Non-sleepers unite...

[Jellybean2017]

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is five months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

Hi all. I've also been away for a while but am popping in. DS is 15 weeks tomorrow and well and truly suffering from the 4 month sleep regression. He now wakes every 90min or so through the night, isn't happy sleeping in his bed anymore - waking instantly after being put down, won't feed or nap well in the day. But the worst is the grizzles - constant whining and grumping. Its relentless like a bad violin. Last few mornings he has started this at 4am for 2-3 hours before getting so tired he becomes hysterical. DH left for work an hour early this morn as a result.

Off to his first swim class in an hour - say a prayer for me!!

I have a poorly baby full of cold :(
How can I help my little sleep thief?

@Jellybabie Afraid to say 4 month regression was about the same for us. That's when we started co-sleeping.

Checking in!
DS is nearly 6 months and will sleep maximum 2 hrs in one go at night, hates his cot. He spends half the night with us and, im ashamed to say, sometimes a couple of hours in his bouncy chair when I'm feeling particularly desperate. He's just cut his first 2 teeth so I was hoping for an improvement once they broke through. Alas it was not to be. I'm struggling a bit and also with DH who reckons he's just as tired as me

@AMagdalena I used a Calpol plug in when DS was full of cold and that really helped. They also sell vapour candles in poundstretcher which we lit in the evenings.

@amagdelena
What helped for colds was
Raising the end of the cot a little bit
The calpol plug
Vicks in a bit of steam
Steamy hot shower on when doing bath
Calpol
And ... generally will be done in 1-2 days I hope worst is behind you soon!

The calpol plug ins are great. You can also get saline nasal sprays which clear the snot out.

@AMagdalena Yeah i had to hold him this morn. Bless him.

Urge I hate burping too. Ds tends to scream and thrash the whole time too

So he barely took anything the 2nd feed then was up 45 mins after put down. Dh was up and tried to get him off to sleep but no. Tried another feed but he cried and pulled off and on. Eventually gave a bottle and he slept on me again from 8-10.30... good thing he's cute! Worried breastfeeding could be coming to an end if he keeps refusing, I think it's the teeth as he's had bottles since birth. Hmmm...

I still wind him now at 5m but it's just a cursory attempt. I don't keep on if he doesn't burp. Often just sitting him up is enough or when he rolls onto his tummy that forces it out!

Hello - found the new thread!

Cats here - I have DS1 who is 3 and slept beautifully up to the arrival of DS2 who is 4 months and the hungriest baby I could imagine who annoyingly feeds better at night.

Hi to all the newbies emberblu DS1 was a nightmare in the day/at groups etc but it did get better and it was easier being out than at home. I had to stop comparing him to all the content babies in the end, it just wasn't him. He's fine now though (apart from the new disturbed sleeping development 🤦)

And yes - what is it with the thrashing when burping?! DS2 needs at least 8 minutes to make sure we've got any up that are coming and avoid trapped wind but does he want to stay upright for that time?!

We're trying a new technique with DS1 to hopefully help with his sleep, nothing we can do about DS2 at the moment other than pray when he starts solids he gets better I am not fully functional any more but I'm happy that we're doing all the right stuff and I got out to horse ride this morning between feeds and before DH went to work, the fresh air sunshine and exercise was worth missing out on what would only have been an extra half hour in bed. It was soooooo cold but a beautiful sunrise :)

Looking forward to tonight working on DS1 sleeping through then I might grab a couple of extra hours.

Not the greatest night ds was asleep for just under 3 hrs from 11.15 pm then we were up for 1.5 hrs as he just wouldn’t settle again, finally got him down to sleep at 3.50 am but boy was he noisy and by 4.20 Despite a lot of rocking he just wouldn’t settle and I took him into the lounge and went on the sofa bed (still sooo uncomfortable for me not ds). Dp got at 5.30 for work as per usual so we returned to the bedroom, just got down and ds did a massive 💩 so off to get changed but got settled again by 6 am and slept on and off until 9 am.

Thanks to those who gave me their stain remover tips👍😊

We’re off to the osteopath this afternoon for ds’ first session fx it will help on his latch. In the last couple of days he’s started looking at me mischievously when he’s pulled off the boob and then quickly latching on again, he does it several times, sometimes I just have to remove him from the boob or change to the other but it’s almost as if he’s got a little game going, does any of yours do that? It’s really hard not to giggle when he does it as he looks so naughty and is definitely looking for my reaction, but obviously don’t want to encourage it...

Catscatsandmorecats good for you for getting out on your horse this morning, it’ll do you good😊👍

@Sakura03 ah mine does that too! Only when he is having a fussy feed but it is very hard not to smile!
I have been lurking for a while, DS is 5 months. He sleeps mostly 2 or 3 hour stretches usually wakes, feeds and goes back to sleep. Daytime naps are becoming a struggle and I'm starting to find the lack of sleep is really affecting me. I have DD who is almost 6 and I am becoming less and less patient with her. She is coping so well with DS taking up all my time but yet I am nagging her about silly things instead of praising her for this. Anyone any tips on how to mind yourself during this time? I had PND with DD and terrified it will return. DS is EBF so can't leave him so need tips to cope with him! Family are nearby but help is a bit hit and miss (when they are in the mood!)

DS has fallen asleep and our class starts in 42 minutes. Classic DS, looks like I will have to wake him 🙈

So DD now has a low grade fever and vomitted all over me earlier 🙈 An emergency visit to docs was made.
We're flying back on Monday, so I need her to be better, never mind me.

Oh no AMagdalena that’s just what you need, poor lo hope she and yourself get better in time for your flight home

Aw poor you amagdelena
Hope she is better soon (and you too)

It's nice to hear from new people but not so good to hear there's so many non sleepers out there!

My DS is 5 months old - a good night for us is a 3 hour stretch, followed by 2 hourly wake ups. For quite a few weeks he has regularly been waking up every hour post midnight

I co sleep as it's the only way I can get some rest, he has a cot that he thinks is some kind of jungle gym! It's at the foot of our bed and he grabs DH's feet

I'm looking into weaning DS soon, he is a big lad who doubled his birth weight by 4.5 months (EBF, I feel like this has been a big accomplishment for me) and he's really interested in food. I think I will start with some homemade purée and gradually build up to more solid stuff. I feel a bit clueless!

@AMagdalena I hope your LO is okay, I hate it when they're ill

@yolkybokey I've started to wean DS on purée, I can't recommend Ella's Kitchen first foods (the purple one) enough. It takes you through it ie when to start different foods, how much etc and has loads of recipes.

Sorry to hear DD s unwell @AMagdalena. Hope she's better really soon.

@yolkybokey DS is also just over five months and I'm planning to start weaning in a couple of weeks. Also clueless 🙈
His sleep pattern is very similar to your DS.

Just feeding him to sleep and hoping for at least a three hour stretch to start the night.. Good luck all.

@yolkybokey
My DD2 is very similar! A good stretch for us is 4 hours. She’s 16 weeks old.
you’re thinking about weaning? I weaned DD1 at 23 weeks because of quite bad reflux (although it was dying down by then). She never really enjoyed the bottle much and even now as a toddler won’t really drink milk in a cup. She absolutely loved her food and weaning was good fun. She also started sleeping through then or shortly after - 7 to 7. I know there is supposedly no link between weaning and sleep but...it feels like there is!

So DD2. Giant baby. I am not sure how this has come about as I am quite small.
She had doubled her birth weight at 12 weeks....(ebf till then). She’s very hungry and I think very big for her age (compared to DD1 who was always at the bottom of the percentile weight charts)

Let me know how you get on with the weaning early... I prob won’t wait till 26 weeks this time either, will have a chat with the HV

Hi all,
Marking my place!

One almost 7 month old who did three blissful weeks of sleeping way back around the 3 month mark and then it's been a shitfest ever since!

Current routine is to go down like an absolute dream at 6.30/7pm... and then wake up crying every 30-90 minutes all bastard night long.

@UtterlyConfused111 I definitely think there is a link between weaning and sleeping - surely it's self evident that their stomachs will be fuller for longer??

I had to have an EMCS because DS's head was too big to get through my pelvis now he's on the 91st percentile - how did we get such giant babies!

He is currently asleep on my lap while I watch Netflix...