Non-sleepers unite...

[Jellybean2017]

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is five months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

Oh dear!
@amagdelena
Hope it’s all ok and the bath helps
@meepmoop
Was it you who had 7 hours the other day? Hopefully it happens again ...

Horrible night. Baby woke up at 1030 (dream feed), 320am (dummy), 4am (gas/god only knows), 5am (feed and awake for 40 minutes), 620am, 640am (finally gave up and started the day).
It doesn’t sound so bad until I add in DD1 woke up at midnight, 3am and 6am.
I don’t know what the fuck is going on with her and why after two years of sleeping through 7 to 7, she has decided she is going to start waking up now.
After I settled DD at 530am, she woke up at 6am just as I dozed off....and then DD2 woke up 620am.... I swear to god I was ready to shoot myself....

Amagdalena it sounds like you're doing really well with a tough situation.

User I'm glad you've got the back up of family to help reinforce that you aren't going mad, your DS needs specialist help.

Utterlyconfused we've been having exactly the same trouble with DS1 in the last month, he also was a fabulous sleeper up until that point, even as a baby (we totally weren't prepared for sleep theif DS2). Apparently it's a developmental stage that can also be affected by big change in their lives , hello babies! The key for us is helping DS1 go to sleep on his own so being in his room but doing nothing after saying goodnight and gradually sitting further away as he drops off over a period of weeks, it does seem to be helping slowly but is impossible when he's so tired he falls asleep before he's even had a story!

Both went down pretty well tonight then we got completely sucked in to the last ever episodes of Grimm (I know it's dreadful but I just love it). Halfway through the last episode BAM DS2 is awake, I will have to wait until tomorrow to finish it now, I need to get to sleep once I've resettled him.

@UtterlyConfused111 yep that was us. We're on our second wake up already so I don't think I'll be having a repeat tonight.

@Catscatsandmorecats I loved Grimm, i was sad when I finished it.

@Meepmoop Oh dear. Don't we love the 15 min stretches!

@Catscats I'm trying not to lose the plot, tbh! Trying carrot again tomorrow..

So I managed to sneak away from DD for an hr for the 1st time since she was born. The first hour away from the baby and gies what DH does! Plays with his chuffing phone all the way through

Tomorrow is a big day as well. DD is going in the travel cot. Just need to get her fitted sheet washed and dried!

amagdalena sometimes they prefer the travel cot....

Utterlyconfused the bedtime tactics didn't work with DS1 tonight, he insisted he wasn't falling asleep and I should keep reading then fell asleep with me reading. He's awake now.

So, after just finishing feed no.3, just over an hour after feed no.2 for DS2, DS1 came in asking for stories. I am sat in his room waiting for him to go back to sleep now. Normally when this happens I don't get any more sleep before DS2 next wakes. Why have I got two children who can only have me get them to sleep?! The only thing DH can do to help is wind DS2 and resettle him, but once I've been awake to feed anyway it isn't always worth it.

I'm sat on the train to the airport with ds in a sling. He buries his head so I keep checking he's breathing as it freaks me out. Tried to turn his head but he just grunts at me... got 2 hrs and 40 mins sleep so will definitely need a nap at my mum's this afternoon. First time ds and I travel alone, will be strange to be away from dp for a week.
AMagdalena hope she likes the travel cot.

Ds woke around 4am as normal. Nappy change as normal but he wouldn't settle after a feed. Got cranky and fidgety (overtired I expect). He was so squirmy I couldn't hold him and I needed a wee, so I lay him on my bed, have just come back in and he's asleep. Right in the middle of my bed and duvet. He's pulled the duvet close to him to cuddle and I daren't move him. Sigh.

I just tried to peel the duvet off him and he grunted at me. Cheeky sod.

I'm cold.

I'm in. I've got the duvet back.
He sighed and rolled his head to the other side but has resettled.

I've got about50% of the duvet and he's lying on the other half. Starfished. At least I have this slither so I can keep warm. He's sort of between me and the Snüzpod (although we are top and tailing!) so he's not going anywhere.

@HashtagTired that's made me smile. There always seems to be a their asleep but with LO's.

I've got the opposite problem DH went toilet and now DS is wide awake smiling and talking. I would like a couple more hours but doubt that's going to happen

Happy travels sakura I know what you mean about the sling but they do always seem happy and sleepy in it.

Hashtagtired I am sure they know that our b ds are much comfier than theirs and engineer situations where they can starfish on them!

After waking in the night DS1 managed to sleep well and stayed in his room til his sun came up. And I had to wake DS2 to feed him so I can go riding - typical!

Somehow ds1 is still asleep?? He had no nap yesterday and went to bed at 6.30, maybe that's the secret?

Up the usual 4/5 times with ds2 but actually feel like I got some sleep.

We're on a road trip to see some friends today, super anxious about ds2 being in car seat for 2 hours, I hope he will be ok, I hate that I won't be able to see him back there 😩

Absolutely horrendous night. Frantic screaming and thrashing around in my arms from ds from 7-9pm. Finally gave in after trying everything and sobbing myself and tried putting him on boob (which doesn't have much milk left I'm sure) which calmed him down but then I was stuck holding him as he comfort sucked until 3.30am (we can't nurse lying down, dunno if it's a small boob thing or if he's uncomfortable but we rarely managed it). I finally tried to move him as I was exhausted but he woke and cried again so it was bottle and poo time. Then more screaming and thrashing before I finally got him off again and put him in cot at about 4.30... awake at 6.30 crying 😭 now up as my body hurts from trying to hold him while he writhes.

What could it be??! He's 16 weeks, had his 2nd vaccinations on Tuesday, has slight diarrhoea, no fever and maybe teething again (2nd lot) as he was shoving his hands frantically into his mouth a lot while screaming. Bonjela does nothing and he hates a cold teether 😞 he seems fine now though it's only when it's time to sleep that the thrashing and crying starts.

Don't think I can manage another night like last night especially since dh can't help atm as he has a bug.

How's everyone's day going? We've just got back from a 1.5 hour walk with a cream tea stop in the middle. I am not going to be able to move later.

DS didn't go back to sleep after being woken up so hoping for a good night later.

Hi everyone

Crap night and challenging day here. DS would not settle at 4am. Ended up calling DH down for help as started to feel frustrated. DS is now shattered after lack of sleep.

Saw HV today. She suggested it's better not to try make DS nap in the day, just let him nap when he drops off. Which would be never then 🙄 surely he'd be even more of an overtired monster?!

Baby sensory went fairly well today. DS has just had a huge screaming meltdown due to trapped wind and this culminated in him throwing up all down us both. Not sure if it was the lunchtime parsnip!

Jellybean Sounds like it's not just me who had a crap day.
As much as it's rubbish your DH is tired...it's only right he helped in the night. There would have been no point in you further trying to settle your DS, if you were frustrsted.
As for your HV, erm... sounds like mine. Pretty useless!

DD has napped for 20 mins since 3.15pm thanks to our meighbour feeling the urge to tell us someone reversed in his drive at 2am last night. Ok.... No comment.
Then, FIL walked in literally yelling on the phone. He just doesn't know how to be quiet.
And to top it all, DD had a bad bm earlier. I am so fed up with it. Just don't know what to do. Even formula wouldn't make a difference as we're weaning. I feel like DD will never eat like a normal child.
I am hiding upstairs at the moment as don't want to face FIL who is still here.

Hi everyone,

It's hard to know whether to encourage them to nap or not jellybean2017. All babies are so different, it's just a constant game or trial and error. Then when you think you've got it sussed they shift the goal posts!

So as you all know I have been really struggling with LO and his terrible sleep. I felt like everyone on here was at least getting the odd good night but things were consistently terrible with half hourly-hourly wake ups for us. In the end I downloaded the Ferber book and then on Sunday night I reached my wit's end and decided to try the method. So we ditched the dummy and tried progressive waiting.

I'm not going to lie, it was tough going that first evening. But that night he slept better than he ever has in his life!

We're almost a week in and things are far from perfect but so, so much better than before.

I feel like a bit of an idiot to be honest as he's our third child and even though I read and heard all about the importance of self settling I never really believed in it. Well now I am eating humble pie and wondering why the hell I never tried this with the other two!

We still have wake ups but for the most part he is settling himself back off to sleep. He makes the most beautiful cooing noises, it's very sweet to listen to.

It's still early days and there may well be more humps to get over but I just wanted to share where we're at.

emerblu 16 weeks we are nightmare of time sleep wise for us. Similar to what you're experiencing. But it did pass. Hang in there. Hey as much help as you can.

AMagdalena sorry to hear about DDs digestive problems. Is she in a lot of distress or is it just that her poos are bad? I don't know if it's anything you might consider but we saw a homeopath when LO had bad poos / tummy issues and it helped.

Sounds like a lovely day meepmoop

Meepmoop we just finished Grimm, I'm going to miss it too. Apparently they cut short the last series so I wonder if the storyline was cut short too?

Emberblu I find Anbesol liquid the best for teething, you rub it in the gums and it's easier than bonjela because it's not slippery. I think it numbs better too. And baby ibuprofen if the gums are really swollen. Even brilliant sleeper DS1 had some bad nights with teeth but we found that combo the most effective.

DS2 had his third jabs today, the nurse described him as vocal. He was very sad about it. He went down on though and can have more calpol if he needs it so we should be alright. I suspect he'll wake soon for feed number one but I'm falling asleep so will let myself get some zzzzzzzz

@catscatsandmorecats
I had an epic bedtime story meltdown from dd1 today too. Just wanted one more and then....

@xxrealistmum
I’m buying the book; I’ll have to wait till she’s 6 months old though if she isn’t sleeping by then...

Both babies are asleep. I have a feeling it’s not going to be a good night, DD2 woke up screaming randomly in the middle of her last nap and I don’t know why...

Ok; good to bed now. Let the fun begin...baby usually wakes up as soon as I have drifted off.

DS just woke up screaming, tried to settle without feeding but he was inconsolable. So on feed number 1 only 50 mins since the bedtime feed.

@Catscatsandmorecats It did seem very rushed at the end so I'm guessing they did cut it short which is a shame.

Hi all, happy Friday!!

Not sure what I'm in for tonight. Past three nights have been okay ish, although DS still only doing the first half of the night in his cot.

He got weighed today and is 12 pounds 10 ounces - he's piling on the weight after a low birth weight (5lb 4oz) so I'm really happy. Makes it worthwhile all this constant feeding!

@amagdalena sorry you're still having issues how's DD in herself?

Way to go @xxrealistmum! Good to know it is working for you, hopefully it's the start of a big improvement!

@emberblu @jellybean and everyone else hope for better nights. At least it's the weekend so hopefully there's a chance of more help??

realisticmum thanks its nice to know it will pass eventually!
cats thanks for the tip we are picking up teething powder tomorrow so will look for that too ☺

It happened again. Bedtime routine then meltdown. Dh got him to sleep finally then half and hour later it starts again... I gothim back to a twitchy kind of sleep which he keeps crying in and reaching for me. I'm just holding him , too scared for put down and he does sound in pain/really upset when crying so I'll give him all the hugs he wants for now. So might be another no sleep night.

Hope others are fairing better! Sorry for typos, I'm typing at a very awkward angle lol

We're on hourly wake ups here..

I've said I'll go with my sister to soft play tomorrow afternoon, I fear I'm going to regret it

And we're up again, this is ridiculous