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Non-sleepers unite...

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Jellybean2017 · 18/01/2018 22:40

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is five months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

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Meepmoop · 21/01/2018 21:24

Top tip: when doing the transfer make sure you have control of their head. Apparently bumping their head against the mattress will wake them up...

AMagdalena · 21/01/2018 21:26

@user Keep going to your GP until they refer you! That's what it took for them to refer us. Tell your GP about the impact of your LO's health on your mental health.
I find astonishing how GP's experiment with babies' health as they rarely have enough experience! In our case, they have just wasted NHS money, my DD's health and our time because they referred us in the end anyway.
We are finally seeing a specialist on Thursday. DD will be a few days shy of 6 months old and we have been going back and forth to the doctors since she was 8 weeks old.

Tmgc123 · 21/01/2018 21:33

@lallypopstick she’s had one wake up, and went back down without a feed, awake, and took herself off to sleep. Not as easy as I’m making it sound, but it’s all pet of the process.

What I do like about the Cheshire baby whisperer is that you can keep in touch with her if you pay for that package and she talks you through what to do. Really really helpful (obvs not at 4am but in the evening)

Hoping we don’t have as many wake ups tonight but I am expecting plenty. I have faith it’ll eventually work!!

user1489931797 · 21/01/2018 21:47

Thanks so much everyone just needed to check I wasn't being over sensitive appreciate the support x

Cariad1988 · 22/01/2018 00:56

Ok I spoke too soon. Back to every hour. Urg Confused

Sakura03 · 22/01/2018 02:47

Checking in... ds’ third wake up but I take the blame as I didn’t realise that his sheet was wet due to spitting up, only noticed it when I just put him down and couldn’t leave him with his head next to this very wet spot which he’d definitely touch once moving a bit and he wiggles a lot in his sleep! But he’s just fallen asleep again so I’ll give it another go (and he’s got a fresh sheet on his mattress).

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Jellybean2017 · 22/01/2018 03:06

Wake up three. Just going off again I think. I hope!

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UtterlyConfused111 · 22/01/2018 03:20

@user1489931797
Definitely not. We had to jump up and down on our GP to get a referral - we kept being dismissed as “babies do get sick and vomit you know”, even though dd1 was vomiting after every feed, every day and losing weight. It’s only that we have DD2 who is - touch wood- reflux free that I realise how bad it was with the first. I was made to feel paranoid and it was never that. Stick to your guns; see a specialist and hopefully get some better and more tailored advice

UtterlyConfused111 · 22/01/2018 03:23

Ffs why has she suddenly taken to pooing 7000 times a day?!

user1489931797 · 22/01/2018 03:34

Thanks @UtterlyConfused111 I feel I'm a level headed objective person and I know being a First time mum everything will seem scary etc but I really don't think it's normal to have such few moments a day that baby us content not be sick/spit up so frequently and cry so much

I agree it seems others and GPS too quick to just be dismissive and patronising 'babies are sick''babies do cry' err yes I know that thanks!

It's heartbreaking to get flashes of the happy engaging baby he wants to be which is consumed by the discomfort that he is experiencing. 😞

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 22/01/2018 04:31

Bad night here. Woke at 1 and it's just been non stop since. Stupidly tried for a cot transfer at 3, he slept a bit but then woke crying and now he's wide awake. Ffs. This is relentless! And DD will be awake in a couple of hours if the last few days are anything to go by...

I'm not sure what is keeping him awake. He just gets so worked up and I've no idea why!

@user def push - doctors are way too quick to dismiss your concerns. When I spoke to the health visitor about DD not sleeping she referred me for counselling. Er not really the help I was looking for??

Zampa · 22/01/2018 04:39

I've had 6 hours sleep so far tonight! I'm thrilled! (Sorry to boast - it just makes up for last night).

We both went to bed at 2045 and DD2 slept for 3h30 and then 2h30.

Attempting second put down now ...

Tmgc123 · 22/01/2018 04:52

Wake up 3... so much better than the last few nights. She wants feeding every time though. I swear she eats more st night than the day!

Meepmoop · 22/01/2018 05:08

Feed 2 done complete with poonami. He's now wide awake with the nappy change...

highinthesky · 22/01/2018 05:11

Lol I don’t miss the poonamis. But I am bugged that I haven’t slept all night, I just feel so wired.

Meepmoop · 22/01/2018 05:16

And now he's been sick everywhere!

Tmgc123 · 22/01/2018 05:23

Although it’s been over an hour and she does not want to go back to sleep. We have a small motorbike that comes past every morning and is disgustingly loud, wakes her up.
Counting the time until he goes past.
Obvs the police won’t do anything and can’t report to environmental health cause the number plate is (illegally) invisible.

Catscatsandmorecats · 22/01/2018 06:56

tmgc123 DS2 is the same, feeds far better at night than in the day, apparently it's a thing that you can't do much about before 6 months according to HV and breastfeeding clinic lady.

We had four feeds and DS2 took a little bit more settling after each because of his cold but I did get sleep in between. Other than when DS1 woke up. He was good though, back to sleep quickly and easily. DH was not so good, slept through everything and DS2 needed resettling when I came back in from DS1, fortunately he went back off easily too otherwise I'd have been looking for my spade!

I think we're past the worst of the cold so fingers crossed it'll be mostly gone when we go away on Saturday.

Haven't read much of the book, I was barely awake feeding last night!

Zampa · 22/01/2018 07:04

Hubris ... DD2 did not want to go back in her bed and so I've been awake since 0350 ... Might as well start the day now as she's decided to wake up.

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Jellybean2017 · 22/01/2018 08:57

Bit better here last night. Had a few good stretches (1.5/2 hours 🙈) someone's car alarm went off at 6.30 😒 managed to pat him back to sleep only for it to go off again at 7 😡 then it was game over. First nap in progress so haven't bothered getting up yet!

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WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 22/01/2018 09:07

Ha @zampa that happened to me a week or so ago- good long sleep but then that was it for the day!

Early start from both DC deciding 7am was a good start to the day. Got a plsydate this morning so need to sort the house for that, but DS would not be put down and kept wailing, which means not much has got done! He's now asleep in the sling and I've given in to DD's plea for teletubbies- play date not till 10 and I'm bloody exhausted!

Those with two small DC to look after- how do you manage when you have a Velcro baby?? It's so challenging to do stuff for DD when DS just wants to be in mummy. The sling is an option but it hurts my back. I guess I just have to put up with it and hope he is happy to spend more time off me!

It is going to be a very long day...

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 22/01/2018 09:08

On not in mummy...although possibly that too Grin sometimes I wish I could stuff him back in so I can get things done...

Tmgc123 · 22/01/2018 09:15

@catscatsandmorecats how do you stop them drinking so much at night? She had a full feed at midnight and 2, if I’d given her one at 4 she wouldn’t have been awake and screaming for so long, but just gave her two minutes on the boobie to calm her (didn’t work!)
She’s 6 months in less that two weeks. X

Emberblu · 22/01/2018 12:01

Ergh been trying to get ds to nap not on me for the past 3 hours. Also doing quicker put downs to try and teach him to settle himself to sleep before 5 months when their sleep cycles change again. He is having none of it. We had one stint of 20 minutes but every other settle and put down resulted in either instantly awake or 5 mins max. I've given up and currently bouncing him in sling.
Do I keep trying this week as I promised myself perhaps getting no naps and a very grumpy baby or have him nap on me and bounced to sleep but risk some 7 wake ups a night in a few months if he can't settle himself back to sleep? I would also love to get stuff done while he naps! They are max hour long but I can't do much with a sling on without waking him anyway. Grrrrrrr screams silently

xxrealistmumxx · 22/01/2018 14:56

Sorry to hear about the crap nights but good news for the couple of you who managed to get a little more sleep than usual

Same old story for us last night. Def tummy trouble that keeps waking LO up. Just wish I knew what exact so we could address it stop losing my mind

umberblu honestly? I'd give up for now and try again in a few days / week. In my experience there's a window when babies change where it's easier to direct them. At this young age it's not likely to work til LO ready so I'd say don't push for it every day / nap jus't keep giving it a go now and then. Then pounce when it works! Also, I know it's easier to say than do but don't stress about what might come. Every baby is different and you could sail through a transition / leap.

Sakura big fan of avocados here too! Your snacks sound yum and very nutritious. My latest fave snack is beetroot and walnut hummus with oat cakes - yum.

user I second what everyone else is saying - keep pushing the GP.

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