new 'SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK' thread

[tibsy]

hi ladies, the other one ran out of space, so if no one else starts a new thread, here it is....

Boo hoo I'm back!!

Think DD is teething v badly at mo. For past 3 nights she wakes screaming and it carried on last night for 2 hours . Even Calpol didn't settle her fully. She finally fell asleep through exhaustation me thinks.

To top it all I have horriblr cold, ache everywhere & feel like poo. Damn those teeth just when we had it sorted....

Ginger- I go back to work in August and feel sick at thought of leaving her. I'm keeping everything crossed for a lotto win between now and then

Genlay: poor you, sounds like a nightmare. Hope your LO settles soon.

Thanks for all the tips - we're trying swaddling at night as DS doesn't like grobags. I think the sunshine is imp too - we were out most of the day yesterday and DS slept from 6pm - 9pm and then 10 - 1:30am - def an improvement!

Daytime naps are the next battle for us - at the mo I stick DS in the buggy and walk around for hours. Not a hardship when the weather is nice! I would like to get 1 nap at home tho as I cd get stuff done - like the idea of concentrating on the midday nap.

Hope everyone had a better night

cc21: have you tried baby iburofen? You can give it with paracetemol if you need to.

Girls just found you.....SO relieved!
Haven't got time to catch up on a week of posts and any new people but hope you'll all ok...will be back later

hi!
i would love to join your thread!! have a 6 week baby girl, and have been up since 3.30am this morning and the same yesterday morning. Of course, now that i'm up and dressed and all buzzed up on caffeine, she is dead to the world and sleeping like an angel! I think she's got a snuffly cold at the moment which is making her wake up constantly, but i'm KNACKERED and NEED SOME SLEEEEEP!!!!

have managed a quick catch up. welcome to all our new sleep deprived friends. Nothing has changed in our house this week. Ds still waking every 4 hours at least (for new people my ds is nearly 14 months and still not sleeping through the night....sorry to depress you!). Dh joked this morning maybe we should put him in his own room which is all very well for him to say as it'll be me getting up to see to ds. Keep meaning to buy NCSS to see if we can implement anything. He started walking properly last weekend and as predicted it hasn't made the slightest bit of difference to his sleep. (everyone kept telling me it would....except the realists on here!)
Still can't bare idea od CC.
Anyway best go ds is pulling everything out of the kitchen cupboards, we still don't have catches on the doors as Dh doesn't 'do' DIY! just a s well I think he's gorgeous or he'd be out the door
x

Hi kate. Welcome to the club. My ds used to do that exact same thing. The only way i learnt to deal with it though was to stay in pj's and go back to bed when he did. Know it means you feel like you're absent from the real world (ie not dressed until lunchtime etc)but she's only tiny and you definitely need your sleep.
There are lots of books around which i'm sure you've heard about. Baby whisperer, No cry sleep solutions or the dreaded control crying if your heart could take it ..but 6 weeks is still so small you might be one of the lucky ones and find she settles into her own routine. At least be comforted by the fact you are not alone on this thread!

CC21 welcome back, sorry and all that but secretly I'm grinning pleased our club doesn't just start sleeping and leave me alone. Pav has been sugesting oragel for teething but you need to order it from the USA. A miracle gel apparently.

Kate I'm suprised you've even discovered mumsnet! I was too exhausted to even communicate with the outside world until at least 2 months after having DD. 6 weeks is still very young. My DD didn't get into anything liked a routine til about week 14 and even then it was short lived hence this thread! Mumsnet is great tho and is a real support and at least you knw you're not alone when you have to get up at night.

Bampa, wish I had some suggestions but I'm sure you've tried them all. 14 month tho. I'm petrified!

Anyone elses 6 monthers getting clingy?

DD slept quite well last night waking twice for plugging and 5.30 for feeding. Progress or a blip? We'll see.

Gn that sounds like real progress. Plugging is 'normal' even amongst 'through the night sleepers' or so i'm told and a feed at 5.30 sounds very respectable. Hope it continues

dandasmummy - wow am impressed and i personally would keep doing the same thing for ar least a week and then try the not feeding. if you can have someone who does not feed your lo go in and settle them

tibsy - its daft but i wish my lo would go to sleep then miss him when he is! could you tell me more about 'gradual retreat' please'

ginger - yes i am dreading the thought of leaving my lo. luckily my mum is doing the childcare so not as bad me thinks

genlay - what a 'mare, ope it all goes well

cc21 - have you tried medised - did not help my lo but my friend said it was the only think that helped her lo when teething

kate - i am impressed, i could not even write my own name when i had a 6 week old. the no cry sleep solution is a great book well worth a read

bampa - i was hoping the walking / crawling might help so you've dashed my hopes (just like everyone saying weaning would help!)

well i think that is all the catching up. lo refusing morning nap again but had another ok nights sleep

Kate been thinking about you in the shower...GN's right. Don't put too much pressure on yourself my ds was at least 14 weeks before he had anything resembling a routine and even then teething/colds/weaning etc disrupted it all over again.
Ignore what you think ytou 'should' be doing and jsut go with the flow. I found as soon as i accepted I was no longer in control it took the anxiety and the stress out of it a little bit. Sending you a hug

morning all!!
welcome to kate76. agree with the others that 6 weeks is still V little, but i would seriously invest in the no cry sleep solution book as it offers you lots of gentle tips to get them into a good 'sleep routine' for want of a better word, from an early ag. you can also pick and choose what will suit you and your lo.

ginger i am fortunate in that i've been working on sats so dp can take over. feel comfortable with that!! i nearly started crying the other day when i thought of her going to nursery and shes not even going! get a grip woman (me of course, not you) i really feel for you. am offering no practical advice i'm afraid, just sympathy agree with them needing to feel secure, and yes i know not always the case, but dd slept quite well last night.
bed 7pm (on own.. !!
fed 11pm (HUGE FEED)
fed 4.45am
up 6.30am
so why do i feel SO knackered today?!

genlay big hugs to you and good luck with the presentation

kiera - 3HOURS.....3HOURS....!!!!!!!

cc21 hope things improve for you soon, at least we havent had a taste of the good stuff to know the difference, well apart from a week at 3 months....

bampa - welcome back!!!!

swizzler - sounds like improvement and good luck with the daytime naps

sorry lori. i also thought moving onto solid food would be the answer to my prayers but alas no. Maybe when he goes to school he'll be so tired he'll sleep!!

thanks girls. i am definetly going with the flow at the moment...she is so tiny still and i am pretty chilled genereally, just a bit dazed this monrning and in need of like minded souls! my mum advised me just to enjoy her and not get obsessed with routine and she will just eat and sleep when she needs to at this age. i think it is more me in that once she has been awake in the night i cant switch off and am listening out for every snuffle and noise.
thanks for the book suggestion!

ginger, meant to say, dd has just started really crying when i leave the room, not always, but sometimes and she even did it when her beloved big bro went upstairs the other day. she was having a bad day yesterday and carried her everywhere, thank god for slings!!

lori21 - website is www.bwiki.ebrey.net then search for sleep training gradual retreat. should be no crying involved, i dont do crying!!

bampa - hows the gym going?

Hi everyone, hope you're not all too exhausted. It's so wearing this business of broken sleep night after night. I will admit that I am weak, I need sleep!!

Well after our one night when DD only woke once, last night she woke three times...
Still at least I know she can do it and she settled after a quick feed each time last night. I'm just so thankful that we seem to have moved on from the waking 6/7 times stage!

Don't know if it is coicidence, but the night she slept well was after a day when we went for a three hour walk with her on my back. Could the combination of fresh air/outside/contact with mummy/movement have just made her a bit more settled?

Mmm not really a solution though as don't want to go for 3 hour hike with a baby and a 3yo every day.

kate - good for you!! my lo still eats and sleeps when she wants to. we have a limp order to things, but she knows when and how much she wants to eat and when and how long she wants to sleep. even if the sleep thing doesnt correspond with mine!!! stay with us, its a good thread for support and we'll have plenty of suggestions for later

very funny tibsy! as you well know (or can guess) i still haven't been back to the gym. Infact i've cancelled my membership because they informed me they are closing the creche which i was hoping to settle him in to gradually so i could do the odd class during the day. Now i have the perfect excuse to be a lazy cow! How i've missed your cheeky one liners! x

beachcomber lol!!!! hmm, a bit drastic everyday methinks, ha ha. but good to know tho. thank god for the nicer weather. may perk us all up a bit, altho may have to consider a black out blind to encourage lo to stay in bed longer than daylight-oclock!!

Cheers lori. Have given medised when dd has had a stinking cold as it clears her nose (think I'll try it in a bit). How long can you give things like this for when they are teething? I don't want to have to be giving her medicine for days/weeks/months on end!!! Oh god, I really feel sorry for myself today sorry. At least I should be grateful I've had a taste of her sleping through.

do you think this is a sign my ds wants me to get off the computer...he's pulling my leg out from under me by my sock!

bampa - he probably just wants you to take him out jogging in the pushchair, ha ha ok i'll shut up now, i'm only jealous!!

ginger, was reading that at 29-30 weeks, babies do become more clingy and irritable as they are learning about distances. its progress!!

What a lot of postings! I shant respond to them all right this second, but.
Well done to all who had a better few days
Hello and commiserations to all those who are new here
Sorry - to all those who continue to have rough nights.

My last two nights, briefly.
Night before last:
7:30pm - went to sleep at 7:45pm on her own, awake after BF.
11:00pm, almost on the dot, woke, BF both sides. Did not settle until 11:40pm, but did this on her own.
5:45am - woke up on her own. played with toys for 20 mins. Came in with us, played.
7:15, fell asleep in bed with us
7:45am woke up, BF, snoozed.
8:30am woke up, we got up.
DP stayed in bed until 9:30am. Again.

Last night.
7pm - fell asleep whilst BF. Only had one short nap in day. WOke her to feed more, took another BF whilst sleeping. Out for the count by 7:10pm.
9:30pm, woke, had a cuddle from me and DP for 5 mins, went back to sleep on her own.
1:30am - so far so good right? BF, as I missed her 11:00pm feed. Straight back to sleep.
4:15am. Wide awake. nothing worked, DP a pain in the ass. 6:30am. DP goes to work, BF LO goes back to sleep.
7:10am. Awake, BF. Sleep until 9:00a.
9:00am rudely awoken by telephone.

Better, of sorts.

crikey! I can't keep up! This must be the most fast growing thread on MN?! Will catch up later as my Mum is visiting from Worthing which is why I havent' been on for a couple of days. Hoping to dip in later.
HOpe you are not all as shattered as me . But, i am really enjoying hte beautiful sunshine