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New SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK thread - are we still here?

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PavlovtheCatthatgottheCremeEgg · 07/04/2007 12:04

Another thread. My didn't we get full quickly! night sleeping good. Naps...not even 5 mins so far today...

OP posts:
Tamdin · 02/05/2007 13:25

LOL cruise he's a psychologist specialising in children/families. wrote a fantastic book imo called 'they f**k you up'
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Tamdin · 02/05/2007 13:25

LOL cruise he's a psychologist specialising in children/families. wrote a fantastic book imo called 'they f**k you up'
x

Tamdin · 02/05/2007 13:26

sorry for dbl post x

cruisemum1 · 02/05/2007 14:10

thx tamdin- i shll investigate further. anything that will help will be welcome here! how ar eyour nights/days going?

jabberwocky · 02/05/2007 14:35

OMG, last night went like this:

down at 8:30, up again at 10:30, 12:30 and 1:30. Then ds1 woke up at 2:30 . Ds2 again at 3:30, 4:30 then 6:30.

I'm walking around in a daze...

cruisemum1 · 02/05/2007 17:02

oh god you poor thing!

Tamdin · 02/05/2007 17:18

sorry cruise have just logged back on. our nights are very up and down and unpredictable. thought we'd gotten to the 1 waking stage (which i can cope with no problemo) but apart from one night this week he's been up 2 or 3 (sometimes 4 times) a night in the last 2 weeks. put it down to mumps vac and teeth but who knows. the only good thing is that when he gets up he goes back to sleep within 5 mins so we're not battling with him for an hour or anything like some of you guys have to deal with.

ratfly · 02/05/2007 18:59

Ginger and cruisemum - Ihave been searching the mumsnet forums for eczema and noticed both of your names crop up in a thread.
Do your children still have eczema? Do you think it could be that which is stopping them sleeping so well? I often wonder if ds wakes up itchy or uncomfortable in this heat...

Swizzler · 02/05/2007 19:24

Another iffy night for us last night. Not helped by all books etc. saying they can sleep through/sleep for 7 hours at this age ... wonfering if I should stop feeding him in the night, but how else to get him back to sleep? Might try missing a few feeds - will see how it goes tonight. Has anyone tried giving water instead of milk?

Or should I ust relax, keep up with putting him down awake (it's getting more difficult for us as well - screaming if I move out of sight) and hope that things improve on their own?

MaeWest · 02/05/2007 19:29

I'm back . Think teeth are the culprit, last night was a real shocker, more time spent awake than asleep I think for all concerned. Luckily my mum was here today and she helped out, took him out for a walk this morning whilst I had shower. He's been catching up on sleep all day, so hope tonight will be better [hopeful]

cruisemum1 · 02/05/2007 19:32

swizz - no hard and fast rules that have worked here i'm afraid so no good asking me
dunno what is going on now. ds has fallen asleep at last feed as usual but the for last 2 nites has woken on contact with cot sheets and then though it was time to be awake. i am on my own with dd (as usual) so have given up sacrificing my night to putting him to bed and just brought him d/s so at least we can be together. not at all what i want to do but i am sick to death (and i mean reallllllyy sick to death) of my nights being dictated to by an 8mth old. i give up

cruisemum1 · 02/05/2007 19:33

for those of you still having rough nights. to think i was stupid enough to think i had it cracked. what a muppet!

lilysma · 02/05/2007 19:49

for all those with bad nights, esp cruisemum.

I'm not sure if I'm handling the cold situation with dd very well - it seems like there should be another way of being extra loving without reverting to two hourly bf, but I'm too sleep deprived to think properly or to try new things at 3am .

Am feeling quite low about the possibility of ever getting any more sleep

dressedupnowheretogo · 02/05/2007 19:54

well we've gone down well tonight so yeah for a b4 8 bed time

but she has a viral infecion which has given her a really bad angry rash apparently she may have a sore throat which could have explained the screaming of the last two nights rather teeth which is the more logical but im sure they know what they're on about

cruisemum1 · 02/05/2007 20:16

lilysma - thank you so much for kind thoughts, much appreciated . asyou may have been able to tell, i have been feeling pretty low about the sleep thing myself just recently. i dont know if i am every gonna get thigns sorted. i am beginnng to dread our family holiday, fret about not ever having another eve to myself with dd. just don't know how to fix this and feel mighty stressed about it. hang in there though - you are definitely not alone.

tibsy · 02/05/2007 20:36

hi all!
have just skim read the posts super quick. have been laid up for a few days with a bloody sickness bug. has been the 'house of flying vomit' here, nice! just as dp and i get over it, ds goes down with it last night am just praying that dd doesnt get it, shes too weeny
for once tho, i can say that my lack of sleep is not to do with dd!!!! rather my need to vomit hourly....sorry if tmi!!!
to hear that some of you have been having crappola nights and yey for those who have been improving. lets hope tonight is a guddun

Swizzler · 02/05/2007 21:05

update: DS woke up at 8:30, decided not yto feed him, DH settled him and he's gone to sleep! Am going to try and feed at 10/11 and then not till 2/3am - wish me luck!

jabberwocky · 02/05/2007 21:43

Hi everyone, I had a babysitter scheduled to come over today so that I could do some things but I slept instead.

I'm thinking about trying out this idea:

What if dh gives ds2 a bottle of formula at night instead of letting him nurse? I'm thinking he really can't be all that hungry he just wants the comfort.

Oh, and ds2 has ecxema as well. There have been some nights where I think the itchiness has woken him up. I tend to slather cream on him in my half-asleep state. I try to make sure he's all lotioned up before bedtime including using the hydrocortisone on his face and head in an effort to prevent the itchy awakenings. Doens't work everytime tho.

dressedupnowheretogo · 02/05/2007 21:48

updat ejust woke up has bf now chilling hopefully she'll be in bed b4 10

cruisemum1 · 03/05/2007 07:57

rubbish here . getting worse by the day

ratfly · 03/05/2007 08:44

swizzler - did it work?
cruise
ds went down at 7.30 after a few minutes of crying. woke at 2.30 but I ingnored him and he settled himself. fed him at 3.15 (though I soad I wouldn't feed him til 4...), reinserted dummy at 5. then rocked him to prevent him waking up from 6.15 onwards.
Not too bad, considering.
It;s funny how a couple of weeks ago I wanted to cut out the 3am feed, now I hope that will be the only time he does wake up. I shall just lower my expectations I think....

dressedupnowheretogo · 03/05/2007 08:46

well she was asleep by 10 45 and only woke about twice and went straight back off she woke up at 7 so we may have cracked it as she only fed once

sorry to cruise and swizzler

gingerninja · 03/05/2007 08:53

Swiz, I've been offering water instead of milk firstly for the 12-6 period then for the last 2 days after going to bed at 7. For me it's been relatively easy because she likes water and it does settle her. I figure I have to offer her something because I wake in the night with a dry nose, throat etc so need to take water. She's been sleeping with us tho so she has the comfort of us being closer. I think it has made a bit of difference but it has by no means stopped her waking or indeed easing the difficulty in settling her at the mo but I know that's nothing to do with wanting milk because she's not routing in the same way as she did before.I think your lo is about a month younger than mine? (DD is 8 months) in which case you're probably fine to give it a go. I decided to try and cut out the 11 oclock feed because I thought I was giving her mixed messages. You can have milk when you wake but not all the time. We'll see how long it lasts.

Ratfly, I've no doubt eczema is playing a part at the mo, she it scratching as soon as her clothes come off and is constantly rubbing her sore little feet together. It's really flared up recently which I've read teething and the weather can play a part in. I feel for them I really do. Try and keep your lo cool it helps.

Cruise, so sorry that you're suffering again. If it's any comfort I think you're right to get him up again and let him fit in around what you're doing in the evening. Perhaps try again when DD is in bed.

Tibs
Gotta dash but back later, take care all. Cruise, CAT me if you want to chat.

Anyone heard from Amberjee recently?

PS My night wasn't too bad, waking at 11 and 3. Dirty nappy and water at 3 then back til 6. She spent a god 30 minutes pinching and fidgetting but nothing major.

PavlovtheCat · 03/05/2007 09:16

oh dear. Last two nights DD woke at 4am. Had a proper tantrum. Yelling an earpeicing yell and kicking her legs so her back arches. Full on, only BF calmed her, then more of the same for 5 mins, then zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz as if she had not even woken!! .

I wonder what thats all about?
Sorry for those still having a rotten time

cruisemum1 · 03/05/2007 09:16

horrendous. dont know what to do. fucked right off

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