Sleep is for the weak part four, we're officially hardcore.

[gingerninja]

Yes ladies we've got a shiny new thread to share our woes of chronic sleep deprivation, to hail all that is gloreous when something works and throw our arms in the air when it all goes wrong again.

One bad night doesn't impress us, we're awake more than we sleep cos we is 'ard I tell ya.

amberjee are you aussie with japanese origins?

ps I'll swap your not well rested for my toddler tantrums!

he he, japanese origins indeed!

i think EP wants to swap at the moment too so maybe we could do a round robin. make us appreciate our own LOs more.

that's good to hear EP. i'm back to work september. it feels too soon, but i suppose i haven't been off so long that my brain's completely atrophied! I was hoping to find a childminder, but haven't yet found anyone i like who has vacancies at the right time for me. i live in hope.

I work in farringdon, which isn't a million miles from covent garden. meeting for a child-free lunch sounds like a lovely idea.

def on for a swap

tired of my dear son
won't sleep will cry wrecks the house
anyway for swaps?

anyone

whoops. x posted everyone!

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Loving haiku fun
long may it continue here
makes me smile though tired.

nappy incinerated
kettle on, gimme coffee
bubba asleep, bliss!

am waiting in for something amber.... and yes, re pooing more on starting solids. cauli cheese, never again

oh and tam hope lo plays ball soon... xx
am up for a swap, although not atm as she's asleep

now ds finally dressed
food shopping beckons oh no
anyone swap life?

lol tibs i'll take your sleeping baby if you'll take mine to sainsbury?............I din't think so!!

taht was didn't i was going all gangsta rap on ya ass!

God so many posts must catch up, have a cold [sniff] feeling sorry for myself today. Can't believe I haven't symathised with those of you that have been feeling poorly recently, wasn't intentional but now I'm ill I realise how rotten it is. Back later

poor ginger
don't worry we're just being prats and enjoying posting in haiku stylee.
Hope you feel better soon X

poor ginger, sympathies as i'm sick too hope you're feeling better soon.

here's a prattish haiku for ginger:

ginger feeling sick
on mumsnet she feels better
with special haiku

tam thats the style of tomorrows posts.... gangsta rap mutha f*r or mo fo, to be more polite

ginger, sorry you're feeling crap. honey and lemon juice in hot water is great for colds. tastes yummo too. big hugs to you xx

EP I worked in Covent Garden for about 6 years (Henrietta Street and Long Acre), left 3 years ago for Paddington and when I go back I'll be at Old Street. Maybe we passed each other in our pre-baby days. I loved working in Covent Garden such a buzz. Paddington is dullsville.

Right, toooooo many posts to comment on so will just talk about me No seriously, I hope you're all well, and sorry for those with pantsarama nights (and days).

We've had some hoooooorendus nights. The last 3 nights we've had 2 hour wake periods. Sat night she slept like an angel in the early part despite a very noisy party in our garden /house she slept until 1 and then was awake screaming on and off until 3 . I'd gone to bed at midnight when our guests went so was really cheesed off. I felt rougher than my hungover DH on Sunday.

Last night she was back on the matress on her floor. Briefly awoke at 10.30 and I managed to quickly settle her laying next to her with a hand on her tummy. She slept until 2.45 and at 4 DH took over as I was getting naffed off and I went to bed. It took him another hour to settle her and she slept until 7.30. I woke a lot earlier because I'm suffering a cold so I still feel very tired today but it feels like a success because she slept in her room and for most part on her own. I'd kept her really cool so wondering if that helped with the itchy eczema so tonight she'll just be in a vest.

Anway, off to feel sorry for myself

[joins in haiku fun]

Ging sorry you're ill
I worked in Covent Garden
too, top of Neal Street

also whatever happened to the sitfw meet-up eh??

[feels left out due to not having worked in covent garden]

but i did drink coffee there sometimes - lurrrrve the monmouth.

Hi everyone!

EP - for your rubbish night, and everyone else and for your reasonable ones. Mine started off well but ended horrendously. He slept non-stop btw 11.45 and 4.15, then when he woke I managed to get him to sleep fairly quickly, only to have him wake again after 2 mins. This repeated itself about 7 more times between 4.15 and 6am!! DH came in at this point, having heard DS crying. He had no more luck than me so I finally bf'd ds to sleep around 7.

Today he's still constip and on hunger strike. Poor love.

Ginger, for your cold. You prob have 102 different meds stuffed up your nose but I swear by steam inhalation (10 mins, twice a day - germs don't like the heat). I usually add aromatherapy oils too - 1 drop each of the following: lavender, tea trea, clove and thyme. Clove is not always easy to come by but a good vendor is Baldwins: www.baldwins.co.uk/ Good prices too. If you make up this mixture I'd make it in bulk in a sml bottle. Lavender and tea tree and thyme are great bug-busters; clove - I'm not sure why it's there, but the whole thing just works. Also Green & Black's choc is particularly gd for poorly mums.

By the way I added the clipping about laughter and breast milk as a bit of a joke - it made me laugh!

Must dash - am freezing green beans as a gum-cooling chewing stick for the wee bairn. I think he needs one right now.

Parting haiku:

sore gums, empty tum
DS has a full bum
tired mum
needs some rum

ooh, 17 sylllables and it rhymes!

Kisses all round!

oh and I once worked in cv gdn - shop called bumpsadaisy used to sell maternitywear but is no longer.

oh dear - posset. gottogogone!

hi thierry, i have to admit to indulging in some green and blacks today

the steam inhalation sounds good. i have some bizarre ayurvedic inhalation oils that i brought back from india. sure packs a punch (almost too much to bare), but you are guaranteed to breathe easily after it.

i read about swaps for children earlier
i am sure no one is up for one sprited toddler
two teenagers angst or not, and why is that word in every book at the moment.
dh is at present on sentry duty near ds room as i am sure it is second third or forth seperation anxiety
bye for now

Evening. DS just gone down after a very grizzly bath and bedtime. Maybe it's the heat making him itch, or the fact that he hasn't had a poo for four days ...

Also we are caught in a bit of a nap dilemma. When he takes 1hr+ at lunchtime then 3 naps are fine, but today he took 3 short naps of 40ish minutes so was overtired by bedtime. So the choice is either a) bring bedtime forward to 6.30 and risk him waking up at stupid o'clock in the morning, b) let him have a late nap (this would be around 5.30-6) and put to bed around 8, thus losing a big chunk of mine & DH's evening, or c) stick as it is and accept that he might grizzle through bedtime?

I would have swapped early CCM but DS is actually asleep! Don't want to jinx thingd as I did last night, but

(ahem)

The New Routine by E.P.

new routine for us
later bath then feed then bed
baby sleeps for now

sympathies for those suffering with us on bad nights, especially Ginger with your cold. Hope things improve for all of us soon