The great non-sleepers... continued (again 😴)

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New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is six months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep! He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

frozenmargherita17 it is so hard, PND is a bastard even when you're getting sleep, you must try to be kind to yourself. I'm sorry your AH isn't able to support you in a helpful way, keep talking on here, everyone is listening. Hugs.

Bad night so far here, DS2 on his fourth feed, although the first two weeks essentially one feed that he decided to have an hour long sleep in between sides. I know if he doesn't have both boobs he won't go back down for any decent amount of time but I just couldn't get him to take the other one. He's also woken coughing twice. Plus I've just been up with DS1 for an hour, something is troubling him but he can't explain what and I can't work it out, it's something to do with the dark/shadows but he already sleeps with a lamp on so I can't do anything more about that. It makes me very sad when I can't make things better for him or work out what's up. It leads to him be overtired, grumpy and not eating well, which in turn doesn't help his sleep. We need to move DS2 into his own room and do some (gentle) sleep training but I don't know how I'll manage if DS1 is still having disturbed sleep. I'm doing all the right things and he had been improving but now I am at a loss. The stingy eyes and tearfulness had got me.

Can't get DS3 to take the second boob now. I will be up again in no time argh!

After the worst start to the night ds had just slept for 4hours!! I think the last time he did that might have been before Christmas. Really needed that.
Now hoping dh doesn't wake me up later, he sounded surprised I wasn't getting up with him...

😴😴😴😴 what is sleep

Anyone know if caffeine transfers through breast milk? I drank so much coffee yesterday and the baby is sleeping extra shittly tonight/this morning. Whatever.

Still awake, I couldn't go back to sleep I was just waiting for DS2 to wake again. And he has. I haven't slept since half 2 and now I think we"re up for the day 😩

Justanotheruser yes! I've had this too,. I don't think much transfers but certainly some does, I've found it with both boys. I stick to one coffee a day now, or two if I really feel I need it.

Dh's alarm woke me up, he then went back to sleep and started snoring keeping me a awake. Had to wake him up so he wouldn't miss his flight. Then he woke ds up by walking round and finishing his packing. I got ds back to sleep for 30mins but he's now wide awake and I've not managed to get back to sleep. Bloody ah, I knew this would happen but when I get up with ds he sleeps through it and has a lie in. Tangry.

Justanotheruser some does go across but I don't know how much. I've stuck to decaf since I was pregnant and just carried on while bf, I used to drink a ridiculous amount of coffee so swapping to decaf wasn't easy but necessary. God I would a proper cup of coffee right now.

justanotheruser when we die our antenatal classes they said caffeine was one of the few things that could transfer through bf.

I've been awake since 2 with a teething baby, he wakes up 5 minutes after falling asleep

That is clearly when we did antenatal, they were not that boring!

I went and got a microwave packet of rice and ate that.. then came back to bed. Dd slept amazingly... I didn't. Annoyed at myself now !!

Morning all, sounds like it was a busy night for lots of you, I needed sleep so badly that I didn't bother with ds2 in his cot last night, against my own rules he came straight to bed with me. He woke for at least 6 feeds (gah, 5 months old shouldn't need this!) but he settled straight back to sleep each time. My back hurt this morning though.

@FrozenMargarita17 I'm so so sorry you're having such a tough time, you know you can do it though and your Dc loves you so much for everything you're doing, AH is the one missing out.

On my own today with the Dc, dad is at work and I'm glad of it so I don't have to actually ignore him all day ( I'm not talking to him, childish I know) it's so hard to ignore someone!

Hope you all have a nice and nap filled day.cxx

frozendon't be annoyed at yourself, it's not your fault. You're body is used to being awake, I end up waking up every hour even if ds sleeps longer. Also, your ah is so unhelpful and after how he was yesterday it's no surprise you struggled to sleep. Google post partum insomnia...as if being woken up by a baby every hour isn't enough!

Ps @FrozenMargarita17 if I was on a diet (which I should be) and my AH went to get a McDonald's I would smack him round the head with it!!

and diet for you @frozen. And all those who had bad nights.

Well, DS actually slept a bit better last night. But like you @frozen I was awake for a long time- expecting DC to wake at any moment isn't really conducive to switching off, funnily enough! DD woke me again at 3.30 so had to settle her. Getting out of bed to do the nursery run this morning was torture, felt like I was wading through treacle.

Meh, I drink way too much caffeine considering I'm breastfeeding. Doesn't seem to affect him too much...or maybe it does?? I try to stick to 2 cups but on days like yesterday that creeps up to 3. I've sacrificed so much, I refuse to give my coffee up! It's the only treat I get to have, especially as I'm now dieting!

Getting wisdom tooth out later...trying to look at it as a lie down and break from the kids with drugs?!

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs that's exactly what I do when I have a daunting dentist trip, lie back and tell myself it's a nice relaxing break from the kids haha.

Giving up coffee was my far the hardest thing for me to do, i work for caffe Nero so I get free coffee all day sand by God did I take advantage of it!! So giving it up was tough, I blame that for me gaining so much weight, I swapped coffee for bread and cake 😂

@ninamarie and @mummycuddles
Thank you for the solidarity! I’m trying to think back and see if I’m exaggerating but no; during that horrible week of Xmas with pneumonia he didn’t do any nights then either. It took a couple of days for the antibiotics and steroids to kick in and then I was functional; but I remember that first morning I just wanted to die - I woke him and gave him dd1 to feed breakfast too (otherwise she would’ve gone hungry) and thankfully baby slept with me for 2 hours. It was the best sleep of my life!
The cough took ages to pass because I never got enough rest but it finally has. @nina I’m glad your DH is so good and letting you get the rest you need to recover. And thank you for raging on my behalf - my rage has kind of burnt out to this dull resignation and get on with it feeling...

@frozen
I meant to say more last night but kind of fell asleep mid message. I see lots of messages here for you; it absolutely sucks to feel alone and the way you were last night. I don’t know the right things to say but I have also been there and I know it’s very tough. Hang in there; it gets sooooo much easier as they get older and lots of support here for you too

@lizzlebizzle33 thank you for your lovely messages.

Usually when he says he'll get McDs I say that's ok I'll eat a ready meal or whatever but last night he was getting it specifically to avoid me I think. But by doing that he left me on my own, with no dinner, when I'm feeling really upset. It's not great.

I love Caffè Nero. It's my favourite coffee shop. I would have a real problem if I worked there.

I was awake half the night thinking 'was that her?' Dh didn't come to bed til 4am after I'd text him saying 'are you coming up?' If I know he isn't coming up I'll sleep whatever but if I know he is it's like my body waits for him as well as baby??

I managed to express 5 oz from my left boob when I was up in the night, ds didn’t wake but my goodness is he noisy. He seemed quite unsettled and cried in his sleep a couple of times. We’re setting his cot up this weekend as he keeps hitting the sides of the carrycot it makes such an annoying noise (which I think only I hear🙈). I really struggled falling asleep once I’d finished expressing and after an hour we’ve up for a feed, all in all the night wasn’t too bad.

Ffs AH woke DD up at 1am looking for her in our bed (she was in the travel cot next to me)!!! It's not the first time either!

Why why why

Today was supposed to be a nice day, baby cinema with my sister, get ds weighed then lazy night in just me and ds while dh away.
Instead my car wouldn't start, late to the cinema (was great though), ds putting weight on well, call aa and get car to the garage, walk home, realise I've left house keys in the car at the garage! Currently walking back to the garage.
I really hope ds sleeps tonight, I don't think I can take much more. Sorry for the rant!

lizzle I used to be a barista, I used to drink a lot of coffee but free (great)coffee meant I was drinking a crazy amount.

frozen can't believe your ah did that to avoid you. I really don't have any words!

Fingers crossed for a good night for us all. If ds could manage another 4hour stretch that would be great!

I've just been brought a bunch of flowers by a very sheepish DH...

What did you see @MummyCuddlesSolveEverything ?