Sleep is for the Weak! we got too big?!!??!?!!??

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can you believe that?! we got too big?
we should surely get an award from Mumsnet?

hi tam, its these wretched teeth again she seems to teeth on a cold as well iyswim, so we've got flame cheeks, dribbling, wheezing and snotty nose! poor dd she's ok tho in herself. gorgeous as ever and just as cheeky too!!!
hope you have a nice day. its stopped raining here thank goodness, ah well, better go and brush my teeth before group, am sure the other mummies will appreciate that
catch you later alligator

byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Morning all! We were out most of the day yesterday as my sister came to take me out shopping. LO was very well-behaved and did take his nap on time, fell asleep in pram in New Look changing room! Pretty impressive considering the volume the music was playing...

He also sat happily on my lap while I ate lunch, did try to nick a chip off my plate though! Still, bit at Caffe Uno waitress who, when I asked if there was a quiet corner or back room I could BF in, said "NO" and marched off (our table was surrounded by blokes or I'd have done it there).

Anyway, all that shopping must have worn him out, 'cause he had a reasonable night last night - bed at 8, shushed at 8.30 (the 30-min flail seems to be a new habit), then nothing til 11.30 (fed), 3 (fed) and 6 (wide awake in cot but brought him into bed and he dozed off after a feed til 7.30).

Oh and Bags, we always bring DS into bed with us when he wakes after 5ish 'cause otherwise he's impossible to settle, so the alternative is getting up for the day (no way Jose). I stick him straight on boob and normally he falls asleep after a while and rolls onto his back, though this morning I woke after a while and he was asleep with head nuzzled between my boobs [aww].

However, when he does wake up there's no more resting as he takes great joy in waving arms around, punching us in the face and clutching handfuls of DH's chest hair. Ouch!

morning everyone.

bags, ds is the same, if we take him into bed to sleep he thinks its playtime, no matter what time of the day or night.

we had a decent night again. feeds at 1.30 and 6, up at 7. i was very grateful that he went back to sleep after 6 feed, i thought i could be getting up ...

Awwww tibbs, we have the snotty teething here too. Its just an exra reason for ds1 to not sleep

But saying that he did go from 8pm to 10.30pm then asleep by 11pm and nothing till 2.45am!!!!! which is good for him. Awake at 4.45am and 6am though

Rotten weather today and dd1 is off school with a cold but tonight me and dh get to go out for the 1st time since ds1 was born. His mum is having dd1 and ds1 for a few hours, the twins are at a sleepover and dd4 is at my mums yipee!!!!

goodness, how many kids do you have magnolia

Magnolia and Meg - nice to hear things weren't tooooo bad...

tibsy for your 5am wake-up call.

Amber - glad to hear your night was reasonable. I'm really disappointed dd won't co-sleep, it sounds lovely and snuggly!

I have 5, the 4 girls were great sleepers so ds1 is a shock to the system

i think co-sleeping would have been good if it had worked oh well. it was funny last night. LO was really tired and fell asleep breastfeeding, he was really zonked out. so i put him on my chest and lied there for about 30 mins, it was sucha pleasure as usually he is so wiggly when he's awake its just not possible to enjoy a quiet hug. it was my sneaky way of getting some quiet time together albeit one of us was asleep

wow magnolia - you are supermum!

hello I was pointed this way by amberjee. I have 4 monther going through a growth spurt (I hope anyway, otherwise I'm leaving home!)He used to wake once or twice a night now its 4 times and the 3rd one always 2 hrs after the 2nd. I tried doing that feeding him when I go to bed thing and he woke at the same time anway. Tried going to bed at 8 just after him and he woke at 10.Its like he knows!

Hello Ms... you have my sympathies as my 4mo DS is doing the same thing! Actually we count 3 wake-ups as a good night, on bad nights it's been more like 7/8... has been going on for 5 weeks so we are really, really hoping it's going to end soon!

Where does your LO sleep? and is he BF?

welcome msappropriate hopefully you wont feel the need to be with us for too long!!! iyswim (you're welcome as long as you need tho ) its so hard when you get used to a certain amount of wakings and then they think of a number and double it!

magnolia..... dear god, that sounds like a military operation i hope you and dh have a fabulous night out together, enjoy!!!!!!!

i was coming on here tonight to have a moan, dd has woken 4 times already, so i know i'm in for a crap one we were doing so well too. anyway, it really cheered me up reading everybodys posts, so thanks for that ladies

dp off down the pub, the lucky sod. am really he managed to get dd to sleep after trying for 30 mins, only for her to wake about 5 mins after her left, grrrrrrrrrrr!!
ah well, best go up and spend some time with ds. he wants to watch sharpes challenge i like a bit of sean bean
hope we all have good nights and lo's are kind to us. we can but hope xxxx

Welcome Ms, the original siftw thread was set up for exactly the same reason. It seems that the four month mark marks a bit of a change in these Lo's sleep habits. Some of the original posters have regained their good little sleepers and some haven't I obviously haven't. Still, you'll meet liked minded sleep deprived mums here.

I've been away for a couple of days so not much time to catch up with everything but DD hasn't been too bad so far this evening. The blessed tooth appears to have finally cut so cross fingers for some improvement here albeit temporary given that they emerge in twos.

Evening Tibs.

Amber, Bags. It took me a little while to get used to cosleeping. I suppose you all need to get used to a different presence, each others noises etc but now it works a dream and much as I complain about it. I love it. Have to say it's improved ten fold since getting the bed rail. If she'd just stay asleep until I want to go to bed then came in with us it'd be perfect.

morning everyone. for a moment i thought i'd be asked to leave SIFTW after our week of blissful 1-2 wakings, but last night wakings at 8, 11, 2, 4, 6 (up). so i'm back in the running

hello msappropriate, as you see we have no helpful suggestions, but are full of understanding!

hey tibs, my dp is going out tonight (for the first time since LO was born, apart from working late occassionally). i told him to go out because i was so happy that LO was sleeping better and thought yeah, he deserves it and we will be fine. so last night LO decides to wake up every 2-3 hours again. sigh. you can't win. hope tonight goes back to 1-2 wakings.

wonder when i'll get to go out?

Morning all,

Welcome Ms. A - though I hope your visits here are brief . My LO is only 3.5 months, so I guess I have less stamina than most if I'm already moaning!

Amber - and it was all going so well! Any chance this is teething or something else one-offy?

Tibs - hope your dd eventually got bored of waking up .

Magnolia - hope you enjoyed your night.

DD settled at 9, then up 11.30, 2, 5, and off and on until 7.30. She's been very wakeful between 5-7 this week, but I kind of feel like she can't have it all ways - we can join the early risers when we're down to 1-2 wakings!

hi girlies, just a quickie as am off to work soon. dd sleeping like the proverbial baby after waking again at 5.15am grrrrrrr!!! dp in bed next to her (ditto) think hes sleeping off the ale tho

she did decide to give me a bit of a break and slept from about 10ish til 2.30 when she wanted a feed. then slept til the bloody 5.15am waking! have cut the feeds down to 1 now which is good, just wish that the other wakings would cease ah well, maybe when the teething lets up

amber, i hope lo is kind to you tonight your turn will come

magnolia, hope you and dh had a fabbo time

bags, not too bad a night? and 3 1/2 mths is just the right time to start moaning!!!

ginger, yey for the tooth. hope you had a nice time at your ma's?

better go, although am not feeling workish at all think the clients will mind if i get on the couch myself
catch you lovely ladies later

morning all. welcome msA.
amber they always go and shake things up just when you feel like you're getting somewhere. In the 17 months of ds's life he's done that to me at least 20 times!

we're in a 'bad' sleeping phase atm. last night was crap but strangely can't even remember what happened. just know he was in our bed for most of it and even then couldn't/wouldn't sleep. poor dh ended up lying horizontally across the bottom of our bed. how ridiculous! really must try and sort it out. might try pu/pd again through the night. can't see it working somehow but we'll maybe give it a go. (can you sense my lack of motivation!)

magnolia how was your night out?

Morning meg, bags and tibs
(hope i haven't missed anyone out)

hi bags, tibsy, tamdin.

no observable reason for waking up a lot suddenly. can't be bothered to blame it on anything.

now, after having only 45 minute naps all week, he's almost hit 2 hours this morning. just can't understand it. think he's being good for dh.

tibs, well done cutting out the feeds. i alwasy find it hard to know if i should feed when Lo wakes up especically if its only 2 hours since the last one.

ok, is awake now. lets make it 1 hour 50 mins!

Afternoon everyone. Not had time to read all posts (am doing some work from home, which takes up all LO's nap time that was previously spent on MN) but for crap nights.

Amber, my DH goes out once a week on Thursday nights since LO was about 4 weeks old. I figure we could wait forever 'til he's sleeping through, or just get on with it! And it's the only time I get to myself, so I enjoy kicking back with a glass of wine and some crap telly.

Our night was OK again, sleep at 8, had the half-hour flail at 8.30 then nothing til 10.30, settled a couple of times but woke again so I eventually fed at 11ish. Then nothing til 3 (fed), then nothing til 6, then in bed with us til 8.30

I daren't even think that this might be the start of things settling down again.

Oh, and he had a hour and a quarter nap in cot this morning! What is going on?!?!

meg for your better night and good nap. you deserve it.
don't mention the word improve it'll come back to bite you on the ass

Hello all, I second what Tam says Meg. We'll have no talk of improvements or express any hope on this thread please it's bound to muck things up

Our night was another typical night of going to bed with us just as we were about to go at 11ish. Woke a couple of times, once she'd flung her dummy across the room so I was scrambling around the floor feeling for it. Then woke at 5.20 for the day. I tried to ignore her and just cuddled and kissed. She was just about to go back after about an hour of this when DH sat up and said 'is there anything I can do?' he'd just registered her being awake. Cue DD being full of giggles again for daddy. one day sleep will come.

I fell bad reading the posts cos my son is good at going to sleep about 7-8ish and nearly always lasts till 12 at least (except the night I going to bed the same time as him and he only lasts till 10 or 11!). I tried getting my dp to give huge bottel of ebm last night about 11.30 (but I was up anyway) but he only lasted till 3 then 6. I wish I had gone to bed early!

I may try it again next weekend but am finding am expressing much less than a week a go, but don't do it every day as he still feeds a lot in the day.

I bf hes in a cot in the same room but sometimes we fall asleep together whilst bf. Hes a fast feeder but sometimes I take ages to fall asleep again. Or I wake up a hour after feeding him then put him back in cot then can't get to sleep myself. So annoying when I can fall asleep in front of the tv very easily!