Still awake with newborn

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Part 2 ... everyone welcome

Hi Bobbiepin. I can’t say that I do. Unless it’s a cluster feed, I find bf quite necessary to release the pressure of build up in my boobs so I get the opposite relief from it.

theotherendofthesockportal having just conducted my own assessment of the leg situation on Ewan, I’d say back left was womb. Back right is the hoover. Front left is the rain. I therefore avoided to press what could only be the music led, front right.

We need to add a new acronym to the MN dictionary. EBLL.* Ewan’s back left leg.*

I have two Ewan’s.* My dd has the purple one, and ds has the grey one. I used it less for dd but he’s earned his weight in gold for ds already.*

I am not sure why I keep getting random bold bits. Sorry about that!

Hmmm ok. So now i am pondering.

By EBLL you mean his back left?. I mean left as you look at him....which would be his right. I am a moron.

I agree with hashtag i am afraid; if ds doesnt feed for abit i feel relief

Maybe I need a mindset change. Everything gets so sore maybe feeding will relieve it. Tbh when my boobs get sore it feels like all the muscles in my chest & upper back are burning so maybe I'm trying to avoid antagonizing that when feeding will actually help relieve it.

Or maybe I just need to pull up my big girl pants!

@Jellybabie3 that’s a good point. I have Ewan hanging from the snuzpod and he’s facing away from me. So EBLL is actually HIS back left.

@Bobbiepin maybe. Maybe not. When we get tired we just react in different ways. If it is bothering you or affecting your motivation to bf, why not go and talk to a bf peer supporter? Your local children’s centre will probably have some sort of bf support group, or your HV can put you in touch with them.

My other half is actually called Ewan so I get a lot of laughs out of picturing you all hanging him from your cots and deploying his (back) left leg

So what are you all getting your DH’s for Christmas?

I do wish it would make less of a clicky noise to redeploy EBLL each time.

Here fircthecfirst time tonight! Got DS to finally go to sleep around 2045, but didn't manage to get him upstairs and in the basket until around 2200. He then woke at 2330, but didn't seem overly hungry, so I did some dummy and shh action and by Jove 20mins later the was back to sleep. Woke at 0130.

Bobbypin, I don't feel quite like that, but DS is much more fussy at night and goes on and off ages, seems to forget how to latch and just grunts open mouthed with the nipple on his mouth! His latch is sloppier at night too, I can never really get in a good position on the left side. All this leads to much sorer latch and less enjoyable experience. Coupled with just wanting to sleep means I don't really want to get up and do it either!!

DP has just brought him up for the night. He last fed at 11:30 and he’s just had another. Hopefully we may get some kip. He’s spent pretty much every night bar one or 2 since birth on me, so I’ve barely slept.

It’s beginning to catch up on me and I’ve got very little patience. Especially when he faffs around on the boob. Making me want to start the formula. Going to hold out though. I know it’s a decision I’d regret once the exhaustion passes.

No idea re Crimbo @hashtagtired .
I've done zERO shopping. Have DD's 2nd birthday on the 30th of this month. Thankfully I have shppped for that though. Got to LoVe Amazon!

We are awake, I haven’t actually been to sleep as I stupidly decided to watch Motherland and overstimulated by brain. I never learn.

DD has just had a small feed, this means we will be awake again soon, but after the milk is past it’s use by windows. I not looking forward to going back downstairs in the cold.

My cats are benefitting from the nocturnal activity as they sit by their food bowls every time I go downstairs. I think they look sad because I’ve been neglecting them since the arrival of DD so to buy their love again, I always give them some biscuits.

I love the Ewan acronym :) and the discussion around his noises. You ladies really are my people.

@hashtagtired I went to one last week & am going back tomorrow. DD had problems regaining her birth weight so everything up until Monday was about that. Now I think it needs to be about both of us if I can continue bf long term.

Hi everyone and welcome new people!

First feed here. I'm feeling rotten with this cold, hoping he'll not take his usual time to go down after.

@bobbiepin I do find the bf more uncomfortable at night, like toonew said, DS is fussier at night and it hurts, plus it's frustrating trying to get him into a position we are both comfortable with. I spend a lot of time sitting in am awkward position trying to keep boob in mouth! It doesn't sound right what you're experiencing though, definitely agree with the suggestion to get some peer advice and support.

I need to buy DH a Christmas gift?? Well bugger

Does anyone else get postpartum night sweats? I'm 13 days in and waking up soaked. It's gross, and I fear for the mattress. Hoping it stops soon...

And @bobbiepin, re the breastfeeding, one thing I've learnt with DD is a healthy happy mummy makes for a healthy happy baby. So don't beat yourself up if you need to stop. I am supplementing with a bottle of formula for DS' night feed. It's something I wouldn't have dared do with DD, but in hospital DS (who's premature) would not latch on and it was crucial that he was getting fed, whatever the means. DD never took a bottle which made things very difficult so we are persevering with this. If it leads to him rejecting the boob, then so be it, I'll breastfeed as long as I can.

@whoateallthepercypigs - is thatba thing?? The night sweats. I'm 4 weeksnin and ita been happening to be for the last three weeks. I thought it was just something weird going in with me?!? I've been waking up completely drenched when DH hands DS over to me. Only appears to happen if I get a proper bit of sleep though.
I totally agree with the above bobbypin if you need to supliment for your sanity or for any reason you do what's right for you and your family. My DD lost and awful lot of weight at the beginning of her little life. My milk didn't come in for 9 days and being a first time mum then I had no idea what was right or wrong. I was pursued bybthe midwives to introduce a top up bottle which I did at night time and that became two over time. She had that all the way through her Bf journey and never did any harm. She stopped feeding at 11 months and is now a happy healthy almost 2 year old. We never had any nipple confusion or breast refusal. X

DS now has an expressed bottle each night sonhes used to a bottle as well. Although I seem to be getting less and less every time I pump. Even though I do it at the same time each day. With DD I used to get nothing at all. If I need to I'll move to formula to keep up with that bottle. It's a lovely break for my boobs, DH gets to help and I know it's unproven, but I think it helps with sleep. X

@who@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs yes to night sweats. I wake up frigging drenched sometimes!

@Bobbiepin sounds like you are having a bit of a tough time there. hand hold coming your way. I don't quite feel the same and mostly enjoy the feeling of bf however I can relate slightly to what you said. ds cluster feeds alot and when he has been on the boob for a while and I no longer feel the benefit from the pressure relief and he starts faffing i can feel frustrated with it especially in the evening when I'm tired. like someone else said things can feel different when you are tired. I actually started expressing for this reason and now hand ds over the dh for a bottle feed when i feel like this.

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs yes the night sweats!! yuk. no one tells you about this in antenatal
I'm 6 weeks post partum and they have definitely got better now (she says sat here sweating away). I also found my temp was all over the place. I would be sweating one min and feeling cold the next so getting comfy was just impossible.

Yup it's a thing @toonewtobehaving2! It's really minging, and I'm so glad I'm sleeping separately from DH. I googled it and it's really common, your body's way of shredding excess preg fluid I think. So good for weight loss? any silver lining

I've tried wearing different night clothes, loose cotton, vest, no outer garments at all, but nothing helps. I'd try a lighter duvet but it's so cold right now I'd freeze! Just got to see it through I guess...

Oh and thanks for relating about the bottle thing toonew. I feel guilty, especially after the midwife was all like 'you really shouldn't be doing that' cue patronising little speech about how supply and demand works. I just nodded and smiled and am doing it anyway. It has meant for the first part of the night I'm getting a good stretch. With DD, I suffered from PND and I think that was down to lack of sleep and not getting any relief with the feeding. I can't risk that now, so we will continue along this path. Not gonna lie, the temptation to make up another bottle for his subsequent night feeds is strong saved by my laziness because I don't want to go downstairs

Feed #2 of the night. Sort of falling asleep propped up in bed. I don’t mind not going to sleep in the first place but being woken up is a killer...

Aaaaaand he’s back on the boob. Soon as I try and put him in his crib he’s fussing and crying. He hates the bloody thing 🙄

Ds is fussing and whinging, but not crying. I’ll leave him for a little bit and just keep an eye on him.

Post partum night sweats yes! Not now, but early on, yes! It was gross. I was showering twice a day. Literally dripping with sweat. Totally normal though and it passes.