new 'SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK' thread

[tibsy]

hi ladies, the other one ran out of space, so if no one else starts a new thread, here it is....

Hi,
I haven't posted for a while. I'm back at work now 3 days a week so seem to have less time.
Since I last posted DS has slept through once (11-6) which was great but has since gone back to 11pm feed then up at 3 or 4am then up for day at 6:30am. I thought the 4 am feed might be habit but some days he'll have a good feed then other days only a few sucks. Last night he was up at 5am but wasn't hungry just wanted to be up - he kept grinning at me! I put him back but he just cried and cried so got him up again and he had a bit more of a feed but then was just crying. Eventually I got him up and put him in his bouncy chair where he fell asleep. He is so confusing, I'm just not sure what he wants.

myrtle - how are you coping with work on disturbed sleep? i know what you mean re. milk intake, some nights dd drinks loads, other nights, she just nibbles. cant see that her intake is drastically different during the day

pav, are you feeding dd usually when she wakes in the night. sorry if you've already written that fact, its my sleepless addled brain

lemonadegirl...i know lots of people recommend dreamfreed, but for me it went wrong! my lo used to sleep a long stretch early on, say 7 til 12, but i used to wake him for a feed when i came to bed at 9.30 ...i know, early!...and now he inevitably wakes up for one, which means my sneaking off out for an evening secure in the knowledge his dad or a babysitter would be fine, is now blown!
i guess it depends if you think they are waking up cos they are hungry. mine obviously isnt, in the morning hes not at all interested in feeding, just wants to get up and is bored of being in bed. grrrr.
gave my lo some pear today, which he loved. seems to only like the fruits goddamm it. trying on parsnip in a couple of days though.

hi maebee- well done on your nap success. dd never napped in cot until i made a real effort to get her to. still only has 30 mins usually, but its just a bit of space
have you tried carrot and sweetcorn? dd loves that. she too has a sweet tooth. well, she would if she had any! havent tried parsnip, that should have a nice texture too, willgive it a try myself

Tibsy - work has been ok and I actually felt less tired after a days work last week than I would have if I'd spent the day with DS! I guess its because I was just sitting at a computer all day.
Maebee - My DS is exactly the same. He is a lark and wakes early and is absolutely raring to go but not interested in a feed until about an hour after getting up and then its only a few sucks!
DS loves pear too and adores parsnip. He lunges at the spoon when its parsnip but he's not too keen on any other veg.

Tibsy - I only feed her once now during the night. She has what used to be adream feed at 11-11.30pm, now wakes for it herself usually, although i try to pre-empt it. I will then only feed her after 3am, but now seems to be starting a pattern of around 3:15 - 4:45am. My main prob is after that - she is quite random with her wakenings. If she wakes up any other time I am trying PU/PD, apart from last night!!!

I am a bit concerned that I have just messed her routine with last night. Been told once you h=get a routine, if you break it your screwed for a week - oh no as she had final immunisation today for pneumococal (sp) booster and has a cough so might need some more tlc .

Sweetcorn and parsnip sounds good - LO loves parsnip too. Have you tried the superfood pots? Spinach, parsnip and basil is good.

Made fish pie this afternoon, 6 lots for freezer. LO loves it. (also made 4 individual shepherds pies for us 2 x veggie 2 x meat, how about that for domestic godesstry? [grin) (kitchens a state tho!)

pav - hope lo ok after jab. its rotten for them esp with all these cold germs going around dd needed constant tlc when poorly, still does at the tail end of her cold, but we've had a lovely day at baby group, met the bookstart bear and she loved him! shes just gone off to bed now, blowing raspberries!!

domestic godestry a gogo!!!!! i feel like a complete slut in the kitchen at the moment. lazy beyond. have managed to whizz up some chicken and veg dinners for dd tho and have frozen some. fish pie sounds yum!

am trying to cut down on the feeds during the night and try to get her back to sleep without feeding her first, if she objects, i obviously feed her, noisy otherwise!! just wish i could feed her up enough in the day so she didnt need a top up at night

Tibsy, my LO is constantly scratching at her ears and head. It distresses me when she cuts herself but I check her nails every day they're like little daggers. She's just gone to bed scratching, crying hard and getting really hot and bothered. When DD comes into my bed I either take off her babygro or just take her legs out and have her arms above the quilt.

Lemonadegirl, I'm not sure about the dream feed. We always lifted DD out for a feed before going to bed which was roughly about the same time each night and she has now definately got into a habit of waking at that time because she does it on her own. The odd occasion when we haven't lifted her and she hasn't woken up she's just slept right through that feed and fed at the next one. It's definately never prevented her from waking in the night.

My LO sucked on some purple sprouting broccoli earlier and flung a carrot baton on the floor. Turned her head away for pureed apple although I know she likes it but it's this spoon business. I'm a little worried that she isn't eating anything just following BL. I know they're not supposed to be at this age but when others are getting spoons and spoons of puree down their lo I feel like I'm starving her.

Anyone else eating the food their lo won't eat while weaning? I know I'm gonna get fat but it seems easier than putting it in the bin.

Hello,

I'm only up to 10 weeks of sleep deprivation, not in the league of some of you hardcore sleepless ladies yet! Not to be selfish, but I'm glad to know there are a whole lot of other children/babies that don't sleep because everytime I talk to a mum whose 4 week old only wakes up once to feed in the night, I go really crazy...

Anyway, am feeling rubbish most days.

Hope you are all making some breakthroughs.

Amberjee: infuriating, isn't it? I have the ONLY baby I know in RL who doesn't sleep through and it can be hard work keeping my temper...

I won't go into the ins and outs of my DD's sleeplessness...let's just say, if she's not deeply asleep, she wants milk NOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW-WWWAAAAAHHH!

But the worst bit is she's now learned two new sounds, the first is a giggle, the second is a fart sound. So she keeps breaking off feeding to giggle or blow farts at me. So not only does she wake me up every two hours, but then blows farts at me when I do drag myself into her room for a feed.

Oh and at my postnatal class EVERYONE claimed that their LOs were sleeping through. It took weeks for them to admit that they just ignored the little sods from 10pm till 6am (which I won't do because I don't agree with that particular brand of parenting).

Have been too tired to post today. DD was awake last night from 12.30 am till 4!!! Nothing and I mean nothing would settle her. Am off to bed now to catch up on sleep in case tonight repeats itself.

BTW when I crawled into bed just after 4, DH suggested I give her some teething granules as "she likes them". I despair of my DH and my DD, she has been so good but a right royal sod for the past week.

'Good'night all....

Ha ha, Swizzler. I am constantly hearing mums complain that their LO doesn't nap in the day, but on investigation find out that their LO sleeps from 10am to 6am without waking or somesuch. RIGHTTTTTT ....

Oh dear, I'm hearing waking noises as I type. I thought it was too good to be true that he went to sleep at 7.30 - it usually takes me at least until 9...

welcome tinkerbell and amberjee but sorry too that you've found yourself in this club
Wishing everyone a good night x

we are united in our sleeplessness! Let us take comfort in that . I still maintain that the worst of it is that you never know what the night will bring. To think that we now consider 2/3 wakings 'a good night' is ridiculous! But we do!!! . The thing I find worrying is that I don't know what action to take to fix it. ds would be so much better off if he had undisturbed sleep and I keep thinking that cruel to be kind may be better for all in the long run but I lov ehim so much (and dd who needs to sleep!) that I can't bring myself to do the tough love thing. I can't even bring myself to refuse him night feeds even though I know he does not need them. Grrrr. Maybe he'll grow out of it

only two wakings last night again . i am shattered of course as ds insists on starting his day around 6am despite wakings

Much better night last night: asleep by 6pm, brieg waking at 6:45 the woke for feed at 10, 1:30, 3:45 and woke for the day at 6:30. I'm counting that as 2 wakings during the time I was asleep . Perhaps all the sunshine is paying off?

Hope you all had a good night.

oh dear, mine believes it is morning at around 3am I think.

Oh dear Amber. Can you get a nap in during the day?

Morning all... and welcome to all your newbies.

Had a 'good' night - best in ages
7.15 asleep in cot
DH went in a ssshhhed / rocked at abtou 8.15 as I went out
11.15 crying - bf till asleep in cot
3.15 crying - bf till asleep in cot WOW
5.15 woke up coughing - bf till asleep in our bed
6.16 awake and 'talking' to DH

I'm counting that as only 1 real waking - its great how we con ourselves!

ginger - the 'mantra' of all the BLW parents is 'food is for fun until they're one' so aslong as you are offering lots of different textures, flavours, etc don't worry. Lots of lo don't eat much solids and babies will 'self regulate' so you can't starve or over feed. Oh yeah and I often eat 'left overs' but often we have the same meals so occasionally I end up giving him some of mine.

My lo loves sweet potato and butternut squash - both great for beginning finger foods as they are firm to pick up but turn to mush very easily. He had lentil curry with rice, cucumber and tomato strips followed by some nectarine for tea. I love red lentils - you can turn them into so many different dishes and he loves to scoop up a handful and eat himself. Only problem they are a nightmare to clean up when he throws them on the floor.

morning all. Not great night here but not the worst we've ever had. went down at 7.30 unitl 1am but then woke and was up until 2 ish in pain.Get his big molars atm. Brought him into bed with us and he slept until 7.30
cruise ncss says that up to 2 wakings a night until the age of 2 is normal and we as parents may have unrealistic expectations. makes me feel better! x

poor night for us too....cant count the wakings, but enough that me and dp got to argue a couple of times about each others rubbish tactics .
managed to get him to sleep in his cot this morning for 30 mins only, but only took 15 to put him down. my lo always goes back to sleep about 8, after waking at 6ish for good, the books say thats too early!
yeah, 2 wakings a night sounds doable.
did everyone leave night weaning til after 6 mths? my bf counsellor woman who is really good, says i should in order to keep my milk supply rampant, but i cant decide if i think its worth it.
me and dp were arguing about how we should do nights when lo is in own room. i want to do it in blocks of at least 2 hrs, so i can have off duty sleep, but he wants to do relay, like 20 mins each trying, which is no good for me, cos i take ages to fall asleep. how do other people do it?neither of us have to get up for work btw!
re: ncss...sounds interesting, i too think 2 wakings sounds reasonable. i am entering negotiation with the boss of the house to suggest he sticks to it. think me and my dp need to form a parents union rather than allow my lo his divide and rule tactics!

morning all and a welcome to tinkerbell & amber. sorry you're here cos of lack of sleep tho

our night was ok she says not entirely convinced
bed at 6.45pm
woke at 7.45pm (held hand til back to sleep)
woke at 10pm (into bed with me, wheres my resolve?!)
12 fed
2.30am fed
5.55am up for the day!! (its getting earlier - ye gods!)

swizzler i'm with you and counting that as 2 wakings when i was asleep so whoo hoo!!!

bampa - poor lo hope he feels better soon, how was your date!

cc21 -

tinkerbell, sorry but at your lo's new sounds!! my dd went to sleep blowing raspberries on my arm last night. was trying hard not to laugh, although am sure i wouldnt find it so amusing if she was waking me up with that!

cruise - dd used to wake at 6.30, then it was 6.15, today it was 5.55. dread to think what it will be tomorrow a.m

ginger - brought dd into to bed with me after all last night but pulled the covers down. i hate seeing the scratches on her makes me so used the toenail clippers on her last night and found that a lot easier. her forehead clear this a.m apart from old scratches

Well, another pantsarama night in the ninja household. We had wakings at 10.30, 12.30, 3.15 then she was awake 'til 4.30! She was wide awake and I brought her into bed at 4 because I was going potty getting up and down and she just laid with me staring into space for ages She finally went to sleep and I managed to accidently wake her at 6.30 because I'd got into an uncomfortable position and needed to move.

She's been mega whingy already this morning and it's driving me nuts. Tears I can just about handle but this constant shrill whine is so irritating.

What did I do to create this non sleeping baby? All of my friends bar one has had babies that sleep. And i believe them because they actually had lives when they had their children. I'm not looking for a night out just a full night sleep

Maebea, I also take ages to go back to sleep so would favour your choice. Can you not do one night on one night off?