8mo wakes every 30/40 mins day and night!

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Help me someone! My lovely DS2 is the happiest of babies but can't connect sleep cycles. Have been trying the Tracy Hogg approach, applied pick up/put down to naps and that definitely has helped to get him down in the first place. BUT it doesn't seem to make the blindest bit of difference whether he's fed to sleep or gone down in that fabled "awake but drowsy" state; he still wakes up 30/40 mins later. Occasionally an hour and a bit. With naps it's not breaking us too much as I can either pick him up to get him back to sleep or just make sure he has another couple of naps but at night time - omg. Put him down at 18:30/19:00, he'll just keep waking up all evening and then the night too. The problem is that it's partial awakenings so he won't settle back to sleep by himself, I have to pick him up, but atm he is instantly falling asleep on my shoulder. Then I have to try to get him down in his cot without waking him up which can take a Very Long Time. Atm I'm up and down all evening till I go to bed, then I'll pop in one or two more times, then normally at 11 something I give in and bring him in the bed with us as who could actually function going in every half an hour all night, every night? Unfortunately even in the bed he still tosses and turns and feeds a lot all night, so none of us are getting brilliant sleep. I just don't know what to do. If I try to settle him in his cot his crying just escalates.

Anyone resolved a similar situation? X

I don't think I could even do controlled crying, because I sort of already am! I put him down awake and he goes to sleep, he just doesn't cry first!

Hi everyone, can I join? DS (7 months) is killing me slowly with sleep deprivation! He's usually awake screaming at least 3 times from 7.30-9pm when I go to bed, then up multiple times a night. A good night is every 2 hours. Bad night is every 45 minutes. He co sleeps in my bed, just because we cannot get him to sleep anywhere else. I hate it, am so uncomfortable. He used to go in his next to me crib for a bit at the start of the night but now won't do that at all. Day naps are shit. Three 25 minute stretches is standard unless I hold him. I'm so sick of fighting him for 30 minutes every nap time for him to wake up again so quickly!

I've read all the books! Shush pat and all other forms of comforting in the cot make him furious, feeding to sleep only works overnight and rocking takes forever and lots of tears/writhing/back breaking effort! Seriously considering CC even though I said I never would as he just seems so miserable all the time.

Argh have a really overtired DD today as she barely napped. I feel so trapped by her sleep 😭

I know exactly what you mean. All my friends just carry on with their lives and their babies just nap. I spend my life on bloody nap clock.

It's a rubbish feeling x

I try not to stress too much about her naps in the day as I have my toddler four days of the week so it's just impossible to give the amount of attention to sleep that's needed. Not to say I don't get frustrated with my toddler coming and shouting at me that she needs a wee when I'm trying to get baby to nap and she is perfectly capable of doing a wee by herself! 🙈
It's more the evenings I feel really trapped, mentally and physically!! Husband is working most of the time at the moment too so feels v lonely :(
That said, DD just did a 45 min sleep before waking which is better than the last two evenings. One day it WILL keep getting better and better!!!! 🤞

Despite snotty cold we seem to be getting two hour stretches again, suddenly and out of the blue.

Had a look in DS2's mouth today as well and poor thing his gum is so swollen and looks miserable. Tooth is entirely through on one side, so hopefully that's almost there on the other side now.

Have switched to long sleeve vest + sleeping bag as it's over 20 in the bedroom consistently now.

Also have noticed significant change in the types of sounds he's babbling, so possibly the recent jump in sleep needs could have been related to development - if that and a cold and teething were all happening at once poor thing must have been quite overwhelmed.

God we're nowhere near two hour stretches. 40 mins max 😭 on the other hand once she's in bed with me she's doing three hours which I think is more than before (although I'm half asleep so hard to tell! 😂).
Once she's in bed with me she does these excited happy gurgly sounds which are cute and infuriating at the same time!!!
A friend with a slightly older baby has just done CC and now her previously badly sleeping baby is sleeping through... I so badly want more sleep but I just hate it when she cries :( please improve before I'm back at work DD!!!!

YY DS2 sleeps better in bed with me. I think that's normal. It's where they are meant to sleep after all. The 2 hours (sssh - we even got a single 3h stretch yesterday evening) seems to be a new thing so I've no idea if it's a phase. It came after a solid month or so of 45 min/needing to be in total body contact/randomly waking up for an hour or two in the middle of the night, so I did wonder if he had done a spurt of needing me before getting more independent? It's too early to tell though. And the snot is bothering him a lot.

Yes DD is all snotty at the moment too. I jinxed myself as she was very restless last night even in bed with me! 😭 and all up for the day at 5am, Yey! She's asleep on me now and I have to wake her up as we are going out. She had an early start yesterday morning too and then a mammoth three hour nap on me in the afternoon. I thought oh she won't be overtired now so maybe she'll be less wakeful this evening.... ha ha ha!! 😭
We're going away next week to stay with my in laws and I'm going to be so embarrassed that I basically have to go to bed at 7pm with my children!! 🙈

Yes, other people's judgement is the worst thing IME! Especially if you're bumbling along fine and they make you doubt yourself

The most annoying thing is they'll think I've "spoilt" her with too much cuddling etc but at the same time with my elder DD they couldn't tolerate it if I left her to cry at sleep times 😂

How are all my ladies?
DS seems to be better now after a few days of being poorly, so feeling like we really need to sort out the sleep now. Naps seem to have worsened as I let him sleep on me while he wasn't well, now I'm having trouble putting him down at all. Sometimes he doesn't want to feed to sleep which seems like progress but I don't have a reliable alternative method yet! DH is helping at night time bless him but there are times when he can settle DS no problem and other times when he just can't so I have to go in. It's not just hunger either, definitely boob comfort/sleep crutch DS is after. I feel like there are a lot of changes going on (v close to walking) so this is probably a good time to entrench a new routine... just easier said than done! But I need at least his nap times to myself before I lose it

We are still terrible! 😂😭 naps no longer than 30 mins, in buggy, on me or in sling. Still won't sleep without me in the evenings. The past two nights I've tried staying with her whilst she's in cot crying, trying to comfort her etc. Yesterday she finally fell asleep after half an hour with her dummy and me patting her head, tonight she screamed SO loud for ten mins I couldn't take it I had to pick her up and comfort her 😢 it feels like no matter how gentle method I use it makes zero difference, she just wants boobs and cuddles :(

Much sympathy tumtitum. I have got to sort out the naps again, just looked at my first post and saw that pick up/put down worked for us months ago, so maybe we'll give that another go. I was thinking longingly earlier how different my life would be if I could put DS down in his cot a couple of times a day and know I'd have say an hour to just do things that need doing/play with poor DS1.

It's bloody tough isn't it. Feel sorry for DH who I'm repeating the same moans to every evening - can see he's bored by it, I would be too but need to vent!