The great non-sleepers... continued (again 😴)

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New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is six months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep! He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

Oh dear @Utterly sorry it's a bad start for you, I hope it gets better. Ds1 was never a good sleeper so as much as it it awful with ds2 I'm used to it. I don't think I've slept properly for about 3 years now! I've always been either breastfeeding or pregnant.

So i managed it tonight, I've done both bedtimes on my own. Ds1 goes to bed earlier so I had to leave ds2 thrashing about in the jumperoo for ten minutes while I took ds1 up but it all went fine, thank god.

I just hope I can switch my brain off and by some sleep tonight. A glass of wine sounds like a great idea! I wish we had some, all I have is some very questionable mulled wine from Christmas. Sad face.

Still at my mum’s which mean that we sleep in her living room, last night went okay but tonight is awfulI... I haven’t slept yet tonight, ds had several naps throughout the evening but then woke and wouldn’t settle, in the end I was so tired and keen to get some alone time that I decided to put the mattress from the fold up bed on the floor and have ds sleeping with me otherwise my mum who s a night owl would stay up to keep me company...she eventually got the hint (despite me earlier talking about how I struggle to function on less than 5 hours broken sleep) and went off to her room. Im so annoyed that I have to keep going on about how important it is to me to get to bed at a decent time and she keeps delaying everything and seemed surprised that I didn’t want another cup of coffee at 12.30 am???my mum has alway been my rock and we’re very very close but there s really irritates me. Ds was so wired he just started screeching and babbling while kicking his legs about so I’ve sat down on the sofa to feed in the dark and get him to calm down. Sorry for the rant...

Gosh @Sakura03 that sounds terrible I hope you're ok.

I posted a few days ago about my lump/blocked duct issue.

It's been well over a week and it's shown no sign of letting up.

Boobs are so engorged DS is only getting foremilk and so his poos are green, and he is needing to feed constantly as it's only the waterway sugary stuff.

Poor guy...

I'm super stressed as he won't take formula in a bottle (we tried again tonight)

Not sure where to go from here

Sorry to hear there's been no improvement @cheshire, must be very stressful for you all.

Do you know why he is only getting fore milk? Is he latching off before the hind milk or is it too painful for you to go on?

Have you tried pumping before you feed him to try to get the hind milk 'ready' for him?

Had this with ds1 a few times when he was teething, the green poo is quite upsetting to see but don't think your doing any less of a good job, it just will make it harder because he will want to keep feeding like you said.

Keep trying with the bottles, you never know it might just click one day.xx

I just admitted defeat and took dd in to bed with me when I came up at 11. Too tired to fight all night. Going back to sleep now as have given her to Dh :)

Today I am tangry. LAH is sleeping in as usual; I have a cold and cough and ache all over and DD2 has been awake since 4am and refusing all her bloody feeds (she has a cough for a week that has very slowly been getting better) and poor DD1 who is just being a toddler is getting on my nerves because I have no patience

LAH = lazy AH

@lizzlebizzle33 it's because I'm so engorged, and have an oversupply.
I'm expressing a bit off but terrified I'll make the oversupply worse.

Such a rubbish situation, I never thought I'd be so happy to see a yellow poo! I really feel terrible that it's affecting him.

@cheshire please don't feel bad sweet its not your fault, you're doing the best you can in a difficult situation and I'm sure it will improve soon, he will forget all about.
I hear what your saying about oversupply, I've not had that trouble so I'm not sure how to handle it. I don't think just expressing the fore milk will create a problem though will it?

So my LAH who sleeps on the sofa atm is still asleep on the frickin sofa!! I've done 2 poo changes, breakfast, put a wash on, done the dishes, swept the kitchen, all while entertaining 2 children. He can't possibly be asleep with all that noise, clearly just pretending and being lazy. Doing my head in already!

I'm about to put Justin's house on really loud as he hates it! Ha ha

We had another crap night, I think we are definitely in another regression.

Last night was up every 15 minutes between 12.30&1.30, then every hour (ish) until 4, then every ten minutes until 5 when he did a poo. Changed him, fed him and he slept from 6-7.30... (clocks changed so technically 8.30 but totally doesn't fucking count because we lost an hour!)

Hi,

I have posted on here a few times because I was having horrendous nights with my boy. He is now 7 and a half months. He would wake every hour and refuse to be put in his cot. My friends recommended crying it out but I couldn't do that. I'm not bragging or taking it for granted at all but hoping what happened for us can give another Mum some hope: since we moved him into his own room (and solids) he has slept SO much better.
I read all the books, Gina Ford, Gentle Sleep and googled all night long a solution. We frustrated each other trying to establish day time naps but if he didn't want to sleep then he wasn't going to. The 'shush pat' method helped a bit in terms of learning to settle but I think him being in our room at night we would just disturb each other. Now he's in his big cot he sleeps like a log. If he wakes he can roll and get himself comfy. I do let him sleep on his tummy and he looks really cosy but we have one of those sensor mats that alarms if he stops breathing.
I know he has teething and sleep regressions coming up so I know this might not be set in stone but generally now he is sleeping 19:45-07:30 every morning with one feed around 01:00.

Thanks @lizzlebizzle33

Get Justin's house on asap!

We had been thinking about moving our LO (almost 8m) to his own room soon @k567 but I can't bear the thought of being back and forth all night now that he keeps waking.

My 8 month old has slept in her room since 4.5 months ish and she's not slept through since. Thinking about moving her cot in to our room again!!

I think weaning has constipated DD2 and that’s why she is up all bloody night. She was really enjoying the purée and kept asking for more so I didn’t think there was any harm in it. So today I’ve cut right back on the solids but she is still refusing her bottles. I really don’t know wtf is going on and what to do
On the brighter side DH has redeemed himself. I have a cold and this morning broke down in tears about how horrible life is and how I just can’t sleep in 2 hour intervals anymore. To be clear - 2 hours is on a good day....
He took dd1 off my hands from noon till tea time (she had a nap) and also DD2 for a couple of hours so I managed to have 4 hours in bed to rest and just be child free. I love my kids but it was fucking fantastic
(Excuse all the swearing - I’m really at the end of my rope)

I’m also thinking of throwing money at this problem now. Can anyone recommend good sleep trainers?
I can’t do it myself so I’m going to get outside help

Not too bad here last night, three wake ups and co slept from 6am which was really 5am before the clock change... Now doing bedtime and wondering how tonight will go. Tea and cake to everyone and good luck for tonight...

Aaaaswrhhfjffndidjdhd dd just will not fucking go to sleep!! The last few days have been utterly upside down because of her being ill but oh my god just go to sleep!!

@UtterlyConfused111 I've heard good things about the sleep plans from 'little ones'.
I'm considering investing in a myhummy... I've had Ewan sheep since a few weeks old who was fantastic initially but now just seems to piss off DS.
I'm sat eating a takeaway for the third time this week because I'm so effing tired. The travel cot went in our room last night. I gave up. He only woke up once but was awake crying for 2-3 hrs so not sure which I prefer... being awake for hours listening to screaming but only the once or continuously getting up throughout the night. 😩
Sending big high fives to all u mamas and wishing you a good night..

Thanks @onone85
I will look into it. I’m now hitting desperation...
Not sure which I’d prefer either! I currently have the one who is awake every hour -but the whole bloody night...

Its been nearly 2.5 hours of us going up and down the stairs. She will not go!

All I can think about is my DH and my SIL thinking what an idiot I am because I can't sleep train her. I can't listen to her cry.

DH thinks that she does it on purpose because she wants us there with her.

@frozen
I don’t want to sleep train either - I don’t want to hear her cry. But I am being told there are some gentler methods around that don’t involve crying so I’m looking into those...@onone85 just recommended something as well so having a look. I genuinely can’t do this anymore. I want to run away and never come back it’s getting so bad.....

I've got the no-cry sleep solution. I'm going to start filling in the charts again. The last time I did that she started sleeping through again so I'll try it.

@UtterlyConfused111... my brain just asked me what trainers for sleeping in are... 😳

Good luck @Frozen hope it works again for you.
It does get you down @UtterlyConfused111 but, as hard as it is to see it, I bet you're doing grand.
I've cried solidly for three hours nearly every day for the last week and feel totally useless as a mother. I hate that I don't enjoy DS like I did a few months ago, I feel awful for that. The tiredness, and moodiness that seems to go with it, just has such an awful knock on effect and feel like I completely neglect DD.
I suggested to my DH tonight that we should split up. I actually reached a point that splitting up and sharing the kids would be a better way of life as I'd be guaranteed at least 2 or 3 full nights uninterrupted sleep a week when he had them...