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cruisemum1 · 2007-05-19T20:01:52+00:00

can you believe that?! we got too big? we should surely get an award from Mumsnet?

Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

bagsundereyes · 21/06/2007 17:22

Ginger - she's a beauty.
Fingers crossed for good nights all round .

Amberjee · 21/06/2007 17:24

i'm crossing fingers for a repeat of last night

i'm trying to get my head around having to prepare dinners for LO soon. how to find the time? maybe i'll give up mumsnet , no i couldn't. perhaps i'll just breastfeed him until he can make his own dinner?

EffiePerine · 21/06/2007 17:28

Not only teeth, but DS has starting crawling properly today - we didn't think he could move forwards but then looked up and saw him halfway across the kitfchen with a determined look on his face

He is now sat in his high chair wathcing me type, fascinated (this will last for all of 2 mins so better go...)

EffiePerine · 21/06/2007 17:30

Amber: there are lots of ways to cheat. Are you doing blw? Do you have a freezer (we don't)? You can give LO bits of whatever you're eating if blw. If not, make and freeze stuff in batches. One tip I had from another mum was to try then on the jar variety first, then if they like it try making it yourslef

tibsy · 21/06/2007 17:45

EP dont they say that developmental milestones disrupt los too? poor thing, teeth and that. but yey for the crawling bet he's really chuffed with himself.

amber, am crossing fingers for you too .....and for all of us!

EffiePerine · 21/06/2007 18:55

DS just went to sleep on his own without any patting/shushing/cot jiggling! Took a while to get him to lie down but still...

Had been meaning to look for blackout blinds, but being a)disorganised and b)skint have improvised with cardboard over the window and it seems to have worked. If successful will be getting proper blinds. You never know, might help with the 4am wakings as well. Or it could be that his teeth have come through. He's certainly eaten lots today after refusing much food for a while.

Would not recommend the diy route if you want a stress-free life: took me ages with my kitchen scissors and tape measure to turn lg box into Blind mk. 1 (and a lot of swearing).

Amberjee · 21/06/2007 18:58

EP, yay for crawling - what an exciting time. no wonder your LO can't sleep!

tibs, think we are BLW-ing. i don't think my LO is placid enough to let someone else feed him. i'm a bit of a food nazi, so like to cook things from scratch - very anti baby jars ...

i think i'm just trying to get my head around cooking things that his little hands can hold that isn't just steamed chip shaped vegetables. i'm sure my repetoire will increase soon. i suppose though all food is new to him and exciting even if it is just steamed veg. i just bought a new fancy food processer after ditching the 20 year old hand me down one from my mum, not for mushing baby food but for trying to make nice dips like hummous and avocado dip etc that can go on veg sticks and breads and stuff. but will be good when he can dig his hands into a bowl of stuff that i might be eating and shove it into his mouth.

Amberjee · 21/06/2007 18:59

sorry getting mixed up. comments were all meant to be for EP, not tibs!

EffiePerine · 21/06/2007 19:12

Other finger food DS likes:

bread and hummus/philadelphia
eggy bread
toast with anything (see the bread motif)

cheese cut into strips, esp jarlsberg or other hard but milk cheeses

roast chicken

gingerninja · 21/06/2007 20:03

Amber, definately depends on how much mess you can cope with. I let her eat slppy stuff with her hands at breakfast and tea time and that depends on the weather too so we can eat in the garden I haven't been following BLW strictly as I've been spooning stuff too but I do let her get involved as much as possible and she is now using a spoon, well, about 8 times out of 10 she'll get it but I do think that BLW helps them develop at a much faster pace. She was onto peas and tiny stuff long before her 'friends'

We had two good naps today so tonight will tell whether sleep = sleep or not. She's been a right misery today but we've got a canine (sp) tooth almost breaking the gum. It looks painful so I'm not suprised. I fed her this evening and plopped her in her cot, left the room and she moaned a couple of times, was just about asleep then DH made a noise and she had mega tantrum so had to sit in the chair next to her. She's definately geting better at setting herself to sleep just wish she'd stay that way.

Night night all

Tamdin · 21/06/2007 20:10

had the same situation ginger. ds was dozing off in his cot by himself when the neighbours decided it was a good time to go in and out of their rooms letting the doors bang close behind them. One was so loud it made him jump. He's asleep now but had to hold his hand through the bars and then he went to sleep with his head on my hand. Fingers crossed they all stay asleep

tibsy · 21/06/2007 20:30

amber, we're doing a mixture of both, as ginger. dd has decided she loves strawberries atm. she's not a huge eater and is a real titch so i do worry about her sometimes, but shes got bags of energy so must be ok its great to watch them explore new tastes and textures. enjoy!!!

tam, we've just had the next door neighbours decide theyre going to turn their music up full blast [anger] its a real pain as we knew the previous landlord and had their phone no. to call if too loud. dont know the new owners lets hoping the los manage to sleep.

MegBusset · 21/06/2007 20:44

Hello all
DS went to sleep fine tonight, whether he'll stay that way is another matter... eczema seems calmer today so hopefully that will help, and we've left a fan on to keep the room cool and for some white noise.

I hope it's not too awful a night as DH has gone to the pub and always snores after he's had a drink, I have to keep poking him to roll over onto his side, he takes longer to settle than the baby!

I'm looking forward to introducing LO to solids, think we will go for BLW although his eczema might affect when and how we can start giving food. I don't set a very good example as he watches me eat Vanilla Cream HobNobs all day

tibsy · 22/06/2007 07:30

morning all
does anyone else have amnesia at night? heard a snuffling last night, looked in the middle of the bed, and there was dd. i dont actually remember getting her there

mixed night for us. wanted to ask amber, (but feel free anyone with suggestions ) dd is staying on the breast for an extended time during the night. i woke again at 3am to find that she was still latched on after an hour+. also the amount of feeds tend to be increasing overnight as well the last time she woke for a feed was at 6.15am. i was woken by the alarm at 7 and she was still on? shes not eating her breakfast then as a result. tbh, i dont know what i'm doing atm

sorry to start the day off on a downer, i hope that there were some good nights out there

Tamdin · 22/06/2007 07:33

morning tibs. ds up again between 2-4 last night. think he's in pain with his teeth as he's in bed with us and stil can't settle. won't even take any milk. poor pet
i used to fall asleep stil attached all the time and def still get the night amnesia!
tonight's the night he's staying with mum and dad. nervous already!
what if he wakes 2-4. will he be upset or accept that granny is there instead of mummy?

tibsy · 22/06/2007 07:42

tam, poor ds i thought that it was tonight is your mum putting him to bed? i'm sure that he will be fine, but its all these 'firsts' that scare the s**t out of us.

Tamdin · 22/06/2007 07:50

it is tonight. did i sya tomoorrow night. must be tired! yes she will be putting him to bed so at least it won't be a shock when he wakes up

Tamdin · 22/06/2007 07:51

say tomorrow (spelling gone to pot too!)

tibsy · 22/06/2007 08:23

no, you did say it was fri, was myself!!! i agree about the less of a shock thing, but i'm sure he'll be fine anyway.
i know what its like, we think that noone can look after/love/comfort them the way that we do. and that is right, of course, but grannys do make bloody good substitutes
i hope you manage to have a great night and enjoy the lie in. although you'll probably be on your mums doorstep at 6am!

Amberjee · 22/06/2007 09:24

ah tibs, i have no idea about the night feeding thing. the stupid books say they don't need night feeding after 6 months, but 'need' is such a subjective word.

i'd say it depends what you can cope with at night. sometimes it is easier to just latch them on the breast and go back to sleep, maybe you get more rest that way. but then you're also building that as a pattern. for me, i tried to ascertain when LO wakes at night and i try to feed him, when he actually seems to take a lot in. i don't know if this makes sense, but sometimes you can here the gulping and the milk going in, othertimes its just slow sucking in order to go back to sleep. anyway, i found that if he has a gap of at least 4 hours between feeds at night, then he will likely do the gulping thing, so i try to feed only 4+ hourly, though sometimes i give in if he's being really unsettled.

in some cultures they do sleep with their babies for quite a long time and its expected that they latch on and off allthrough the night. and that's when breastfeeding as contraception is at its best when feeding is very frequent esp at ngiht. and i suppose having a baby in your bed is contraception in itself

so anyway, i have no authoritative advice for you, just my experience. there's so many reasons a LO will start to feed more at night and not too many easy answers...

Amberjee · 22/06/2007 09:25

sorry hear not here ..

Amberjee · 22/06/2007 09:27

oh tamdin, i hope it goes well. and i hope you get a great rest tonight, and have some fun too.

our night was probably okay, memory is hazy, but i could not get to sleep until 1.30am! so annoying. i went to bed at 9.30 and fell asleep at 10, of course LO woke at 10.30, then i couldn't get back to sleep for 3 hours. so annoying. i can't really blame LO for his poor sleep patterns can I when that happens to me. feeling less than chirpy today...

Tapster · 22/06/2007 09:40

Hope you had good nights. I think ours was good waking at 10.30pm and 2.30am and then awake for the day at 6.45am. Both wakings she fed for 5mins and was asleep straight away. I'm okay with this but DH says that she doesn't need feeding at night at 7.5months and thats why she doesn't eat breakfast or much solids.

Went to weigh-in yesterday and she still at 91st percentile weighing a massive 20lb 7oz -told off for BFing too much 4 times in day and 1/2 at night - told to cut down to 2 BF morning and night (see BF forum) shocked by advice even GF says 3 feeds a day at this stage. Obviously DD thriving on BM and no. of feeds has reduced drastically sinced she starting eating some food at 6.5months - I thought I was doing well. She loves finger food and lumpy food so why is there a problem? Unfortunately DH says I'm too soft and should follow HV advice!

Tapster · 22/06/2007 09:40

Hope you had good nights. I think ours was good waking at 10.30pm and 2.30am and then awake for the day at 6.45am. Both wakings she fed for 5mins and was asleep straight away. I'm okay with this but DH says that she doesn't need feeding at night at 7.5months and thats why she doesn't eat breakfast or much solids.

Went to weigh-in yesterday and she still at 91st percentile weighing a massive 20lb 7oz -told off for BFing too much 4 times in day and 1/2 at night - told to cut down to 2 BF morning and night (see BF forum) shocked by advice even GF says 3 feeds a day at this stage. Obviously DD thriving on BM and no. of feeds has reduced drastically sinced she starting eating some food at 6.5months - I thought I was doing well. She loves finger food and lumpy food so why is there a problem? Unfortunately DH says I'm too soft and should follow HV advice!

gingerninja · 22/06/2007 09:51

Amber, sorry your night was like that. I have many like that so can sympathise.

We've got a regular 5 oclock start at the moment and I'm shattered. I went to bed last night at 9.30 I was so exhausted. I dread the clocks changing it'll be 4

Tibsy, with regards to night feeding. We stopped at about 7 1/2 or 8 months (can't remember now) when I felt she was eating enough during the day. I didn't resist and I would have fed her if she was very upset but I just didn't offer iyswim and she never bothered. However, mine does have a dummy to settle so is able to suck herself back to sleep. I suppose your DD is using you as a dummy (in the nicest possible way) and I guess it depends if you're happy with that. If you are then that's fine, if not it'll be a case of trying to settle her without sucking because I would imagine that she's not hungry but is just looking for comfort. Will she go back to sleep if you snuggle up to her? I started off not feeding between 11 and 5 or something then quickly stretched it from when she went to bed because I thought i was giving her mixed messages about when she could and couldn't feed. We're now not feding between 7 ish and 5.30 but I really don't think she takes much at 5.30 because she is ready for breakfast pretty quickly and then more milk by 8.30 so I'm going to try and start the morning milk a bit later.

Tam, good luck for tonight. Hope you have a great time and manage to relax.