11:54

yep, dd cant get enough of those mirrors either, its SO cute, especially now that she knows it actually her and not another bubba
on another note, i'm fed up with dd using me as a dummy to get to sleep for her naps today she's refusing food (i wanted her to have some before her nap) and she just wants boob. i know she'll just be suckling for a few mins then off to sleep, so will have nothing in her tum to sustain her for a long nap.
i now feel at myself for not staying calm

tam - for your night and for poorly ds. may still be the lingering tonsilitis or theres a lot of other stuff going round i guess. enjoy your coffee and rest when he goes for his nap

Amberjee · 09/10/2007 13:15

oh poor tam, sure it was just a glitch.
tibs, this feeding lark is so tricky. i think because it's comfort + food, it's a difficult concept. in the day ds ONLY eats before naps. if i try to offer it at another time, he gets really mad, or sometimes goes on for 1 second as if he just wanted to taste it and then goes onto somehting else.
we had a disaster morning, ds refused morning nap at home, so i took him in the pushchair, powerwalking for 45 mins in the pouring rain, to no avail - he did not sleep! he's only just gone to sleep now. god knows what the rest of the day holds.
anyway, ds will currently only eat food which requires use of pincers such as peas, sultanas and corn. god, dinner took FOREVER last night, this is an interesting phase

MegBusset · 09/10/2007 13:23

Must be music day for everyone -- we are off to Monkey Music this afternoon. Normally I go with DH, but he's working in town today, so I'm taking my mum!

Tam for crappy night, hope tonight is better.

Tibs sorry you are having a rough time re: naps. If it's any consolation, although I have stopped feeding to sleep at night or using a dummy for naps, so he is going to sleep without sucking, he still doesn't sleep any better.

tibsy · 09/10/2007 13:44

thanks guys! what would i do without you?

felt better just for writing it down and took a deep breath and tried dd with something else. then i took her upstairs, gave her a bottle, read her a story and lay down with her til she went to sleep. took a little longer, but she went off. am sure i'll be back to 'boob to sleep' tomorrow, but just couldnt face it today

amber for lack of naps. 45mins in rain is hardcore!! hope you get some rest now

meg - do you not take lo to monkey music then, dh last week, mum this week, what about poor ds? ....enjoy!

right, off to get started on one of my new library books, bliss!!

Amberjee · 09/10/2007 14:35

LOL at meg taking all the family, except ds to monkey music!
well, we've only had 30 mins sleep in this house so far today. i think the remainder is going to have to be in the sling on the way to supermarket (in rain) if i time it right. sigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wolfmama · 09/10/2007 16:44

Sorry not to get your messages until today. Had t go out for the afternoon yesterday and not stopped again until now.
Tibs - thanks for the advice. Still waiting for Eliz Pantley's book to come in at the library. Their copy has been lost so they're getting it from out of area.
Don't think I've heard of gradual retreat before but sounds intriguing, tell me more...
Last night not oo bad anyway, didn't bring ds to our bed until 6.30, then up at 7 for successful potty sit. Which reminds me, saw EC mentioned elsewhere re. potty training but couldn't work out what it stands for. Antbody able to enlighten me?
LO asleep in car so have to check on him again now

Amberjee · 09/10/2007 16:53

it's elimination control or elimination communication. teaching babies from an early age to 'eliminate' on the toilet or potty and learning to read the cues.
i'm sure there is better info than this, but as an intro infant potty training

Amberjee · 09/10/2007 17:01

this is a bit more useful natural infant hygiene

fizzbuzz · 09/10/2007 17:49

Wolfmama, gradual retreat is where you sit by cot for say 3 days, then move chair away bit by bit over a period of time, until you are next to door, then move outside That's the theory anyway...dd was having none of it, spent 3 hours glaring at me from her cot one night, in case I dared to try and move away (as if...bladder nearly exploded though)

It all seems to cut to pu/pd, controlled crying or gradual retreat. dd seems immune to them all

Bad night Tibs (and others)Hope it improves for you all. Dd awake 6 times last night, and then woke up at 6.00am

Amberjee · 09/10/2007 18:02

fizz, i know what you mean. ds cried for 2.5 hours the first night when i didn't BF him. and that was when he were holding him/he was in bed with us. i hate to think what would have happened if we just left him alone. (or maybe he would have just gone to sleep )
anyway, i've had a shocker day, naps gone arse up, ds is asleep now, i really should wake him up because what is going to happen to bed time, but actually i don't care because i'm liking the break.
dh just called to say he's got a 6.30 conference call, so i told him to eat dinner at work because i can't be bothered to cook proper dinner when he's coming home late. [bad wife emoticon] seriously, i just wanted someone to take over and give ds a bath tonight. oh well. guess i'll enjoy it, i might get in with him.
we saw one of ds' swimming friends at the supermarket which was nice. they held hands from their seats in the trolleys [super cute emoticon]

MegBusset · 09/10/2007 19:52

Amber, hope your bedtime goes OK... bet you need a break!

We have had a busy day with my parents, shopping, music group (yes, we DID take LO too! ) and a walk round misty park... hopefully this will translate to a decent night, esp. as DH has gone to the pub after work.

Fizz, I'm not sure gradual retreat would work for us either, the one time I tried it for a nap (lying on bedroom floor) he rolled around the cot cooing and trying to get my attention for half an hour before I gave up. Perhaps I'm not persistent enough, but it seems no kind of way to spend my day

wolfmama · 09/10/2007 20:15

Weird sleep day today. Wan't up 2h before went back off for nearly 2h. Fell asleep sitting up ni pushchair this aft, v. unusual. Slept again after pathetic attempt at tea. Then not surprisingly took ages to get to sleep just now. Seemed very tired though, as though something was stopping him sleeping. Let's blame the old teeth eh.
Here's hoping the night's not too bad - for all of us! Back tomorrow

fizzbuzz · 09/10/2007 20:22

When ds was born, he was the perfect sleeper. I used to think everyone else with non-sleepers were doing something wrong..

Misguided smug little fool that I was.

Now I know how TOTALLY wrong I was. I seem to have given birth to a child who is like the princess and the pea only WORSE!

Talk about pride before a fall

fizzbuzz · 09/10/2007 20:22

When ds was born, he was the perfect sleeper. I used to think everyone else with non-sleepers were doing something wrong..

Misguided smug little fool that I was.

Now I know how TOTALLY wrong I was. I seem to have given birth to a child who is like the princess and the pea only WORSE!

Talk about pride before a fall

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