SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 6 - now with added caffeine*

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Morning all,

Hope you find this!

for your rough night Amber.

After a few good ones, we had a crap one too. Up at 1.30, 3, 4.30, 5.30, 6.15........
I think she was a bit overtired last night. Hope we can get her napping better today .

So how were all your nights?

thanks tam,

and i'm so glad you've settled into a really good pattern at nights.

i'm going the excuse that another teeth may be coming through , as ds off his food, off his milk and just generally a bit off ...

aww thanks guys I'm sure there will be a few issues when we move and the disruption that will come with that but for now he's doing so well and it's all been him. The milk weaning def helped but again that was because he was ready.
I just wish i'd let go a long time ago and accepted co-sleeping is ok and not some wierd thing to do (can you tell i saw dr sears interviewed yesterday!)

also tibs no luck selling the apt. think we might rent it out for a 6-9 months and try and sell next summer.

tam - that sounds a good idea love

right, you and amber are making me think about the night time milk, think i've got to either 1) bring back the bottle, dd wasnt so keen to wake once she knew it was for a bottle and not boob! or 2) hold back as amber's doing.......right

might be an idea to think about it. in hindsight ds was ready to drop the milk a few months before we did but i missed the cues.The gradual gentle approach worked for us as none of us in this house seem to react well to cold turkey!

thanks tam...am geared up to give it a try now! cold turkey a definite no no in this house too!!

is dd asleep? ds been asleep since 12ish. No sign of him dropping his nap thank the lord!

yep, shes been asleep since 12ish too, dont know what the heck i'll do when she wants to drop her nap, arrrgggggghhhhhhh

i know i often think how much longer the day will be (entertaining wise)when ds drops nap. what age do they normally drop it? have friend wh's ds is 2.3 and he's starting to skip i some days and not others so guess that's the start of it. atm ds can't keep his eyes open past 1pm

yep, dd's cut off pont is about 1 ish too. cant remember what age ds dropped it, think EP (not our EP, but NCSS's EP!) says they have naps up til about 3 1/2 - 4 somehow, i dont think dd will have read that page
i like the way our day's set out atm, cos it means i can go to a group/visiting in the a.m, have lunch then dd naps whilst i do whatever, then a few more hours entertaining til ds gets home, then dinner, bath and bed.
dd is taking about 30 mins to drop off with me laying next to her at night, i know you had a 10 min session the other night, but how long does ds usually take to drop off on a 'normal' night?

normal night 20-30 mins. this invoves reading a few books. a sip of water and then snuggling under duvet and me singing a few songs! i stay in bed with him theentire time and get out when he's asleep or lift him into his cot. on saturday night i fell and woke up at 10 to find dh still in living room drinikng red wine and watching the boxing. he hadn't htought to come and check on me

sorry for spelling and missing words!

busy in here today

at your good nappers

hi skirmish. how's things?

hey tams - ok here. Ds up at 5am and hardly back to sleep at all, not nice, am beginning to reach the end of my tether with it, but know that it's not his fault either, so feel doubly crap when i lose it

He's been good so far today, but is always much happier when he's slept til 6 at least

ho hum...

how's you?

5 is so early you're doing well to get through the day!

we're fine been out this morning and then ds had his lunch and nap and is just up! we're off out again to m&s to get some bits for dinner. tesco del not due until tomorrow and have run out of ideas!
hate food shopping esp with ds as he has a 5min boredom threshold and then starts moaning or grabbing stuff off shelves but needs must.

hope rest of your day goes ok

strangely ds loves sainsburys (they must love me too, i seem to be in there 3 times a week!!) - i think its being higher up in the trolley to see things, rather than the pram.

have no energy and have had crips and choc pudding for lunch (but i'm pg don't forget so have an excuse ) and ds is happily turning tv on and off and i can't be bothered to tell him not to! He's quiet!

enjoy m & s - don't forget to get some yummy snacks

tam - dp would leave me there all night

skirmish - for those early blardy wakings. i think you're doing really well on low sleep esp as you're pg... crisps and choccie pud sounds a lovely way to boost energy levels!!

Reading this thread makes me feel a lot better, although am almost at some of the stories on here.

Grizzle at 1.30, then screaming at 4.00am, followed by 2 hours of screaming and or hysterical laughing. Dp so fed up at 4.00, just refused to have anything to do with her (he is brilliant normally), so took her in bed with us for 1/2 hour of giggles and prodding Dp took her into bed in her room with him. (placed there in the vague hope that if one of us slept in there she would sleep through....ha ha)

She slept until 10.00am, me and dp up at 7.15am fresh as a daisy for work (Grandma was staying, that was why we knew about 10.00am)

Sometimes feel as if I am part of some huge experiment about how to function on practically no sleep at all.

Then have to go to work....and teach teenagers........they often suffer because of my sleepless nights....., poor kids.

Hope everyone has a restful and peaceful night with no wake-ups at all Am rooting for you all

oh dear, poor you fizz, hope you get some rest soon.

A fairly typical night unfortunately

Fizz, that sounds tough . I can manage night wakings as long as DS goes back to sleep again! We've had a few of those long awake periods as well. Generally when we've had to bring DS into the living room for some reason so he wakes up properly and thinks it'smorning! It's hard when you have to drag yourself out of bed for work - I'm up atm while DS and DH (who works from home) are happily snoozing .

Another unsettled night for us, though oly 3 or 4 wakings (that I remember) so I feel a bit more rested. He's obv uncomfortable atm so I suspect teeth again. Think those back teeth might be wrking their way through. Will try a bit of Calpol tonight and see if if helps.

On the bright side, bedtimes are getting easier (in general, he still has his moments). I'm trying to stick to the same routine - feed, book, feed, sleep - and it takes about 1/2 hr now instead of an hour or more. Once he's asleep on our bed I stick him in the cot. Usually in with us when we go too bed, though sometimes we can get an extra hour or so sans baby if we're really quiet

Morning EP and for your improved bedtimes. Ours are 30 mins to the second!!! Hope you had a nice evening with your birthday boy?

Fizz for your nights, and working with teenagers after that? My upmost respect to you. Those long wake ups are a killer. Hope you get some respite soon

Our night involved a 2 hour wake up, but it was from 11pm, so I wasnt in a really deep sleep (whats that again?!) I tried to settle her without milk, but after 30 mins, dp warmed her a bottle which she gulped down then proceeded to be very restless, dont know what that was all about? for another hour+, arrrghhh. I thought that would be it for the night, but no, she woke again at 4.15am and I just couldnt get out of bed to get her another bottle, so I ended up bfing from my masseeeve left boob!!! think I must favour that one as the right was fine

anyway, I've escaped, leaving dd asleep with dp and threatening ds with no Xbox 360 at the weekend if he doesnt get ready on time today..... not my most admirable of parenting skills I have to say

EP, lol at your hour sans baby if youre really quiet!! we do the same and are creeping around the bedroom, dp had a coughing fit the other night and i got really cross

oh fizz awful night, respect to you going off and teaching after that! I can barely remember if i've brushed my hair that morning!!

ok-ish night here - did the screaming thing half hour after going down, and then another one round 10.30pm (though dh dealt with that as i was a bit bleary eyed!!) Awake at 4.44am (precisely!) and i'm ashamed to say i just left him . Figured that nothing else is working, and my time is running out to get him sleeping, so sort of resorting to CC - but though he cried on and off til 6.45, it was gut-wrenching/ pull at my heart-strings crying IYSWIM!

hopefully he will learn to sleep a little longer

to those who have lo's on cows milk, did they take to it straight away? or did you gradually phase it in?