The great non-sleepers... continued (again 😴)

[Jellybean2017]

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is six months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep! He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

[HashtagTired]

Another wake up after 2 hours 25 mins. As predicted. But he did wake up coughing. He had a terrible cough, poor little love.
He's thrashing about like a mermaid (he's in a bag) but trying to get to sleep. He looks sleepy so hopefully won't be long. At least I can lie in bed next to him whilst he does this. Next week he'll be in his own room 😱

[HashtagTired]

I'm board hogging tonight!
Another wake up. 1.5 hour sleep.

Hoping to get another couple of hours in. It is Saturday after all? 🤞

[UtterlyConfused111]

Ffs hourly wake ups since 3am. Not hungry as rejected most of the bottle. Now wide bloody awake. I don’t understand. I might as well start the fucking day. Want to go empty a glass of water over his hungover snoring face - he won’t be awake till 10 and will be sighing from tiredness the whole day

[UtterlyConfused111]

@meepmoop
Any respite?
@hashtagtired
Well done on the napping. And 2.5 hour stretches are not too bad - well, it’s relative! The longest stretch I’ve had tonight is one hour.

Not sure I can do this much longer! Going to start sleep training. Getting the Ferber book...

[xxrealistmumxx]

utterlyconfused so sorry to hear how hard things are right now. I've also suffered from pnd this time round - a total shock as had no issues with my first two, despite the first being a sleep thief! Definitely go see a GP. If they are crap then see a different one. I was doing absolutely everything I could to help my mood except getting enough sleep! but in the end it was the antidepressants that made the difference. After taking them for about two weeks I literally woke up one day and felt like myself again. Definitely get support.


Well despite the sleep training we've had a crappy few nights feels like forever the good news is that LO will self settle after a feed. The bad is that he's now up every couple of hours looking for milk
despite the fact that he doesn't feed anywhere near that regularly in the day.

I'm actually wondering if I've messed up with weaning and maybe he's filling up on food do not taking enough milk as it feels like he really takes little milk in the day now.

What's everyone else's pattern for giving food? Do you offer alongside a milk feed? Before? After? Or I'm between milk feeds? Sorry if off topic slightly but it's coming from a sleep related perspective!!

[Meepmoop]

No respite here, I think I've cobbled together 3 hours of sleep. DS is teething so I'm hoping it's just that and not a massive sleep regression as he was doing at least 1 3/4hour blocks before.
DH is working all day as well so I can't palm him off.

We're off out this afternoon with my mum, brother, sister and her twins to an owl sanctuary so that hopefully make me forget my tiredness.

[Jellybean2017]

We moved house yesterday! So much to do today. DS slept in his cot in his new room from 7-5.30 with 2 wake ups though! Long may it continue.

[Meepmoop]

That's great @Jellybean2017 I hope it continues for you. He must like his new home.

[Emberblu]

Wonderful @Jellybean2017 :)

Sorry you had a tough one @Meepmoop but I always find getting out and doing stuff helps make the day go faster and hopefully your family can take him off you so you at least get a hot cup of tea

Sorry @UtterlyConfused111 Too, hopefully you can find a sleep training method that suits you, your sleep and mental health are so important for your little one

Weird night here... dh put ds down for a late nap at 5 thinking he'd wake in half an hour then it'd be an hour til bath time and then last feed... he slept until half midnight his last feed had been at 3.30pm! Then we had a feed at 4am before another 2 hours sleep until 7! Plus dh got up with him so I even had an extra hour! Not sure what that bedtime was about?!

[UtterlyConfused111]

@xxrealistmum
Thank you! It’s really helping me to hear the support and that I’m not the only one who has/is feeling this way. If antidepressants work I will take them- I am really tired of feeling anxious and lost - will speak to GP.

[AMagdalena]

1 wake up last night at 3.30am. DD did another 4hrs in my bed. I'll take that any time.

Well done baby @Jellybean

[xxrealistmumxx]

Sounds like the babies are doing well on the sleep front for a good few of you! Hooray!

Congrats on your move Jellybean2017 here's hoping LO left the sleep thievery in the old house.

So our LO here has had diahorrea today which may or may not explain the crappy nights. I'm only just on the mend from a yucky virus that started with similar symptoms to LO's so guessing he's got that. Also guessing that the frequent feeding in the night may well have eradicated the benefits of the sleep training. I don't have it in me to go through it again right now so I'll be hanging about on here in the wee hours for some time to come!

meepmoop sounds like your LO is in a great routine for naps.... would you mind sharing your feeding routine please? Third time round and I still feel like I have no clue what I'm doing!! You're right Jellybean being a mum is so much harder than can be imagined!

[xxrealistmumxx]

Can you send your LO over to share her secret with my LO please AMagdalena!?

[xxrealistmumxx]

Can you send your LO over to share her secret with my LO please AMagdalena!?

[Jellybabie3]

Hi all. I've been off this thread for ages. DS is 20 weeks now and has been having a terrible run of 45min sleeps for 9 weeks (yay regression) but has just started to link sleep cycles so am now back to 1.5 - 2.5 hour runs. Whoop!

Hashtag that sounds brilliant RE naps. Did you sleep train DS to self soothe? I'm still koala hugging mine but enjoying some fab crap tv in the meantime

We caved and brought a myhummy in the end....i just couldn't press Ewans leg any more

[Jellybabie3]

amazing sleeps AMagdalena

[NinaMarieP]

We've had a couple of good nights finally, where he's slept for 2-3 hours without any wake ups before his feed and at least 1.5 hours after. This morning he slept from 3.45-6.30 and 6.40-8! And he's had two long (ie over an hour) naps.

It'll probably all go to shit by Monday but I'm enjoying it while it lasts.

[Mummalolo]

May I join you all in sleep-deprived land? I have a nearly 4 year old who, I discovered when our DD came along 10 days ago, is incredibly LOUD in everything he does. (If you watch Hey Duggee, think Roly 😩) Daytime sleeps when he’s around are almost impossible. And nights are so higgledy piggledy, I’ve no idea what to expect from one night to the next. I find the graveyard shift quite gloomy tbh, anyone else find it really lonely?

[UtterlyConfused111]

@xxrealistmum
On the weaning I remember reading the annabel karmel book and it had a meal plan set out for the weaning. I think - I need to go check - that she advocates giving the milk first and then the meal at say 11am/lunch time. I found that didn’t work for dd1 she just wanted to eat, so we dropped that feed fast and she just chowed down her puréed lunch and went for a 2 hour nap after...I think with DD2 I’ll offer solids first and then the bottle and see how it goes. That’s all one can do really - trial and error
@meepmoop
How was the day?
@mummalolo
Welcome! I too have 2 year old dd who emits a high pitched scream like a banshee when I am putting 4 month old DD2 to sleep, after incessant rocking etc
All part of the fun in sleep deprived land

[cheshiremama89]

I've not managed to have a nap today so tonight will be interesting

[Lallypopstick]

My baby is still a crap napper who needs to be bounced or fed for naps, despite being sleep trained for nights. I dream of a baby who will snooze in the pushchair!

[WhoAteAllthePercyPigs]

Hey all, been quiet for a few days. to everyone who had bad nights. Especially @utterly - sounds like you're having a tough time, glad you're going to speak to the GP. You are most definitely not alone.

Congratulations on your new place @jellybean! Hopefully DS will continue to sleep well there!

Welcome back @jellybabie, have seen your thread about the dreaded regression! Really glad you're coming out the other side of it now. DS is 16 weeks and I'm just bracing myself...

Nights haven't been too bad here touches wood. But well aware that could change at any time...

DS rolled over for the first time today! He looked very surprised!

[HashtagTired]

@Jellybabie3 a little bit of sleep training required for daytime naps but also down to his own personality. I would never be able to do this with dd, she never self soothed and we had to go full on sleep training with her. He, on the other hand, is a little easier.

I'd feed him. Then burp him to mainly wake him up gently, then carry him up to his bedroom, lie him down gently whilst talking gently. I'd then deploy EBLL and leave. Sometimes he'd cry and if he went mental I'd go back in, cuddle him to calm him down then try again. If he's whinging then I'd give myself a task to do, like empty and reload the dishwasher and if he's still going I'd maybe pop back, but he's often asleep by the time I'm done. If he's just chatty I'd leave him.

The nap times have been lead by him. I've been tracking on my app so have spotted the pattern and have encouraged the napping at the right times.

[HashtagTired]

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs we didn't notice the regression here. Sleeping was so sparse anyway....