The great non-sleepers... continued (again 😴)

[Jellybean2017]

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is six months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep! He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

[lizzlebizzle33]

Wash was meant to say easy sorry, too tired to proof read 😂

[FrozenMargarita17]

So dd's cot won't fit in our room. So sleeping on her floor it is.

I've got this awful tummy bug, I've been home alone with her all day (Dh said that he might be able to come and wfh for the afternoon but no, he couldn't).

He came home near her bedtime. Wound her up, then spent ages trying to move the cot so she had no bath today. Then tried on a new suit. All while I'm sitting there with her in her pyjamas and sleeping bag. He then says 'did you want me to put her to bed?'

Oh noooooo let meeeeee do it since I've been at FULL HEALTH ALL DAY, THANK YOU.

[WhoAteAllthePercyPigs]

Hey guys! Sorry I've been so quiet, this thread surely does move fast!

So sorry to all of you suffering, especially those of you who have been or are ill. It's just awful being ill AND sleep deprived AND having to still be on duty. for you all.

@frozen poor you. I echo everything everyone else has said. Please know you have not failed your baby in any way. She is lucky to have such a caring loving mummy. I'm naturally an anxious person and often ended up in tears at other people's remarks in the early days. You take the fact that they're not sleeping so personally, it's realky hard not to, especially when others are boasting that their sleeoing unicorn baby must be down to their superior parenting skills. A lot of that shit goes out the window with the second child when they realise that it really is the luck of the draw!

You're doing amazingly. Best advice I can give is listen to your gut instinct and your baby. No one else knows her like you do. People say toxic things I think because they are doubting themselves and so it makes them feel better.

Past two nights have been ok. But I've been feeling lousy for a few days and definitely think am in the running to get ill. Sll. All I can do is take my vitamins and drink lots of water..

Spent most of today outside so both DC very tired. So that has meant early bedtime!

[FrozenMargarita17]

It's so sad to see through it sometimes. On more sleep I might be able to say 'oh don't be silly' but on barely any (and poorly too!) it's easier to say oh yeah, it might be my fault..

I feel a bit better now. We've moved dd in to the spare room in her cot, and I'll sleep in there so at least she's next to me and hopefully she will learn to sleep better in the cot.

[Meepmoop]

DS has only had 45 mins of naps today and has taken me over an hour to get him asleep. Not hopeful at all.

DH has disappeared to the pub with his boss. I wouldn't usually mind but DS has been very trying today. It's not his fault but he's at an annoying stage where he is moving but not crawling properly so is getting frustrated.

[FrozenMargarita17]

@Meepmoop my dd is doing the same. Rolling and attempting to crawl and getting VERY annoyed. She does not sit still all day!!

[UtterlyConfused111]

Ok!
So baby fell asleep without her dummy today! Absolutely unprecedented! She was grumbling about it and I couldn’t go to her because I was changing DD1s nappy (she had made a mess). By the time I finished baby had fallen asleep! No dummy!
I’m not sure now whether to push on through now and not give her the dummy for the rest of the night and see if I can wean her off...,

[UtterlyConfused111]

@frozen
Don’t blame yourself. I was very smug about dd1 sleeping; and now DD2, is a sleep thief. They are all different.... and they will sleep when they will sleep I suppose

[FrozenMargarita17]

I really hope she will. We've put her down in the spare room in her cot and so far she's only woken twice which is good! I wonder if there is something that wakes her up in her room.. perhaps t is too hot or something maybe.. unsure. Hopefully this will spur a change.

[lizzlebizzle33]

Just made the most embarrassing birthday cake, it's so bad. You know when you have an image of something in your head and you think "yeah, I can do that" but it turns out you can't 😂

I'm blaming ds2 for it all, it took too long to get him to bed so the cake got over cooked, then he woke up after 5 minutes anyway, shouldn't have even bothered putting him down.
DH had to have him asleep on his chest while I faffed with butter icing and food colouring. I don't know why I bother or care that it's not what I hoped it would be, nobody else gives a crap!

I've had to just bring ds2 straight into bed with me now as he's just not going in his cot and I really need some sleep, no sneaky naps for me tomorrow.

I hope you all have better nights than last night.xxxx

[Jellybean2017]

Feed number one here. Think he only woke up because white noise went off on its own... Hope everyone is asleep
😊

[UtterlyConfused111]

So it’s happening tonight
She woke up at 430 - 6 straight hours. Absolutely unprecedented! I felt refreshed enough to give it a try. So am trying to settle without dummy. Not worked so far.....she’fd stopped crying but started again so going back in now

[UtterlyConfused111]

Ok she has stopped
I’ve changed her nappy and put on the cot mobile and she has stopped but starts again everyone the mobile stops
Not sure I can do this

[lizzlebizzle33]

A whole new low tonight with ds2, he has been fidgeting and rooting all night long, constant on and off the boob, fed so much he's needed a complete outfit change twice.

Next doors kids are up singing and shouting now too and ds1 will be up soon. I just want to enjoy his birthday but I'm already thinking fuck off at today and I feel awful for it. I just want to curl and and cry and be left alone.

I don't feel like I've slept at all. Joe much longer is this going to go on? I don't think I can take much more. Co sleeping is killing me, getting kicked and whacked in the face all night is misery.

I'm gonna need some serious mental strength to get through today.
I've still got that fucking cake to finish yet!

[UtterlyConfused111]

So taking the dummy away was awful.
It kind of started with me thinking “I’ll give it 5 minutes like dh said and if she hasn’t stopped crying I’ll give it back to her” and she stopped crying after 5 minutes which was great
But then she started again and I figured that since I’d already distressed her for 10 minutes I should keep going since then I would have distressed her unnecessarily for those 15 minutes. And so it went on for almost an hour and a half. I couldn’t leave her alone to cry as I think you’re supposed to do so she finally fell asleep in my arms, and resisted all attempts to cot transfer.
Having started I feel committed to going on but I don’t really want to if that’s makes sense...,.!
Somebody told me that if I was going to do this I should keep all the reasons for doing it straight in my mind as my resolve would waiver in the early hours of the mornings.ironically enough I don’t think she woke up for the dummy at all; she slept solidly till 430am and then did a poo at some point around 6ish and maybe that’s what it was that woke her up. In which case she didn’t need the dummy taken away at all.. she’s been doing 4-6 hours for the last few nights so she is reacting well to the solids and now maybe it’s just a matter of holding on till may/June when she is old enough to find the dummy her self in her bed...
And yet I feel like I subjected her to distress last night for nothing though if I back down now so feeling stuck!

[UtterlyConfused111]

It was awful though
Last night I genuinely thought I would rather go through labour again

[onone85]

@lizzle I feel your pain. I cannot take much more, I feel like I'm going insane after last night. He screamed for half hour when I put him to bed and picking him up or going in our bed doesn't settle him once he's started. Then he was awake crying every 2 hours. Every 2. Fucking. Hours!! DH then woke up this morning and said 'he did ok last night didn't he? I only heard him once'.... arsehole.

I have 4 hours off today, he's at the childminder (as I'm due back at work this week and trying to settle him in) and all I want to do is sleep. But I have an interview to prep for, two very poorly family members I need to see child free, the entire uk populations ironing to do and a school assembly for DD.

I'm so close to breaking point it's untrue.

[NinaMarieP]

My LO woke every 1.5 hours from 1am-5.30 and then every 10-20 minutes after that...

Why does he sleep so much better for his dad than me???

[UtterlyConfused111]

Do we need a new thread? I don’t know how to go about it....
@lizzle
You are doing a fantastic job! You’re making cake ffs who cares what it looks like! I have been eating cornflakes and skipping showers - like I said to DH; I’m in war for survival....
So the fact you’re doing a party etc is amazing. You’re great. It’s fine!
@onone85
I know. I had this going back to work after dd1. It’s horrible; having to do everything on no sleep

[NinaMarieP]

The non-sleepers are still not sleepingwww.mumsnet.com/Talk/sleep/3205565-the-non-sleepers-are-still-not-sleeping

New thread

[lizzlebizzle33]

I think it's turned out alright in the end, If ds2 doesn't sleep tonight I don't think there will be any of this left by morning though😂

[FrozenMargarita17]

@lizzlebizzle33 that is AAAAAMAZING!!

[NinaMarieP]

Yep 10/10
Would totally eat that 😂

[lizzlebizzle33]

Thank you! It was worth the tears in the end.
I don't know what hell tonight will have in store, no naps had by anybody so far today! Pray for me.x