The non-sleepers are still not sleeping

[NinaMarieP]

New thread, guys!

I have s KIT day tomorrow so of course LO would wake at 4am and scream the house down. I tried fifteen minutes of trying to settle him before I gave in and decided to feed him. I hate feeding him in the middle of the night now but I couldn't bear the thought of trying to settle him for an hour and then still having to feed him.

It's hot tonight (for here anyway) 21 point something and he was in a 1.5tog bag but I took it off as he felt warm and I'm too hot with my duvet.

Ds seems to be doing ok with the new set up and doing longer (3 hour) blocks of sleep. Hoping it continues. His naps are all over the place though but I suppose you can't have everything. He's just fallen asleep which is really late for a nap, means bedtime will be later

NinaMarie hope your kit day went well.

@flowerpicture it's so hard! DD also had a phase like that, but she was sleeping very poorly overnight as well as terrible naps. Thanks God that's over for now, I remember I was going nuts. It really drives me crazy that the day is gone and I didn't manage to do anything else apart from taking care of her. In that phase that's all I did, didn't manage to do anything else. Good luck and hope it improves quickly

I am the worst parent ever, giving DS a bath and he slipped and went totally under the water! I got him out straight away and he seems fine after the shock had worn off but I feel awful. I can't believe it happened

@Meepmoop don't worry! That's not bad at all! You were there and assisted him right away! He spent 9 months in is private pool, it's not the first time he is "under the sea". My DD has to be bathe with oils and parafin for a long time, she was so slippery, now and then she would slide under the water for a millisecond.
But yesterday something really bad happened. I felt terrible. I was going up the stairs and suddenly she leaned to the side and hit the head on the handrail!!! I was holding her and she is fine with one arm, but she tried to reach it and caught me off guard. My husband came running and then kept mocking me during the day if I had banged her head in other places.... She is fine and doesn't even have a bump. But made so much noise on the wood it really freaked me out. I guess it will be much worse in the future when they start moving around

meepmoop that happened to Ds a few weeks ago, I felt terrible but he was fine after a quick cuddle. He's pulling himself up on everything at the minute so we are having lots of bumps on the head, I'm having to learn not to feel like it's all my fault. We can make things as safe as possible but little accidents will happen, and are part of then learning and growing up that's what I try to convince myself

Thank you! It's just so hard not to worry. I just feel so stupid.
We've already had wake up 1 so all is in order..

I'm struggling so much. I feel totally alone and unsupported. Finances aren't better and I'm now having to fight my corner to stop my husband making things worse by getting a second mortgage to suit his needs. He is not a Dh right now. He is currently looking at holidays, like he's trying to bait me. I can't deal with this.
I love him but he's such a fucking idiot. I feel like an idiot for marrying him.

Christ my 9 month old half drowns himself every bath time

Doesn't matter what we do, he will stand up and climb around etc. And inevitably fall down again. Sometimes face first into the water.

He's bumped his head loads and made his mouth bleed... oh and he's started pooing in the bath more nights than not... he's a flipping nightmare! But he loves his baths.

I feel like I need to join - I've been putting off as I feel it would be accepting my 5 month old is a bad sleeper but I few nights of 3 hours of sleep and never more than 2 hours of sleep in a block since he's been born I think I need to join! Does it get better? Will it ever get better?!!! Also - do sleep consultants work?

Nope it never gets better.

I'm sitting in my living room crying as my 9 month old has decided to go back to night feeds and just will not go back to sleep afterwards even though he is really fucking tired and spends 30-40 minutes lying there hardly able to keep his eyes open.

@idontknow54789 welcome to the group! It would be better that you were joining the "my baby sleeps all night" group but well, at least you will find out there's a lot of mums in your situation. My DD has 8 months. She balances between sleeping poorly, bad, terrible and "I'm going to loose my sanity" stages. She was always a bad sleeper, weaning made it even worse. But, there were very VERY short periods when she got better. It gave me hope. But then the usual returns. People keep telling me that it will get better. I'm sure it will. Not as quick as I wish though. I'm not sure how long it will last, but it will end at some point in time. Even if she will continue to sleep poorly, it will come to a point where she is able to get out of bed and go downstairs to see tv and let me sleep in peace. So I hope you are one of those parents that soon can say "suddenly one night she just slept through, I don't know what I did!" good luck and stay strong!

idontknow54789 welcome, you in the right place for a moan about sleep deprivation! I'm sure it gets better at some point but I don't know when...Ds 7.5months and still not a good sleeper. He sleeps better if we cosleep and has started doing 3 and 3.5 hour blocks again which he hadn't done since before Christmas. Slow progress is better than nothing I suppose but I fully expect it to get worse again. 3 hours is really good for us so I try to be happy with that, when really I would give anything for 5 or 6hours sleep... perhaps lowering expectations helps?

A leader at a baby group I go to always says sleep isn't linear, it gets better then worse then better again -not sure if that's comforting or depressing ....

DS has got tonsillitis... Of course he has. Probably because he knows we were gonna start sleep training this weekend (as advised by my HV as she saw the mess I was in when I forgot she was coming round and I looked like a sack of shit!) so me and DH could be in it together and on the same page. His sleep has been awful the last few days, he is ill so can't be helped but I just feel like it's going to set us back even further as he's been in bed with us the whole night so I could keep an eye on his temp and that. Eurgh. Why is it so hard to get these kids to sleep!!!

@Missonhartbaby babies have a detector "better come up with something before she starts sleep training" definitely not the best time, a lot of cuddles for now and then attack! :p kidding. Hope he gets better quickly!

@bartos they really do! Have you started sleep training did you say? How did it go?

Hi guys, long time lurker but I feel so alone right now that I’m finally posting.

My DD is 11 months next week and has never been a great sleeper but this last week or so she’s been so bad. She’s learning to cruise and standing in her crib at night is her new favourite way of getting mummy’s attention. I’ve been coping with it so far and I thought she was getting a handle on it - had a couple of good nights that have lulled me into a false sense of security. Tonight though she went down fine but woke at half 12 and hasn’t settled since. Every time I leave the room, she cries. When I’m in there soothing her (hand on back and shushing every time she cries) she seems to settle and then her head will pop up and stare at me. I don’t know what to do. All this is compounded by the fact that I’m totally alone in this. My husband works away Monday-Friday so it’s all on me. I’m not strong enough to leave her to cry when I’m sat across the landing on my own crying myself. :(

If I’m honest, I don’t care about how much sleep I get. I can drink coffee and power through tomorrow but she’s going to be such a mess if she doesn’t get some sleep.

Tl;dr DD won’t settle back to sleep and I don’t know how to help her.

milknapplayrepeat welcome and sorry to hear you are having such a rubbish time. No advice I'm afraid but plenty of sympathy and understanding at how difficult it is. I don't know about you, but I find mum's with babies who sleep just don't get it!

Mixed night here. He was up about 5or6times between 715 and 11, then did a 4hour block, then woke every 30mins-1hour for the rest of the night. The block was great but waking so much the rest of the night was exhausting.

Thanks for the welcome and sympathy @mummycuddlessolveeverything. You’re defo right that those with sleeping babies just do not understand. And if my aunty tells me ONE MORE TIME to “just leave her to it and she’ll soon nod off” then I’m going to scream haha (hollow laugh ).

DD eventually settled at 3am after I resorted to Calpol and slathering Anbesol on her gums. No idea if that was what did it or whether it was just a coincidence but was grateful to finally get a couple of hours sleep. I just wish I knew what was going on with her! But at least tonight DH is home so I’ll have a shoulder to cry on myself...

Sorry to whinge! I usually try and approach her bad sleeping and cranky shenanigans with jokes and lolzy Instagram stories for my childless friends to laugh at but today I’m having a total sense of humour failure.

No postings last night, did everyone sleep? We had a worse night than we have been having but was okay with 2 hourly wake ups. DS has started waking for an hour in the night, I hope it's just a faze

Phase not faze (forgetting how to spell now)

For the first night in about a week I didn't have to get up for a feed! He woke at 5 to 7 and for the first time in many weeks didn't want fed right away! He was awake and crying at 5ish but his dad gave him some water and he went back to sleep.

I'm hoping things are starting to improve again now.

@Missonhartbaby I was writing a reply the other day and fell asleep on the chair breast-feeding... I did sleep training when DD did 6 months. 2 very very hard weeks. I was getting physically ill with her crying, feeling nauseated and with headaches. One day she cried 1h10 minutes... I checked on her in periods of time but she realised I would always leave the room and wouldn't even stop screaming anymore. So after 2 weeks it got better, naps improved but night were always bad. No improvement on nights. Then we went on holidays abroad, came back and wanted to restart sleep training but she got a cold. Then we Re-started and she has been very good. But again, naps only, nights with no improvement. Last week we had 3 better nights but that was it, back to usual. These last nights have been bad. Last one was perry thought. Multiple wakings. Cried desperately until I give her the breast. Gave her paracetamol, gripe water, in desperation cause I don't know anymore what's wrong. She does have a lot of trapped wind... But only passes in the morning, overnight just cries. I don't know. I took an antihistamine last night and I'm feeling dosed. It's going to be a long day...

"Pretty hard " stupid phone

@Bartos oh god that sounds awful.. Poor you! I hope DS isn't that bad but I think he probably will be! I've done it couple of times now and then and sometimes he goes to sleep within 20 mins and the other time he screamed for over an hour til I gave in. But I think I need to be consistent. Im dreading it though :( Sleep deprivation is awful isn't it the only way I get sleep is having him in bed with me but it's just not ideal. My OH has been sleeping on the sofa because he's up at half 4 for work and DS wakes him up all night moving around the bed.