Sleep is for the weak part four, we're officially hardcore.

[gingerninja]

Yes ladies we've got a shiny new thread to share our woes of chronic sleep deprivation, to hail all that is gloreous when something works and throw our arms in the air when it all goes wrong again.

One bad night doesn't impress us, we're awake more than we sleep cos we is 'ard I tell ya.

hi girlies,
dd and i just back from a quick coffee with some new friends
one of your raspberry muffins would have gone down a treat amber am not making my night up, promise, have the dark circles under my eyes to prove it

tam - you're a fantastic mummy my darling xxxx remember, 'it's just a phase'
((((big huggy loves to you))))

meg, dd just decided to sleep longer at nap times too. she came to it in her own sweet time, despite me trying various things i know its frustrating, but it will happen

ginger, its a good start. don't be defeated, tonight you'll probably last a bit longer and so on...... you'll get there

tap - ........but really chuffed for ya

ooops x posted meg, those blardy recyclers hope lo manages to go back off to sleep

hi EP, glad to see you're having some improvements. you deserve it

hoping our goodie box is going to arrive today
one teenager desperate for english supplies
and a pre schooler also hope fully would of love ome muffins have to make do with mr kiplings

nothing wrong with mr kiplings, xcupcake
what are the ages of you children ? sorry if you've already said

sixteen year old daugther
three year old son
we are watching a pooh bear vid at the mo
as it is raining and we are reather weary

ahhh, you've got the same sort of age gap as us. 12 (nearly 13 yr old ds) and 10 mth old dd.
weather not too bad here atm, got to motivate myself to put the washing out before it p*s down dd just gone off for a nap so really should do it now.
wish i had one of ambers' raspberry doodahs to sit and scoff whilst watching tv

the age gap is a ravine i say to people
they can manage to still squabble
but my daughter can be a good friend too if she has nt eaten all my choc

bye for a bit

nothing wrong with a bit of mr kiplings either!

Meg, wondering how the nap is going (hopefully still going)

One thing I find really hard about this timed naps thing is when we're out and heading back home before the start of nap time, I try to keep him awake, but sometimes he can't help himself especially if he's in the sling, he falls asleep early. I try and transfer him to the cot and invariably he wakes up. Cue crying because he's tired and not asleep. I haven't worked that one out yet. STill a source of frustration.

Amber: Ds does exactly the same, faling asleep in pram and then not in cot.

Re the Carrying Kind link: have you used them? I know one of the women who runs the shop

Have looked at the blog: you all rock! Love the bag of excuses post Amber - was thinking of doing this as a page at some point - what do you think?

Ginger: love the SIFTW history

Tam: lol at your baby signing (and also lol in an I've-been-there way at Amber's midnight poo explosion).

and thanks to all other posters. Think everyone's managed at least one post so far, so keep going!

Will put out a call for graduates to start with. Once we have a decent amount up (and all your histories in the About section, am still waiting for most of them...) we can discreetly point other posters to it

yeah, i love the carrying kind. got my ergo sling from them recently. and i recommend them to everyone in the market for a sling. will update with more sling links soon, just haven't got my act together.

Yes, let's make an excuse page, that would be grand.

will do my history soon.

Amber, LO woke after 30 mins but still looked really tired, so I put the dummy back in, and he went back to sleep!

I would have taken the dummy out again but he was laying with his arms over his face and I wasn't about to risk waking him. (He tends to wake when the dummy falls out so I prefer him not to sleep with it in.)

Anyway he is still asleep now! so I even had time to write a blog post

meg yey for the nap and fab first post no longer a blog virgin

EP rushing out the door but wil have my history piece to you this week i promise. sorry for delay
ps. thnaks for all kind words just feeling bit teary today for some reason

gosh, there's been loads on here while i've been out!

Tam - you are a great mummy, and clearly a great wife too, with your home baking! Where you and Amber find the time and energy I'll never know.

Hurrah for you LO Meg! Here, DD usually manages longer than 30mins nap at lunch, although she always needs resettling, so we can just scrape by on 3 naps!

Tibs for your feeding marathon. They do like to keep us on our toes!

ginger - hope you get a break today. 5.30 start is .

Cupcake - at you two being cuddled up last night. Very sweet.

Mrs. TH - my LO is still addicted to the swaddle for sleep, unless she's in a moving buggy, and I can't see us losing the swaddle anytime soon. Figure if she's not bothered, I shouldn't be.

I wonder if they make swaddle blankets for 7 year olds?

LO is sleeping off her jabs!

Tam you are very definately not a crappy mummy. You sound like such a lovely person and a great mummy to that little man. You are an inspiration to us all because even after all this time you are positive, calm and full of thoughts for others. We love you. Big hugs to you today

Amber, we have toys in the cot but she rarely takes an interest in them.

Meg I had exactly the same thing with mine and the only way I could get her to take longer was have her laying on me while I watched the telly. Get yourself some snacks, cuppa tea and the remote and put your feet up. He might suprise you. I did this for months and when I felt she was ready to sleep on her own I laid a matress on the floor and the transition was painless.

I used to get so flippin angry at any tiny noise waking LO from her naps because it was such an effort to get her to take one so I totally sympathise meg.

MrsTH what about a grow bag with the arms tucked in as a transitional phase? I never swaddled. Wish I had but could never get the technique right. I've read posts before of other people trying to break the swaddling addiction so maybe start a thread on it, you might get some useful tips.

Thanks for the suggestion, Ginger. Sadly I think the grobag idea will be even more constricting as at least he can wriggle his arms out of the swaddling blanket while asleep, but I imagine a Grobag won't offer that possibility.

Will def post a new thread on the topic, though. Smart thinking.

It's 2.30pm and I still haven't brushed my teeth . Shocking. Done my hair, though, so that's something.

Bags - my DH has sleeping probs; d'you reckon I could try swaddling him too? Might seem a bit kinky but it's worth a try!!! Poor, chap, if only he knew what I'm saying about him behind his back!

MrsTH: try swaddling with one arm out and see how you get on - move on to both if it doesn't siturb him. I stoipped swaddling when DS got really angry with being wrapped up and kicked out on his own.

Just had message from DH (am at work) to say that he put DS in the cot, he played about for 20 mons and then put himslef to sleep

UNless he's making this stuff up to bug me...

Quick update: lunchtime nap was 1.5hrs in the end!

Woohoo Meg

EP
meg
MrsTH

hi we have our goodie box complete with english flour
i can not cope with baking powder

my cupcakes simply exploded