Sleep is for the weak part four, we're officially hardcore.

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Yes ladies we've got a shiny new thread to share our woes of chronic sleep deprivation, to hail all that is gloreous when something works and throw our arms in the air when it all goes wrong again.

One bad night doesn't impress us, we're awake more than we sleep cos we is 'ard I tell ya.

Hello everyone,

Hope there were some good nights out there - would I be right in the cases of the amber and tibs households?

Hi xcupcake - your nights sound really hard. My dh has to work nights sometimes and it makes the nightshift with the little one seem a bit lonely.

Meg - your poor moggy. Hope she's on the mend soon.

Tibs - enjoy the wedding and make the most of the dcs free time.

Another dodgy night - not as bad as last night as the waking was every 3 hours rather than 2! Up from 5ish though, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a good afternoon nap, so I can grab some kip myself .

Embarassed she has now done it 3 nights in a row 7pm-6.30am!!! We have had 5 months of sleeplessness so lets hope we have a respite for a while.

All our troubles have not gone away - she is eating even less solids - no fruit in any form, yesterday all she would eat is toast, rusks, yoghurt and rice cakes. Definitely no link between sleeping and eating for her.

A tip, may be coincidence but she is now sleeping in a 0.5tog sleeping bag, first time we tried it at night when she slept through. Worth a shot.

Hope some of you had some good nights.

morning all
welcome cupcake but that your night shave gobe T**ts up all of a sudden.
is it bad dreams/needs the loo?
tibs have a great day on your own with dp
ginger dd's bumped head but so pleased that she wasn't upset at being left. prob the best time age wise as the older they get the more clued up/clingy they can become.
bags early starts area killer. hope you get some zzzz this afternoon.
meg how's the cat today? and did your night improve any?

amber yay for clever ds doing his pee in the loo!
ds is 17m and starting to point to his nappy when he wants changed so might be a potty soon to have around the house to see what he thinks.

our night not too bad.
went to bed at 8 w
oke at 10pm (2 mins)
2am (bottle)
4am (signed for more milk, wish i'd never taught him baby sign!!)
7.30 for the day.

the milk thing is odd as i don't know if he's hungry (he does drink it all) or needs it to go back to sleep or maybe both?

feel ok today as the wakings only last a few minutes (downs bottle) then straight back to sleep

x posted tapster what a good girl.

don't sweat over the food that's plenty for her age. remind yourself food is 'just for fun until they're 1!'

lots of typos in there so hope you can work out what i was saying!

hi everyone, can't help feeling a little peeved as we had a visitor (friend of a friend) who talked at the top of their voice even when I said LO was sleeping. Cue crying from LO, trying to get him back to sleep, he wouldn't because he heard there was stuff going on downstairs, so had to bring him down. Now he is major cranky because he's only had 1/2 hour nap. I KNOW its petty, but I wish people would be more considerate.

Last night was OK, woke at 1, self settled, woke at 3, I fed him, woke at 6 for the day. Not as good as the recent records ...

hope everyone is doing ok.

welcome xcupcake, but sorry you find yourself here. it's really hard when you're at home alone having to deal with the wake ups. hope you get some rest soon. xx

hello Tam - glad things weren't too bad for you. Your LO sounds like a smart cookie with his signing .

Tap - sounds great. Let's hope this is the new norm.

Amber for your house guest. I know people who don't have babies sometimes forget how important their sleep routines are, but once they've been told, it's a bit cheeky to carry on regardless. You are not being petty! Hope you get back on track.

hi bags!
tam, i'll pick your brain about baby signing soon. thinking of starting teaching a few signs.

hi lovely ladies!!
tap for your consistent good nights!!!

amber - i know what you mean. dp has a friend like that. he is so loud its unreal. i try talking more quietly so he gets the hint, but no!! maybe i should try shut the f$$k up tibsy jnr is asleep

tam, glad your night wasnt too bad bless ds and his milk

bags about your night honey. you must be due some respite soon

ginger, EP and meg - hope your nights were ok Meg, enjoy the wedding

xcupcake - hope you managed to get some rest too

our night ok, bed at 8pm, woke at 12 for a feed, again at 5.45am for a feed but thankfully went back to sleep til 7.30am yey!!!!
better get ready for wedding. ttfn!!!!

eek tons of shouting already and no it is not me
why are sleeps such a battle now

Evening everyone. We had to come back early from the wedding as LO's eczema flared right up - think there must have been some super-strong pollen around as I've been very sneezy too.

But we did see the ceremony, which was lovely, and DS slept all the way back too. And what a lovely day for it!

Thanks for all the cat well-wishes, she is looking a bit less sorry for herself today, still keeps knocking into things with her collar though!

Oh, and our night last night? Well, after the unsettled evening it was actually OK... last evening waking was 11.30ish, but DH managed to settle, then he woke at 1 (fed), then 4.30 (in with us and fed), then up at 7.15. So not too bad in the end.

Taps how old is your LO again? (I have probably asked this before, but have sieve for memory)

seems everyone is sleeping or out
bye for now

hi cup cake, has your LO settled at all. it's so tough when they do this evening crying thing isn't it.

anyway, i'm off to try and get some sleep. i hope everyone's nights go smoothly.

Hi all, I'm new to this thread - very encouraged to see I'm not the only one with a baby who wakes every two hours. Also it's interesting to see that some of you are saying your babies have been teething for months on end, and that you see this as the cause of their regular waking. What teething symptoms have you noticed?

Am just about to lightly wake him as I was advised by a MNer that if you do this half an hour before their regular waking time(s) it helps break bad waking patterns. Well, it does, and I reckon he'd sleep through the night every night - provided I'm willing to lightly wake him at 2 hourly intervals throughout the night! Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it? Anyway I'm off to bed for now but just wanted to say hi before I get...ooh, I suppose about 2 hours sleep.

the shouting has gone on for hours he is competley distroying me any ideas olease

Meg DD about to be 8 months old. She did it again last night 8pm-5.45am, only woke up early as she had pooed her pants. She did often wake up 2 hourly for months. She did however sleep up to 9 hours up to 3 months old. Have read that if they did sleep long stretches once they will go back to it, we had to wait 5 months though!

Morning all

Cupcake ! did you get any respite at all? I really hope so.

Hi there Mrs. TH. Your waking sounds pretty hellish. But you are not alone! How did the wake-to-sleep thing go? I'm intrigued - I'm far too chicken to try it.

Well done Tap on another good night.

Meg for poor LO. Is he any better today?

Tibs - did you have a fabbo time, then?

Things were MUCH better here. LO up until 9pm (daddy arrived home just as she was going to bed, and I think she was exited, so wanted to stay up). Then up at 2am, 4.30am, and for the day at 6.30. So we got a 5 hour stretch!

TBH she is much better when she goes to bed later ie 9ish rather than 7ish. But most days she wants to go at 7, and I worry about waking her if she's tired. Any thoughts?

shitty night well not a night as such.

dh is being a hero at night but im so tired and he is at work till nine tonight

why do children cause such havoc
don t feel like doing much today maybe when my daughter returns from my in laws i might make more sense of the day
im sure though the teenager should be the one giving me the sleepless nights.
gtg,,c the letters are from the little monster

Cupcake - sounds really hard. It's even worse when there's no=one around to give you a break. Are you DH's hours always this extreme, or is this a particular busy time?

I hope the little one is kind to you today. Any chance you might yet 30 mins to yourself while LO has a nap [hopeful emoticon]?

these hours are better than his last job
sounds strange
im suppose to visit my family in two weeks
but my daughter has a friend visiting in a day guess she will stay at the in laws too
little monster is just to ridiculous for words
thanks for kind regards from everyone

morning all.
cupcake had an early night last night so missed your posts. Remind me again (baby brain!!) is it your 3yo ds that's waking up half way through the night? obviously he's talking what does he say is the reason he can't sleep?
why the shouting? do you mean he's shouting from his bedroom for attention?
would you consider bringing him into bed with you for a while until he feels secure/happy to sleep alone again?
I'm not 'tough' and have never done cc of any kind so feel free to ignore

yes he is the three
and yes he talks loads
reasons for not sleeping vary from
whys daddy gone to work
im not tired.
i have lost my snuggles
i need you
i just wanted to tell you i love you
and he really appears not to be tired in the middle of the night
shattered in the day

is there any way at all you would let him sleep in your bed for a few nights/weeks until he's settled and has broken the tired in the day, awake at night pattern?
ime all things like this are phases and if it meant you both got some sleep then would it suit?
have a good friend and her dd did this exact thing for a month or so but after a few weeks she went back to her own bed when she realised she had the option of both iyswim. just an idea