The great non-sleepers... continued (again 😴)

[Jellybean2017]

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is six months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep! He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

DS is back in his Moses basket ‘asleep....praying he stays that way . i’m so worried about his temperature that I’m wide awake staring at him!

@lizzlebizzle33 it’s exhausting isn’t it feel like my back and shoulders have seized up...hope you get some rest

DS is now trumping away which i’m hoping signals a return to normal for him! He’s been so upset all night poor little man

I'm going to join you all in the realms of sleep deprivation... have 2.5 week old, during the day she will sleep on me or DH. Then from around 6pm - 11pm she will sleep in the pram out for the count.

We come upstairs for a bum change and feed (breastfed). Started using infacol because she wouldn't burp, despite using all the methods - just possetting or hiccuping; or a vomcano! Burping now okay, and on me she will sleep on her front, or her side or even her back very peacefully.

I try and wait till she's zonked and put her in the crib (next2me). Nope. The minute she goes in I can hear the milk coming back up and gurgling at the back of her throat, despite crib being tilted to buggery. She rasps like mad and starts to majorly fidget. Her legs go nuts and blankets are kicked off, and can't settle so she gets upset and cries. Then I cry because I'm upset that she's upset and also I'm knackered.

We've just had this go on, DH has changed her bum and she's had a 9 minute feed probably more for comfort. Currently now on me fast a kip, DH has also bought up the pram. I shall try that in a bit in the hope as it's more enclosed for her she will sleep.

Hoping it isn't reflux but it might be perhaps? I suffered terribly with it during pregnancy, downing gaviscon liquid and tablets like they were going out of fashion! Have also had non cows milk today and will continue just in case. Also going to look into cranial osteopathy (she was a failed ventouse then forceps baby).

What an essay, but bugger me I'm so tired I've passed dropping off and emerged the other side awake but exhausted!

Glad I could raise a few smiles with my poo story. Right of passage isn't it, having an epic poo tale to relay I suppose.

@sakura if I'm having trouble getting mine to sleep in the pram (and sometimes in his bed) I cover his face with a muslin or comfort toy. If he's wide awake and thrashing it'll come off a few times but eventually it stays and because he can't see anything he falls asleep easier. I look like a shit parent wheeling him about with tigger looking like he's trying to suffocate him but it's worth it for a nap!

discombobulatedwomble and whoateallthepercypigs I'm with you on the stingy eyes and melting brain, I sat in the drs today and realised with DS1 I had NO IDEA about sleep deprivation for mums if babies, he was just so good. Oh how naive I was.

Lizzlebizzle DS2 is also trumping whilst coughing - he's now totally full of it and not enjoying it at all.

On wake up/feed 4 here, which is not bad considering how dreadful DS2'S cold and cough are - it's been a long process each time though so not much sleep happening in between. He's currently sleeping beautifully on me after a feed, I'm toying with the idea of just leaving him rather than transfering but that'll be my night over. Hmmmmm

Well going off in the pram didn't go so well; her little mastermind was hard at work - had a squeak and a grizzle, then bam. Poo explosion. DH up to change her, wide awake and sending cues for a feed and soothe - and where would that be? Back on mummy of course! Mission accomplished!

I transferred, it didn't go well, just as I was drifting off DS2 wailed really loudly. I think it was trapped wind. So he's back on me now proper up.ony legs where he is comfiest but it makes me feel sick. Hopefully can hand over to DH in a bit

On wake up number 6 and DS seems very awake so I think we're up for the day. It's always a rubbish night for our earliest class

And we've ran out of bread and milk for breakfast. Digestive biscuits it is

meepmoop that's a disaster! At least biscuits are a treat for breakfast, I hope you can get some tea or coffee at your class.

Handed DS2 over to DH just after 6 and went back to sleep. DS1 slept until nearly 7! So we're all awake now but later than normal, even having been up loads with poorly DS2 in the night this feels like a win.

Mind if I join? My 5month old ds has never slept well, we have been co sleeping for about 2 and a half months which has made things much easier for me. We've just --barely survived the 4month sleep regression. I had thought that it wouldn't affect us because surely you need to be sleeping well to regress....how wrong can you be!! He was up every 45mins/1hour. Things are better now and he does chunks of sleep (anything between 2 and 4 hours).

I think I'm having a similar problem to some of you...my dh sleeps more since ds was born. Ds feeds to sleep and I feed back to sleep when he wakes up, so because only I can do that(ebf) my dh does nothing at night or day. Nothing wakes him up. In the morning I take ds down stairs and my dh sometimes sleeps for another hour or 2. He works from home and can start when he wants to, he used to get up with me before I left for work.
He had a 2 hour lie down the other day because he 'wasn't feeling great', a few days later I asked if he was busy so I could have a quick lie down because I was exhausted...his answer was that he's always busy!! Not too busy for lie ins and naps, but too busy to let me have a break.

I knew this would be an issue when we started ttc, he has a mh condition that is worse when he doesn't sleep, but I never thought it would be like this. I assumed he would pull his weight the rest of the time.

Sorry for the massive rant, just needed to get that off my chest, and listening to him snoring while I'm awake with ds sleeping on me is so frustrating.

Hope you all had a good night last night and managed to get some sleep

To add, I think my ds would settle without me feeding him sometimes, but I'd end up doing that too so I might as well stay in bed and feed him.

@Meepmoop bread and milk is what mornings are made of! What a disaster 😩 I hope they were at least chocolate biscuits!

@MummyCuddlesSolveEverything you're definitely not alone with the selfish sleeper of a DH, and doesn't the snoring jut make you want to punch them in the face?!
I'm sure my Ds would settle for him with a cuddle and his dummy but he won't even try, ahh sigh.
I just have to remember that I loved him before we had kids, and he hasn't changed its our life that has changed. I just wish he could keep up!

Well it looks like we officially co sleep for now, it's not what I want to do but it seems to be the only way to get any sleep at all even if it's half awake uncomfortable sleep.

Has anybody come out of the other end of co sleeping? Is it really hard to ft them to sleep alone?

@lizzlebizzle33 you're right, life has changed completely, he just hasn't realised how much. When I go back to work he'll be looking after him for 1day a week, perhaps he'll realise then!
I've found I've gotten used to co sleeping, so the little sleep I've had is better quality than it was. I've put ds's cot with the side off next to my side of the bed. He's usually half in the cot half in our bed...it gives him the comfort of me being there, I get a bit more space and don't have to get out of bed when he wakes up.
@Meepmoop no milk for a morning cup of tea or coffee! That's the only thing that makes the morning bearable. Enjoy having an excuse to have biscuits for breakfast though.

Eurgh, morning everyone. Better night last night here, I sent DH back to the other room so it was just me and LO. He woke for times but only needed resettled with a feed twice. I feel like crap, though, full of cold and eyes stinging, you know the score!

MummyCuddlesSolveEverything it's bloody awful having an OH who isn't sharing the burden. Although my OH openly admits I have the tougher job he still considers his work as work and mine as...?? The worst thing for me is that he will mostly do what I ask but I have to explain it all in detail just for him to make a mess of it by winging it and he seems totally incapable of problem solving anything baby related! We have a ten year old and a seven year old so it's not like is new to him. Drives me mad!

sakura sounds like a leap to me. I second a muslin over the face or a cover over the push chair to block out distractions!

Utterly I'm right beside you in silent solidarity!

Tealandteal AIBU to have also developed an addiction to AUBU threads in the wee hours?!?

Hope the check up guess well discombobulatedwomble I know what you mean about the heavy / full feeling. I got that a lot after DDs birth.

Snowing like crazy here!

Grrr, app not paragraphing, sorry!

meepmoop digestives were my go to breakfast in the early days with LO!

cats I just Googled I hadn't heard of Abney & teal! Just love the colour

realist AIBU to hope someone is out there BU so I can read about it?

DS is currently on hour 1.5 of the nap, why can he not do this at night? Up every hour until 2 again

@lizzlebizzle we were full time co sleeping til two weeks ago. He's now in his own cot and room BUT we have done controlled crying. He cries first bit of night (about twenty to thirty minutes during which time we go in and out to reassure him) I feed him a couple of times in the night and 9 times out of 10 I can put him back down asleep. He never let me do that before, ever, and he's nearly 7 months. However, sleep training is not for everyone. I agonised over doing it. However everyone is now sleeping better, so I'm happy with my decision. DS sleeps got 4-5 hour stretches in his own room which he never did when co sleeping so I do feel like I was disturbing him. Anyway sorry for the long ramble!

Thanks @Jellybean2017. Do you have any other DC? I have a 22 mo Ds as well as our 4 mo. I pretty much react to ds2s every whimper right now because I'm afraid he will wake ds1, which would be an absolute nightmare!

Well I cheated and went to mcDonalds and got some breakfast on the way to class. Just got in and it's started to snow and settle. Hope my food delivery comes...

@lizzlebizzle33 I co-slept and stopped when he went in his own room. He seemed to just go in his cot and not wake up. I don't know if it's because I'm sat in the chair and can stand up easy and it's not so far to bend down but I can drop him in now and he stays asleep.

realist they just don't get it. My husband says he can help I just have to ask...I don't want to ask, no one asks me I just do it! apparently my instincts are better. he is really good with ds though, ds's face lights up when he sees him, it's the boring practical things he's not good at --avoids-. Don't know how you manage with 3.

Glad I've found this thread,good to know other people have babies that don't sleep, from talking to people at baby groups you'd think every baby slept through from day 1

jellybean I've been worried I was waking him co sleeping. He's been waking less since he's been more in his cot than our bed (it's pushed up to the edge with the side off). It's so difficult to get the balance and know what's the right thing to do. Glad to hear you can stop co sleeping...I had visions of ds being 5 never having managed to sleep by himself!

@lizzlebizzle I just have DS so I can understand it would be more difficult impossible with another dc in the mix!!

DS is full of the angries today so I've resorted to baby songs on you tube. Not being a very good mummy today

@lizzlebizzle my DD suddenly started to let me put her down in her cot a couple of weeks back and has been waking up only 1 every night.
We only co-slept from 12 weeks until 6.5 months, with the odd stint in the cot which happened rarely.
I didn't nedd to sleep train, so hopefully things will get better for you soon.

So yeah, DD's sleep has been good (I woke her up at 5.30 this morning for a feed cause my boobs were hard!) and naps still terrible.

Thank you all, it is s worry that you will never be able to get them out of your bed. I have s niece who turns 4 in a couple of weeks, still co sleeping 😩
Ds1 asleep on the sofa with dad and ds2 and I just had a 2 hour nap in our bed so I feel a little human again, for now. He lasted 15 mins in his cot so I gave up easily, I will try everyday though.
Need to drag myself out to the shops for nappies though, boooo