The great non-sleepers... continued (again 😴)

[Jellybean2017]

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is six months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep! He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

I broke and took her in to the spare bedroom and she went to sleep. I just want to sleep in my bed. For a whole night.

I can't do controlled crying. My husband and SIL are pushing me to do it. I just can't.

I wonder what sleeping through the night feels like ...

Anyone eventually get the baby to sleep and then can’t sleep at all themselves ALL NIGHT
got work alarm going off in 2hrs. Why do people have children !?!?

So after Ds' "big sleep" we were up every hour after that, he was so squirmy and unsettled, I'm Tangry this morning

frozenmargaritas if you don't want to do controlled crying don't. Why is dh ah
pushing you to do that, if he thinks that's the answer why doesn't he do it?!?
With a baby that won't stick to a particular routine a friend of mine always says the hasn't read the books.

*notmorewashing all the time! I often find that I get ds off to sleep but seem to have woken up myself, then fall asleep 10minutes before he wakes up again.

Ds had a good night I only remember him waking up 3 times it's possible he woke up more but I'm blanking that out of my memory. His napping yesterday was awful so I thought we were in for a bad night.

Sorry so many of you had difficult nights, I hope today (and tonight)is better for you.

@jacobsgirl I don't know :(

@MummyCuddlesSolveEverything I think he thinks it'll solve all my problems. He said he would help but he doesn't do any night wakings so how can he help? I'd be left to do what he started.

@frozenmargarita
@ninamarie
@lizzle
I thought I was the only one inflicted with the dummy fear! The thump as it falls a few cm onto the mattress! Good to know I’m not alone on this...,,

@jacobsgirl
Makes one wonder why the world is overpopulated hmmmm?
@mummycuddles
Do what is right for you. Sometimes because of having two I have to let DD2 scream for a minute or two (example if dd1 has fallen down or is in the middle of nappy change) and even that minute wrenches my heart. Controlled crying is not for me; I’d rather be waking up and giving her the dummy 3000000 odd times at night.....and the dummy dropping and sleeping is getting better as time goes by. But that’s me.... and my baby isn’t too bad. If YOU want to do it then go for it but if your heart isn’t in to start with then you won’t manage.... (.or get a sleep trainer in...!)

Sorry that was meant to be @frozenmargarita re the cc!!!

It is the loudest/quietest noise in the world!
What are I out opinions on naps ladies? Keep them the same time no matter what time they wake up or adjust them to suit waking hours and nap length? Hmmm

Here's my 2 Ds for you all anyway, ds1 wouldn't get out of bed this morning so I put ds2 in there with him thinking he would want right out but he didn't! Breakthrough, he loves him after all!

Have a nice day people.x

@lizzlebizzle33 I've started going by awake times.. because when I was trying to get her to nap at certain times, she inevitably wouldn't nap, or would wake up after 20-30 minutes so wasn't getting enough sleep during the day, & was a screaming overtired mess come 4/5pm!

Now I just try to rock/feed her to sleep (depending on if she's hungry) after she's been awake for about an hour & 20 minutes (she's 14 weeks) and I can usually get her to have at least a catnap each time which so far seems to have fixed the evening screaming problem fingers crossed!

Gorgeous boys! DS1 looks like Avery cheeky chappy!

I go by awake time too, plus signs of tiredness.

At the moment we are at around 2 hours awake time before a nap is needed but sometimes it's only 1 hour 40 and he's grumpy and rubbing his eyes.

We don't do any kind of routine in fact. He feeds when he's hungry (around every 3 hours during the day), sleeps when he's tired... meals are squeezed in between feeds and naps and sometimes skipped entirely if no opportunity is found.

He gets a bath whenever he's truly mucky or we realise it's been a week (or more!) since his last one.

Sometimes he naps at 4/5 and is then goes to bed at 7, other nights he naps at 6 then is up until 9... we just go with the flow

In some respects it's great as I can pretty much leave the house whenever, and not worry about 'missing nap time' etc, on the other hand I can never make definite precise plans until the morning as I won't know when he'll need fed/naps, and it can change throughout the day.

If he wakes at 7 I can estimate he will nap at 8.30, but if he wakes at 9 the next nap will be 11. Or if he doesn't wake until 10 then he'll nap at 12...

Thank you, ds2 is almost 5mo and his naps are hit and miss, he was up today at 7 and I couldn't get him down until 10.30. He's been asleep half an hour now and I think I can hear him stirring, but he's in his own bed at least so I get my arms free for a cuppa and a cuddle with ds1.
I don't like to leave him on his own and I know it's not recommended until 6 months but he will not nap otherwise and it's what the health visitor told me to do.

@DiscombobulatedWomble ds1 is the meaning of the word cheeky, he's lovely and funny but also a little bugger 60% of the time!!

How old is your LO frozenMargharita? It's absolutely awful when you get to the stage where you literally don't feel like you can go on.

We seem to have gone backwards here a bit and have taken to using the dummy again in the night
I'm too exhausted to deal more effectively with his wakings and I know it's not due to hunger as if he had more than one feed he just has a couple of sucks and nods back off.

I'm still exhausted from not having adequate time to rest and recover from the mastitis. I feel like I can feel the beginnings of it flaring up again but with three children to take care of and OH away there's not exactly time to rest! This is the first time since LO was born that I feel like I'm beginning to go under. It feels like no matter what I do, even when I don't stop all day, there's still more to be done! To top it all I've had to cancel my trip to Edinburgh next month. I was soooo looking forward to some child free time

Sakura I hope you get to the bottom excuse the pun of LOs bowel issues. Hopefully cutting out dairy will do the trick. Must be so distressing to see blood in the stools.

Well, there goes another week. Here's hoping for a good weekend all round!

@xxrealistmumxx she's 7.5 months. She's poorly today, feels really warm, flushed cheeks, breathing a bit fast and cold hands. Thermometer says she's only 37.2,, Not sure what to do! Wondering if this is why the last few days have been hell. Although she never slept properly before either.

Ds has been more upset than usual today, he's usually so happy but has been crying lots, wanting cuddles, etc. I think it might be teething...He's been teething for ages and has 4 that I can see just under the surface. Hopefully that won't mean a bad night.

Not a great start here - ran out of clean sleep suits so I was annoyed, dh didn't help so I got more annoyed. He said what did I expect him to do magic one up. I said of course not but that it's annoying and that I'm usually on top of things and. His answer sums up why he doesn't do more...apparently I am usually on top of things, organised and a good mum. It was great to hear he thinks I'm a good mum but he can get away with doing nothing because I'm in top of it all. I really worry about when I'm back at work.

Hope you all get a good night, fingers crossed!

@ninamariep
It all depends on personalities doesn’t it... I really don’t think I could do that, I’m too much of a control freak. DD2 does scheduled naps, at 9am, noon and 430pm, goes down like a little robot. Her daytime sleeping is wonderful, her night time is all over the place. And yes, it is quite restrictive in terms of I can’t do/go things because of disrupting her naps... but I like knowing when she is going to nap so I get stuff done like having a shower or laundry etc
@lizzlebizzle
What a pair of cuties!!

@Sakura I am really sorry to read your LO is having blood in poo. We're in the same boat. I have cut out top 6 allergens.
After nearly 3 weeks of no visible blood, I gave DD some porridge and here we are again. Really fed up! If you need some support, feel free to message me. I know first hand how distressing it can be.

DD woke at 6am this morning, but was very unsettled at the beginning of the night. I think separation anxiety is kicking in. Once again, I am the only one who can soothe her at bedtime.
I feel sorry for DH. I had gone to the loo earlier on and could hear DD get upset in his arms. As soon as she saw me, she had started smiling and tears stopped.
I secretely loved it, though!

Also, @Nina, we're exactly the same. No clear routine and I prefer it that way.
To be honesylt, it makes sense. I like to eat when I am hungry and sleep when I am tired the fact the latter doesn't work that way is a different matter

DH asked what I wanted for mother’s day. I said I wanted him to do the dream feed at 1030pm and breakfast for dd1 the next day at 730am....
He looked at me and said that’s tough.. dream feed AND breakfast?
I just looked at him and said “I do it every day....”
He didn’t say anything more... !
Let’s see

I think if I had a routine I would just get upset when he ballsed it up, and believe me, he would do that at the first opportunity!

NinaMarieP we are exactly the same. I work out from when ds wakes up when he might start getting tired, then look out for signs he needs a nap. Just when I think I've got it figured it changes. It means we can do whatever we want in the day and he is quite flexible. He'll nap anywhere (apart from a cot!)

utterlyconfused 2 whole feeds....how could you?! Perhaps what you said will make him think more about what you do.

Had to take dd to urgent care because of temp. She's still a bit warm but we're using Calpol and ibuprofen alternately. Arghhhh. She's just gone back down. This could either work really well or make it worse.