Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Sleep

Join our Sleep forum for tips on creating a sleep routine for your baby or toddler. Need more advice on your childs development? Sign up to our Ages and Stages newsletter here.

Original poster

I have just about had it with ds2's sleep and dh's arseyness about it all

123 replies

popsycal · 22/05/2007 07:41

Every argument we have is about ds2's sleep. I don't know what to do next. I am sick of his bloody criticism and lack of help and support (but of course he has helped in the last two years apparently and as I 'only work two days' it should be mainly my area.....). Some things he says are so bloody chauvinistic.

I have just had enough of it.
Sorry for whinging yet again but am so bloody fed up

OP posts:
dinosaur · 22/05/2007 12:03

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

CarGirl · 22/05/2007 12:04

I have taken dd3 to a craniel osteopath for her night waking and lack of sleep generally. We have had only had one treatment so far (have already got 4 more booked) and IT HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!! She hasnt got up once in the night since! Her sleep issues are not as bad as what you are enduring but for her to go 10 days on the trot without getting up at least once for at least 3 of nights is a miracle.

As with many things osteopath sited birth trauma etc but she did have a very rapid delivery, only got herself turned half way around and had the cord around her neck so she was very quickly whisked away from me etc.

Original poster
popsycal · 22/05/2007 12:05

cargirl how old iss dd3?

ds2 was an extrenely fast labour and delivery....he is 2 now though

OP posts:
CarGirl · 22/05/2007 12:07

she is 3.9!!!!!!!!!!!! Hence why he said it will take a few treatments. TBH we aren't holding out much hope of it helping but so far things have improved. She would wake up at night and just be wide awake - sometimes 3 or 4 times per night. Then nothing for a few nights and then start the waking again.

Original poster
popsycal · 22/05/2007 12:09

might be worth a try
also may consider sleep lady thing

tbh i wanrt him medicaly chevcked out too

he is asleep on my laap now and am fairly sure he has sleep apnea, which i suspected for a little whe now

OP posts:
Original poster
popsycal · 22/05/2007 12:12

dh juast texted me apologising and acknowledging he didnt do enough to help in the early days and it is not nmy fault

OP posts:
Original poster
popsycal · 22/05/2007 12:17

right just been watchinfg ds2 sleeping
every 40 seconds or so he seems to stop breathing for about 6 seconds thrn does a massive sharp breath,....

OP posts:
ProjectIcarus · 22/05/2007 12:27

awww popsy that sounds f'kin awful(mrsApron here)

DD1 did all that for months but it was when she was a baby from about 5 months until 13 then it gradually got better.

Def a gp job now. and the Crantial osteopath. and anything else you can afford to throw at it.

i took dd1 to a co the woman was lovely took at look at my dark shadows and got me a cuppa and a comfy seat. 40 mins of checking dd over then she brings her over and says
" i am really sorry to tell you this

There is nothing wrong with her"

Then got me tissues as I wept for 10 minutes.

i hope you get it sorted. i don't know about apnoea but def worth mentioning it.

CarGirl · 22/05/2007 12:58

yes get a referrel for the sleep apnea and a cranial osteopath will tell you if there is nothing they can do to help.

dueat44 · 23/05/2007 21:04

Somenone told me recently that taking their lo swimming in the late afternoons sorted sleep problem - child too knackered to do anything but sleep

Original poster
popsycal · 23/05/2007 21:17

tried everything to wear him out i am afraid, the more tired he is, the worse he sleeps at night
bizarre i know

OP posts:
Original poster
popsycal · 25/05/2007 07:45

doc apt today
slept on ds2's floor last night
he only woke twice properly and went pback to sleep pretty quickly but was up for the day at 4:45.......
And i pretty sure that he does stop breathing

ds1 on the other hand, was unusually up and down all night and up for the day at 5:30
grrrrrrrrrrr

and guess who slept through it all....?

OP posts:
GibbonInARibbon · 25/05/2007 08:09

Good luck today, hope it's all positive for you.

Original poster
popsycal · 25/05/2007 19:58

wnet to gp and explained it all in blac and white

his opinion is that it sounds very much like sleep apnoea and possible adenoid problems, He Said he could refer us to a sleep clinic but the ENT specialist would most likely do that when we saw him/her. I explained how at the end of my tether I was and went thourgh all that i had read an tried. So he said he would ring the ENT dept himself and see if he could push it through.

I was out most of the day but got in at 5pm to an answer machine message saying they could see him on 11th june at 6:30 during an evenig clinic. althoguh this is close to his bedtime there is no way i will turn it down. Fingers crossed. Grinning and bearing it until then

OP posts:
mishw · 25/05/2007 20:04

good luck.

Sleep deprivation is torture. DD2 (8m) thinks that the day should start at 5am, however she sleeps through the night and I'm tearing my hair out at that, god only knows how you;re coping.

Keeping fingers crossed for you.

hoxtonchick · 25/05/2007 20:05

glad gp is taking it all seriously popsy.

Original poster
popsycal · 25/05/2007 20:11

he is
i didnt cry but almost sat in office ti he rang ENT but i the end left

amazed that a quick phone call can result in such a quick response

howver, i did jokingly say 'its a good jo ds2 is gorgeous.....' ...will have SS on me soon

OP posts:
mummynumnum · 25/05/2007 21:28

Hope it goes ok on the 11th. Will keep an eye on this thread to see how you get on. Good luck!

Original poster
popsycal · 26/05/2007 06:22

well you never guess what
he slept from 7:30 til 4:10 without a peep
I actually woke at 4 and panckied and went and checked so I reckon I may even have distrubed him.
woke for a few minutes then wnet back to sleep til 5:45
the only thing that was different is that I unintentionally left this window open all night in his bedroom
weird
t

OP posts:
fillyjonk · 26/05/2007 06:52

popsy haven't read all thread,

its bloody easy to be anti-CC if you have only one child, or a decent sleeper

have to extent been where you are. it is pure hell. i am only coming out the other side because dp DOES pull his weight, despite being being SAHM and him working

I have never or done any actual sleep training but ONLY because we have ended up just short of needing to.

Am just kind of sending "you need to do what you need to do" vibes. I'm sure you KNOW this but...contemplating anything like CC does cause me untold guilt and thats SO daft really. 4 years of sleep deprivation is a terrrible, unecesary thing, for both parents and kids.

fillyjonk · 26/05/2007 06:53

oh x posted, dd woke up

fabulous, popsy!

aDad · 26/05/2007 07:11

result!

Miaou · 26/05/2007 08:20

popsy, so glad you are getting some professional help involved - your "summary" post of what you have tried really highlights what you have been through. I will keep my fingers crossed for 11th June for you and hope it is the beginning of the end of the problem for you

Original poster
popsycal · 26/05/2007 08:53
Smile
OP posts:
NuttyMuffins · 26/05/2007 09:09

So glad you are going to be getting some help with this Popsy. Dd2 was very much the same, and I practically begged the gp for help when she was 1 and only sleeping 2 hours a night, and he offered me vitamins and to refer dd to a psych

Dd eventually got a bit better when we moved and she had to share with Dd1, but I can honeslt ysay that for the first 2 years of her life, night times with her made me want to run off and never come back again.

Hope the appointment is useful and that you get the help you need to sort this out.