The great non-sleepers... continued (again 😴)

[Jellybean2017]

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is six months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep! He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

[lizzlebizzle33]

Feed number 5 now, and I can hear ds1 stirring 😩 DP gets up fir work in half an hour too. Not feeling very positive about today.

[Meepmoop]

And we're up for the day. I feel very much like a zombie with a sore head. At least it looks like it's going to be a nice day

[lizzlebizzle33]

Same here @Meepmoop I hope your sensible and have some strong coffee in the house, not like me with some stupid decaf teabags 😩

[Catscatsandmorecats]

Well after a hideous night the night before, DS2 was a bit better last night, four feeds and not dreadful to resettle. DS1 slept beautifully and played in his room til his sun came up then told me he was really happy 😍

I got up at half six and went riding after feeding DS2, it's soooooo cold where I ride - it's open and high so I was frozen but it was worth it to have pony time, and so beautiful.

@lizzlebizzle33 and @meepmoop I hope you've both found some coffee now :)

[AMagdalena]

I actually had to wake DD up at 5.30 this morning to change her 🙈 I know this won't last, but oh my, all this sleep has been lovely! Sorry to read some bubs were real sleep thieves.

And...I am currently stuck under a sleeping baby. Obviously.


Had DD weighed today.
Despite my silly diet DD is moving up the centile chart- nearly on the 91st. The HV was also quite supportive of my decision to carry on bf.

[Catscatsandmorecats]

I'm currently stuck under a sleeping baby too amagdalena! I don't dare try and transfer to his cot from downstairs. He wasn't supposed to feed to sleep....

[Emberblu]

never thought of that...

Anyyyyway ds's naps are still crap and he keeps bringing his first wake up forward and hour (then it's downhill from there of course!) which in turn brings his 'up for the day' time forward as well! He's so tired I can tell but still fights sleep so hard! We were at baby massage the other day and one woman couldn't join in as her baby had just fallen asleep... made me realise ds has NEVER 'just fallen asleep'. There has always been feeding shushing and rocking and still he's always fought it... made me laugh --and also cry inside
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Glad to hear success stories of beyond 6 months, makes me hopeful this is all a phase and in a month or 2 we will start to see improvement

[UtterlyConfused111]

@amagdelena
530 wake up?Well done baby amagdelena
It is very good to see some success stories @emberblu
DD2 is 20 weeks so hopefully it gets better.
My family left for good today (they live overseas). I’m really really sad :-(
Wish I had more family here, feeling very lonely and stuck in this motherhood Iark alone. I remember reading in one of the books someone gave me that it’s the feeling of “crushing responsibility” after a baby that often causes PND. I never felt down after having dd2 because of never having that feeling of being overwhelmed which I did after dd1. But since mum said she was leaving, I’ve had the feeling of depression so frequently. It’s almost akin to panic - how will I do it all alone and without her?

She wasn’t around for dd1 but dd1 was unwell in the first few weeks of life and over Xmas two years ago - we had a very bad scare with her - and because of that I guess I find it very scary being alone.

Anyone else feel like that? I look around and I see all these mums who are so confident and laid back with their kids and just sling them in buggies and make it look like no big thing... think there must be something wrong with me to be so anxious.

[lizzlebizzle33]

So ds2 has fallen asleep on our bed after a lying down feed at 7pm, should I wake him up or just leave him? He doesn't normally go down "for the night" until 9pm?

I've not even had my tea 😬

[lizzlebizzle33]

@UtterlyConfused111 it's definitely not just you, I'm constantly checking my boys are still breathing while they're asleep, and they have never had any health issues so Lord know what I would be like if I had has a scare like you have.

I remember feeling really overwhelmed when DP went back to work after ds2 and thinking that I couldn't do it alone, but I did.

You are stronger than you think you are!xx

[HashtagTired]

My first post on this thread.

My ds is 6 months. We've started weaning, only a teeny bit, and he's still not sleeping for more than 3 hours at night (normally 2-2.5 hours) and has 3 x 1-1.5 hour sleeps in the day (morning, after lunch, late afternoon).

He's in his own room for day naps. I put him down awake but tired and he drifts off quite nicely. Or sleeps on the go in the car or pushchair. Nighttime he's in the Snüzpod next to me. He'll be going in his own room from next weekend after another week of day naps in his room to get him used to it.

[Catscatsandmorecats]

Oooh, hashtagtired that's amazing napping, hopefully moving him to his own room will improve the night sleep.

Utterlyconfused I had dreadful PND and anxiety with DS1, I am sure it has contributed to how insecure he is now and I am kicking myself that I didn't get help sooner. Once I did get help I got better very quickly (combo of antidepressants and CBT) but I really needed that treatment to get me out if it. My good friends knew what was going on because I told them but other people who I have talked about it to since said I was the person they thought was coping best and was relaxed with my shit together! I totally wasn't but I must have done a good impression of it, I think it's the same for a lot of us. I'm better with DS2 but after another bout following several MCs I am very aware of the signs of me going downhill. Anyway, I'm babbling on, what I'm trying to say is that I think most people find it hard and have some degree of anxiety, they just hide it. If you do feel you need help there are some excellent services available. You're not alone.

Both boys went down well, DH and I have had dinner and a glass of wine and are watching TV, it's very relaxed. So far so good tonight, I'm not expecting it to last!

[UtterlyConfused111]

@lizzlebizzle
Thank you.... it’s all reassuring to hear
@catscatandmorecats
Thank you too for sharing. I did go to the GP with PND first time around, DH insisted. Our GP practise has around 11 doctors, I ended up meeting with one who was unsure and new and didn’t really want to deal with it. She asked me to come back in a week and then told me the HV would help; and to talk to her, which I did. Dd1 was in a hospital a week later so I was distracted...but the HV promised to visit me once a week but never did and I couldn’t find the will to chase her every week. All in the past now but I did file a formal complaint a year later against the GP, to find out she has quit medicine and “could not be traced”.
Anyway not sure how helpful my GP will be after all that, but I am beginning to feel that my feelings of anxiety are out of proportion - this can’t be right. I will go the GP again.
Thank you

And sorry to derail the thread to PND support; just was feeling a bit lost as alone at home (except for the babies!)

[UtterlyConfused111]

Thank you everyone...
it all really helps :-)

[Meepmoop]

DS is torturing me tonight I think it's his fourth wake up and it's only 10.30. He just won't stay asleep. I can't do another night of this, (not that I have a choice.)

[Catscatsandmorecats]

utterlyconfused don't be sorry - I think sadly anxiety and PND are just made worse or sometimes even kicked off by sleep deprivation, we're all at risk. It is crap your GP and HV were terrible last time, if you don't get anywhere this time you could try looking at the mind website or seeing if a service calked italk is offered in your area, to get help from either you can self refer.

Meepmoop I hope he settles soon for you.

I have done the washing up, got ready for bed and come to bed all in my own time. It is the first time in about a month I've been able to do that. DS2 is sleeping very peacefully next to me. I don't expect the rest of the night to be amazing (didn't quite get DS1'S bedtime right so he might wake) but it has been just lovely to have a normal evening with DH.

[lizzlebizzle33]

Catscatsandmorecats that sounds lovely! I hope that means you're in for a peaceful night.

Sorry Meepmoop, fingers crossed for you settles soon, is he teething?

Ds2 seems to be properly sleeping now, not just a nap. I'm sooo glad I didn't wake him. I'm sure it's due soon though he's been gone nearly 4 hours, wow I should really have gotten some sleep!

[Emberblu]

utterlyconfused you're definitely not alone! Especially with your experience with your first what you're feeling is totally understandable. I feel so anxious and stressed but on days with the worst sleep I am damn right depressed and can be angry and upset for no good reason. I know it's not the same but my family are around 5 hours away and my mum lives abroad so I understand how it is to miss them. Get help if you need it but know you're doing amazing!

[Emberblu]

@HashtagTired that napping is amazing!!!

[Pingu49]

Little one up since 10:30 here... help!!

[cheshiremama89]

Same here @Pingu49

Really struggling with wind with DS
He's only 3 weeks but can't take anymore

Try to wind after each feed for ages

Then he screams if I put him down

[Pingu49]

I've got an 8 month old who has suddenly decided every hour is appropriate to wake 😩.

Hope you get to sleep soon... x

[Meepmoop]

Still no sleep here, DS is on his 7th wake up and is wide awake...

[HashtagTired]

I can't take the credit for ds' napping. He's done that by himself. He's asleep next to me in his pod 😍 after wake up #1.

EBLL if going strong. I'd be lost without that leg. Ewan has really paid off!

Dd was never so good at her napping and would almost never self settle. Ewan didn't do much for her either. How different babies can be!