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New SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK thread - are we still here?

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PavlovtheCatthatgottheCremeEgg · 07/04/2007 12:04

Another thread. My didn't we get full quickly! night sleeping good. Naps...not even 5 mins so far today...

OP posts:
redbeki · 25/04/2007 10:57

Hi screamin,Sounds mad if she's beena good sleeper until now,coz it's usually the other way round!
If you start putting her in your bed,she will come to expect it,try ,if you can to keep putting her back in her cot,even if it takes all night!she will get the message.Sounds like she's teething.Is she a good eater?I think the teething pains start before the teeth appear.It's so hard to know what to suggest,sorry

redbeki · 25/04/2007 10:57

Hi screamin,Sounds mad if she's beena good sleeper until now,coz it's usually the other way round!
If you start putting her in your bed,she will come to expect it,try ,if you can to keep putting her back in her cot,even if it takes all night!she will get the message.Sounds like she's teething.Is she a good eater?I think the teething pains start before the teeth appear.It's so hard to know what to suggest,sorry

redbeki · 25/04/2007 10:57

Hi screamin,Sounds mad if she's beena good sleeper until now,coz it's usually the other way round!
If you start putting her in your bed,she will come to expect it,try ,if you can to keep putting her back in her cot,even if it takes all night!she will get the message.Sounds like she's teething.Is she a good eater?I think the teething pains start before the teeth appear.It's so hard to know what to suggest,sorry

redbeki · 25/04/2007 10:57

Hi screamin,Sounds mad if she's beena good sleeper until now,coz it's usually the other way round!
If you start putting her in your bed,she will come to expect it,try ,if you can to keep putting her back in her cot,even if it takes all night!she will get the message.Sounds like she's teething.Is she a good eater?I think the teething pains start before the teeth appear.It's so hard to know what to suggest,sorry

redbeki · 25/04/2007 10:57

Hi screamin,Sounds mad if she's beena good sleeper until now,coz it's usually the other way round!
If you start putting her in your bed,she will come to expect it,try ,if you can to keep putting her back in her cot,even if it takes all night!she will get the message.Sounds like she's teething.Is she a good eater?I think the teething pains start before the teeth appear.It's so hard to know what to suggest,sorry

redbeki · 25/04/2007 10:58

My p.c. has gone mad,only posted that one once.ARGGGHHH!

gingerninja · 25/04/2007 11:49

Tam, so sorry to hear your news. Sending lots of extra hugs your way.

Sorry haven't got time to read all the post especially all yours redbeki but welcome to newcomers. Will catch up later.

DD stayed in her cot all night. No tears and no feeding. Woke at 2.30 and didn't get her back to sleep until 3.30 tho! 2 dirty nappies and soe singing and dancing later and she went back until 5. Shouted out and I placed a hand on her sholder and she went back until 6. Brought her into bed, fed and asleep until 7.30. Not bad eh?

Tamdin · 25/04/2007 12:20

thanks ginger and for your night. x

Amberjee · 25/04/2007 13:15

good work ginger!

I think my Lo is finally starting to get the picture as well at night. he woke at 12, 3 and 6 for food. i'm kind of ok with that. of course i'd like more sleep, but i'm not really expecting him to sleep throught the night or anything, i don't thing he's particularly ready for that. i'm just grateful when he sleeps solid stretches and goes back to sleep easily. he also woke at 2, but amazingly whinged for a few mins and went back to sleep - I stayed cozy in bed!

Anyway, it sure does take the patience of a saint to get my LO down for naps. I'm really working on the self settling thing at the moment, but sometimes I sit next to his cot for 40 mins while he does some aerobic routine that he's got going before he actually goes to sleep. his favourite thing is putting his legs up in the air at 90 degrees (how on earth that helps him wind down for sleep i'll never know) and then when he's close to going to sleep he flings his head side to side really rapidly as if he can't decide which angle he wants to sleep with his head on. sometimes i have to stop myself from laughing, its such a circus act

Amberjee · 25/04/2007 13:16

Tam, extra warm thoughts for you and DP and MIL.

Amberjee · 25/04/2007 13:16

ps. all this singing and dancing malarkey makes me laugh. I'm sure my time is coming though. Legs in the air one day. Singing and dancing the next....

redbeki · 25/04/2007 14:23

Sounds like some progress ginger.Two dirty nappies though.My lo has never pooed at night,that would do my head in.She seems more settled though,that's good.Hope tonight is better.

redbeki · 25/04/2007 14:25

How old is you LO Amberjee?
My LO settles herself more now too,maybe they get to the stage when they can,naturally.

jabberwocky · 25/04/2007 15:20

DS2 used to do one or two poos at night but has mostly stopped that, thank goodness.

Had an unusually good night last night Ds2 had a really long late afternoon nurse, then fell asleep at 6:30. Nursed again at 9:30 then slept until 2:45!!!!! I couldn't believe it. He did wake up again at 5:30 so a bit of a short stretch there but I felt like superwoman after having the extra sleep earlier in the night.

tibsy - I did the NCSS with ds1 (started it a bit late, tho) and try to keep that in mind. I gave my book away, may need to buy another.

redbeki - I'm thinking you're right about the weaning. I'm looking forward to 6 months to see if it makes a difference. Of course, have already had tons of people suggest to "put a little rice in his bottle" [grrr] still bfing, first of all..
Also will try not to do such a late nap. I have been wondering if that was part of the problem. It just seems hard to get him to do naps when I want him to IYKWIM.

tamdin - wishing you the best on MIL's surgery

Amberjee · 25/04/2007 16:05

redbeki, he's almost 4 months. he can settle if you get the timing right. if its too early, he's too wide awake, if its too late it leads to meltdown. so its quite a tricky business. it also varies what he needs to settle. sometimes i can just walk out of the room and he's fine, other times i have to pat him, hold his hands or just sit by him. other times all hell breaks loose and my only option is to feed him to sleep

I hate LO pooing at night. sometimes LO has a 3am poo which is the worst. often these days its 6am, which while still a little uncivilised, is a whole lot better than 3am. and then there were the good old days where he used to grunt and push for hours from 1am to lead up to the 3am poo. occassionally he holds out for 7am - those are great days

i just got a new sling, its taking me a bit to get used to, but its made from gauze so may be a lot better for summer.

i also bought some tommee tippee sippee cup trainer thingey to see if LO will drink from it as he won't take a bottle at all. i've got one of those doidy cups, but still seems a little bit ambitious to have him take any substantial amount out of it.

Amberjee · 25/04/2007 16:13

jabber, most of the mums i speak to said that introducing solids didn't make a speck of difference to sleep, but yes i still cling to the hope that that will make all the difference

i think the one thing that has really helped me, particularly with naps, but a little bit in the evening as well is paying attention to LO's tired signs. i've read it in quite a few different books now, i think in baby whisperer and dr sears, probably some other places as well. the key is that once they are 'telling' you they are tired, you need to put them to bed immediately. yawning is the obvious sign, but also staring into space, turning away from things, quietening down, burying into your chest, whinging, getting fussy, etc etc. you just have to learn what your LO does. i learned that you can't wait 10 minutes, you can't finish your cup of tea or have a shower, they need to be in bed that minute in order to have the easiest time in getting them to sleep.

anyway, i still miss the window of opportunity sometimes and have to pick up the pieces. but i think this is what really got LO and I into the business of naps - all a matter of timing.

anyway, there are still days when LO gives me tired signs all day, even after he's just woken up!

Amberjee · 25/04/2007 17:53

just a Q, has anyone had particular success with the dream feed? And with breast or bottle?

jabberwocky · 25/04/2007 18:39

Amberjee, good point about the tiredness signs. I have read that too. It's so much harder tho with two dcs to do that instant-get-in-the-bed thing.

And you're right about solids. Didn't make any difference whatsoever with ds1.

Amberjee · 25/04/2007 20:05

i don't know how the hell anyone has more than one DC!! i've got my hands full with this one. we've been trying to put him to bed for an hour now. i can hear DH singing to him. i had to leave the room because i started to go into hysterics at the things LO was doing.

Amberjee · 25/04/2007 20:05

laughter hysterics that is. he can just be sooo funny.

MaeWest · 25/04/2007 20:52

Had a lovely sleep experience today. We were busy today and DS hadn't slept all afternoon and so took him to bed with me at about 3.30 for a quick feed. He dozed off immediately, guzzling all the way all cootched up next to me (was lying down). After 30 mins he woke up, looked round the room, grabbed my nose firmly with one hand, stuck his other thumb in his mouth and snuggled down for another hour [cute]. Of course, he then was wide awake at bedtime doing acrobatics in the cot and has only just gone to sleep now . But he did go to sleep without my boob in his mouth, albeit with DH sitting next to him. So we shall see what the night brings...

redbeki · 25/04/2007 21:19

Amber,I think 4 months is early to settle themselves.My dd is only just starting to at nearly 8 months.

redbeki · 25/04/2007 21:21

Solids have made a difference for us.She's much more settled.Try BLW when you do ,it's great.

ratfly · 25/04/2007 21:33

Amber - your dc sounds like my ds. Yours is a month older.
I hate the nighttime poos. somehow they are more explosive sounding at night, aren't they!
I particularly hate it when you finish a nightfeed, perhaps at 1.30 after having just a couple of hours sleep, and dc has fallen asleep at the breast, then lo and behold! a poo. Great! Can't get away with leaving THAT one til morning. sigh
I know what you mean about tired signs too - sometimes I try to fend him off til dh comes home, and that results in meltdown. I MUST put him down as soon as he shows he is tired.

But something weird happened today - we had to go to a meeting at 6.30. I was dreading leaving ds incase he didnt go down and just screamed for mum (babysitting). When we left, he was still awake, and mum was reading a story to him. Well, he fell asleep 15 minutes later, for mum. She did hold him, but even so I am impressed.

Naps are another story...

Swizzler · 25/04/2007 21:34

Lots of messages here - can't keep up! Hi to the new folk

Much better night for us last night - only woke twice at 12 and 3 (having gone down at 7ish). Hope he repeats it tonight

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