Still awake with a (not so) newborn - the further adventures of EBLL...

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Hope everyone finds the new thread 😂 and new chatterboxes are welcome to join us and battle through the night feeds together (with or without the assistance of EBLL [Ewan's back left leg!) 🐏

Hello ladies, how long do your LOs sleep in the day in total? My book says for a 7 week old not to allow them to sleep more than 4 hours total....mine can do that in one.

Four hours is not enough? It should be like 9 at night and more like 5-7 during the day.

We're on about three hours of napping during the day at almost 16 weeks. Plus about 10-11 at night.

Saying that he's never had just three naps a day even as a newborn, it has always been lots of short ones.

Below is this past week. Purple is sleep and yellow is feeds.

@Jellybabie3 my DS is 6 weeks and def sleeps at least 4 hours probably closer to 7 I'd say, though I've never timed it. Seems strange that the book says they shouldn't be sleeping for more than 4 hrs total in the day though. Specially since newborns sleep for like 80% of the day!

Thanks everyone, I didn't realise cluster feeding could go on for that long! Just tried to put ds down as he fell asleep my boobs but no no he was having none of it and started sucking his knuckles and crying so now attached to the other boob....

Feeling really crap tonight. Don't know if it's sleep deprivation built up over the weeks, doing too much running about today or the fact that DS has been attached to my boob all night but I just feel like I need a night off to sleep and not be in demand.
I love my DS so so much and he is actually a really easy happy baby and I really appreciate that but I just feel so meh tonight. Going to sleep now after tidying the flat so hopefully I'll feel better when I wake up inevitability soon.

Hi all. Not off to a good start here. I've been giving DS a bottle formula feed around 8/9 and it's meant a 3/4 hour stretch which has been a lifesaver for me to start the night with. But tonight he woke after 2 hours! Cluster feeding is brutal, he's just so hungry ALL the time right now. I know it will pass but it's bloody hard work! So I can relate @sakura03.

Totally get how you feel @Gimble. It's just relentless and there is no respite. Knowing I could have a year of this ahead makes me cry! Hope tonight is better for you.

Swapping to a sleeping bag has not gone well so far, he has thrashed like mad all night so far. May have to wean him more slowly from it, or at least as slowly as I can before he literally doesn't fit into it any more.

@nina maybe try one arm in and one arm out of the swaddle as a transition? I think that worked with us for DD.

Up again because the wind is so load outside it keeps waking my DD! She slept through last night but I think that was a fluke She is 9mo and doing so well but even the white noise machine isn't cutting it will that racket outside!

That's good to know @percypigs. I've got him in with just one arm now, to see if it helps. He's got lots of extra room to move his legs now as well so I may have to do one arm out, one arm and legs out, everything out. 🤞🤞

It's quiet on here tonight - hopefully a good sign you're all getting lovely sleep??

We're on hourly wakings, sigh. DS not even feeding properly, fussing on and off boob and it's really hurting. It's utterly miserable.

It's at times like this I find myself wondering if we made a mistake having another DC. Things are at such a lovely stage with DD now after 2 very difficult years. I love DS very much, of course I do, but I'd forgotten how awful the sleep deprivation is. I feel too old to do this. I do know rationally that things will get better, but at 3am when I'm craving sleep so much it's making me cry, it's hard to see that...

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs sorry to hear it’s a bad night I don’t think you are alone in having sleep deprived 3am thoughts of ‘have I done the right thing’ here.
It will get better and we will all survive this and maybe one day sleep again

Thanks @mummarosie. Good to know I'm not alone! We are so very lucky and I know this, and seeing DD and DS together makes it so worthwhile. But 3am actually 4am now noooooo is a dark time!

DS squirming away every time I attempt a transfer. Got the white noise on but all it's doing is making me even more sleepy!

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs it’s rough sometimes. I have a cousin who has been TTC for 4 years and had multiple miscarriages along the way and as awful as it sounds sometimes I make myself think of them to help remind me how lucky and blessed I am with DD. This tiny baby thing is hard!

But I got my first smile from her yesterday so she might have screamed the entire evening and be refusing to go back to sleep now but it is all worth it ❤️

@NinaMarieP thanks for the reassurance Re: naps. Im suprised the book says 4 hours. I was tempted to try but my ds seems to sleep better at night the MORE naps he has. What app do you use?

I'm on feed #1 after putting him down at 11. He woke due to wind again. I swear he would sleep through otherwise. Pleased with the sleep but surprisingly still knackered. Think I am getting a cold.

Sorry you are struggling @WhoAteAllthePercyPigs I cant imagine how hard it is with two. Be worth it in a few weeks when the newborn bit is over?

So we went out tonight as a family and didn't get in until 9pm, which cuts into my precious guaranteed sleep period by almost 2 hours. As we are on holiday and dh isn't working, we agreed that he'd take ds in the lounge until 2:30 am then he'd bring him in to me. Dh will then sleep in the spare bed in dd twin room and I wil get up with dd at 6:30 when she normally wakes up so dh can go back to sleep until 9am. He gets a bit longer to sleep if he wants it because he's likely to be woken up by dd at 6:30am. And he's not quite used to the sleep deprivation yet.

So I've just done my first feed of the night, but certainly not ds' first feed. I don't know what his pattern has been like tonight.

He did do his weekly poo last night though! Although not as 'epic' as the one he did last Sunday. Those are images I can't easily erase.

Oh, and this cold I st gets worse. I've now developed a hacking cough to accompany the snots. The cough really isn't conducive to baby sleeping environments either so I'm trying to stealth-cough into my duvet but it's really quite tricky and less satisfying, so I cough more.

Ds is now 12 weeks old!

We have been up every hour since midnight but have been trying not to distract DS haha. He seems to think it's playtime now so I'm feeding again in the hope he might fall back to sleep! He gave me some lovely gummy smiles in the darkness earlier!!

Had hoped DS might sleep for longer than an hour again but no, 5.30 like clockwork. FFS. Please please do not let this become his new pattern!!

I'm looking forward to him smiling, right now, as cute as he is it doesn't feel like I'm getting much back!

Another day...

Been up every hour since 0000.

Was me re parental advice, mine want me to leave 12 week baby to cry in cot saying he’s old enough now and that it’s behavioural that he’s clingy

I swear every time I feel like I'm almost at the end of my patience DS cuts me a massive break - 6 hrs sleep just now! He was awake for about the same amount of time before he finally went down so he must have really needed to catch up on some zzzs, hopefully I get a bit more sleep when I put him down again.

Thanks for the solidarity @WhoAteAllthePercyPigs and everyone else on here, it really is nice to feel ike I can be honest knowing that you'll all get what I'm on about. This thread is the bloody tits.

Hope the sleep suit origami is working @NinaMarieP and so glad you got your first smile @mummarosie1, they're so magic aren't they?

@Lovingtyrells I try to remind myself that advice used to be very different when my parents etc try to offer advice and that they are just trying to help. even dh thought I was spoiling ds by going to him whenever her cried and not wanting to let him cry is out until we had a chat with the health visitor who thankfully put him right!!

There is no way I could cosleep with ds all night. He's such a space taker-upperer. I just went to the loo toco e back to him star fished pretty much in the middle of the bed 🙄