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Non-sleepers unite...

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Jellybean2017 · 18/01/2018 22:40

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is five months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

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yolkybokey · 20/01/2018 13:28

@Lallypopstick I think drowsy but awake is a myth for most babies!!

DS woke up for a feed every hour from midnight last night. Luckily DH was able to take him this morning so I got a couple of hours lie-in.

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Jellybean2017 · 20/01/2018 16:04

That's great @sakura 😊 nice to have a good night at the weekend too!

Ours was rubbish but got two hours on my own this morning!

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Jellybean2017 · 20/01/2018 16:05

Drowsy but awake is definitely a myth for us!

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xxrealistmumxx · 20/01/2018 18:04

Never met any mum who could put their baby down drowsy but awake and have them settle themselves to sleep. Think we're set up to fail at that one!

Had a pretty good day. Grand parents have taken the older two for a sleep over as DH is away. Because they're so much older I never think of it being hard work to have them here but it has been sooo much easier without them! Just have to get through the witching hour solo, which is no fun

Great to hear that the osteopathy worked Sakura

Tmgc123 · 20/01/2018 18:27

I’m
Trying the Cheshire baby whisperer. Starts with day naps and do bedtime in a few days. So far she’s had two day naps one in the cot and hasn’t been fed to sleep, which is our problem. But I really can’t go through many more nights like we’ve had lately!

xxrealistmumxx · 20/01/2018 19:50

Tmgc curious to find out how the whisperer works out. LO 5 months here, doesn't go longer than 1.5-2hrs, doesn't feed to sleep though. My other two did and I thought it was a problem because all the books day it is but it wasn't in hindsight. Actually wish LO would feed to sleep as it makes more sense routine-wise for me. Anyway, really I guess it's just rubbish having a crap sleeper, full stop!

Catscatsandmorecats · 20/01/2018 19:55

Hahaha - drowsy but awake!! DS2 did this until he became aware of stuff and now fights sleep because he has serious FOMO. DS1 never did that.

We are all still full of cold which means DS2 has napped and fed badly today. DS1 went off to sleep again well but his cough will no doubt wake him so one of the breaks between feeds will be taken up with him at the least. Everything aches, I had about 3 hours at most last night in little dribs and drabs and I have the concrete eyes. Just feeding DS2 in the hope he'll go down in a minute and I can too.

Good luck everyone for tonight, I hope it's better than last night was for most of us

Emberblu · 20/01/2018 20:10

Ergh yes drowsy but awake is definitely a myth lol 😂 if ds isn't completely dead to the world then he is wide awake once he hits the mattress lol

For those with input downable babies ds was the same until 6 weeks old. In the end I had to sleep propped up a bit with him on me as it was the only way to rest, then nap properly in the day if someone else is around. It's not the safest but it was a last resort... what may have worked was my soft dressing gown in the Moses basket plus white noise ... or he may have grown out of it 😂 either way there is hope and be brave and keep attempting those put downs when you're feeling up to it!

Starting the night shift alone. In a London hotel as we were visiting friends and dh has gone to a birthday meal too. A busy day meant not much napping so in a bit nervous for tonight:s

Emberblu · 20/01/2018 20:20

Also lo used to feed to sleep, now must be rocked, bounced and shushed to sleep which is exhausting! I'd love to go back to feeding to sleep haha, but I suppose it's worse in the long run? I wouldn't know...

Tmgc123 · 20/01/2018 20:21

Will let you know how we get on... she’s already awake tonight for her first wake up and dad is up there trying to calm her. I do feed to sleep and the problem is she wakes up every hour or so, and won’t sleep from midnight onwards.

Can just hear her SCREECHING, it’s hell.

UtterlyConfused111 · 20/01/2018 20:22

@tmgc and @lallypopstick
When DD1 was 12 weeks she needed to go on a regime of beta blockers; we had to have her heart monitored every two weeks and we had to give her this medicine every 8 hours with a feed of no less than 90ml each time. For a year. We couldn’t be late or early with the feed and med; any deviation could cause loss of blood pressure and possibly coma in extemis. Yup. You can guess I was an obsessive clock watcher. I fed and napped her like a robot. That’s all over now thankfully but we found out that the strict routine worked for her and for us....she is fine now. She started sleeping really well after the routine kicked in properly.

So getting to the point I’ve started implementing a routine of sorts with DD2. She can stay awake 2 hours; so she naps three times a day (1 hour, 2 hours, 1 hour respectively) and it all goes like clockwork. I leave her in the cot and she goes to sleep on her own.

During the day. The whole thing goes to pot at night. She goes down easily and sleeps from 630pm, we do a dream feed at 1030pm and then she wakes up at 130am and that’s that. Then it’s a sh1tfest after that.

So why don’t I sleep from 630 after I settle her? Dd1 goes down at 730 after I’ve settled DD2.. Then I get dinner sorted and feed DH for 830... and then we eat... and so the evening goes and I do a dream feed at 1030; lasts 20 minutes and then I get my sleep till 130, or whenever she wakes up....the principle behind this whole thing was if you have an OH who can do the 1030 feed then you get a few hours of sleep before the fun begins in the middle of the night :-)

Anyway, that was my 2cents on routine. It’s very restrictive but during the day at least it helps me to know when DD2 is going to be sleeping so I can do stuff/laundry/feed the toddler etc

I just wish she would sleep at night but hopefully that will come too....

Emberblu · 20/01/2018 21:22

Welp, royally fudged up the transfer to his travel cot, it's just so low down! Feel I may be trapped under him until dh gets back...

Just ordered an electric pump ( I put it off as we can't really afford one but found a cheap one with good reviews) in a last ditch effort to increase my supply and improve let down as I want to continue breastfeeding but every feed is a battle at the moment!

Anyway do I dare make another attempt? Sigh...

xxrealistmumxx · 20/01/2018 21:35

Eurgh , already two wake ups with LO writhing and yelling out. Had to pick him up and try to get a burp out. Can hear his insides grumbling and bubbling :( always the same no matter how well he winds after a feed......and it goes on alllll night.

Might catch half an hours rest before the dream feed kicks the cycle off again..

Hope you LO starts sleep emerblu

xxrealistmumxx · 20/01/2018 21:36

*stays asleep that should say

UtterlyConfused111 · 20/01/2018 22:11

Third wake up here...night hasn’t even properly started. Going to be a long one I think.
Waiting for a burp...

Tmgc123 · 20/01/2018 22:24

Just spent two hours getting her back to sleep, with the whisperer texting me which was really amazing. She had a tiny feed but didn’t feed her back to sleep.
It was really really hard, but she’s now asleep. Hopefully you won’t hear much off me tonight but I’ll let you know how it’s goes x

Cariad1988 · 20/01/2018 22:40

Hi everyone. Joining in on the 'fun'. Starting routine again after everything has been up in the air since Boxing Day with travelling to family etc. DP is away 2 weeks in Peru so it's all on me. Just dealt with first wake up. Really don't want to give in tonight and bring DD in with me like I have the past week. X

Tmgc123 · 20/01/2018 22:58

Already awake!! Allowed to feed but not feed to sleep. Hopefully not another two hours...

DiscombobulatedWomble · 20/01/2018 23:16

Evening everyone, LO is asleep & for some reason I am not Hmm

For those of you who feed to sleep, how do you deal with burping them?? DD feeds to sleep, but then wakes up when I'm burping her and it then takes aaaaages to get her back to sleep. I tried not burping her but she was in so much pain later that night/morning I felt terrible!

actino · 20/01/2018 23:28

@DiscombobulatedWomble, I'm curious to know how that works as well. I hate how I can feed her and she's asleep and then I have to wake her up and piss her off fire winding.

Sakura03 · 21/01/2018 01:01

We’re on feed #1 here after just over an hour’s sleep so last night was obviously a one off... I feed to sleep and don’t burp ds once he is asleep as if I did I’d never get him to sleep. Otherwise burping is really important for my ds as he’s got a bit of reflux.
Got him some new body and sleepsuits today half price at John Lewis now just need to wash them.

Tmgc123 · 21/01/2018 01:04

Since quitting all
Dairy in my diet my LO hasn’t needed burping any more.

ANOTHER wake up...

Sakura03 · 21/01/2018 01:05

the wonderweek app is it worth getting it?

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Jellybean2017 · 21/01/2018 02:00

@sakura I think the wonder weeks app is good, it's nice to read the signs and abilities you can expect and look out for.

Burping - I don't do this in the night either so can't help there, sorry. DS is nearly six months though so he's not so bothered by burps now.

Think this is wake up 5, so tired and he seems to be up every 45 mins. Hope everyone else is having a better night...

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Tmgc123 · 21/01/2018 02:52

Awake again...where is everyone else?? This is wake up 5 also.

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