'Sleep is for the Weak' for anyone with August/Sep 06 DC's

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GM, Cruise and anyone else with LO's born around August/September 06' - this is a support thread for when you have no clue as to why your LO is doing the exact opposite to what they were doing last week and when you are thinking WTF????
Post on here and we shall all compare notes and comfort each other!!

Sorry forgot who asked but DS has had his own room for some time now mainly due to DH being very opposed to the idea. He put up with it at first so I was happy to compromise when DS was about 2-3 months. DS quite likes it, he lays in his cot after waking from his day time nap talking to himself before we go in to get him.. very sweet

genlay - for your good night, i have had them and know thye will return {grin]

my lo was a lot harder work until recently, now shes rolling and a little more mobile, she'll stay on the blanket playing with her stuff for longer. she seems a lot happier (less frustrated maybe)? and an absolute joy (most of the time!!!!)

good grief, so many posts to read. will do it later . ds slept from 7:30pm woke at 12.40am then again at 5:45am! brought him in with me and he sucked/slept till 7:10am!

cruise -

been following this thread hoping for answers and secrets of happy baby sleeping for a while....am currently typing one handed cos got my baby asleep on lap!only place he will go 4 morning nap.
but i can deal with that, the washing up can wait, its the nights that are doing me in. he used to be pretty good, sleep 7 til 1, feed, feed again at 4ish, then wake at 6ish. now he wakes miserable every 2 hrs, or less, throughout night. not always to feed, just to be helped back tosleep. he even does this if hes in my arms, and i have to sit up and rock and ssh him.
we used to get an evening, but started going to bed at 8, cos so tired.
hes 5months, bf, quite a grumpy baby...high need, i believe its called!! he sleeps right next to the bed, or in the crook of my arm, and, like someone else mentioned, he sleeps better on his side.he was a forceps delivery, and wouldn't be put down for a second for the first 3 months.now he does nap in his buggy if we walk him in it. he was colicky, and we had cranial osteopathy, which i thought might just be hippy shit, but it really seemed to help.
hes a massive baby, 18.10...which is 8kg...and does everything early. hes crawled a bit, can sit up etc. weve started him on rice cereal, which he loves, but doesnt seem to make him sleep better...possibly even worse???
i love him to pieces, but on those nights i feel so angry with him. i couldnt do CC, and i wouldnt even try, cos when my boy wants to cry, he just cries and cries, and he can not give in for hours!!!
will it get better on its own? would moving him to his own room prehaps help? he always seems to wake when i come to bed, but im not sure if im just wishful thinking. my partner thinks he's too little for his own room, but my partner sleeps a lot better than me!
god, im obsessed with sleep!!
its my birthday next saturday and ive asked for an afternoon nap!!!
oh, by the way, ive been out quite a lot, when my son would just sleep 7 til 1, i went out all the time, and he's never woken for a babysitter!!!which is usually his grandma who was hoping to see him.
love mae.x

maebee, welcome, but sorry that you felt the need iyswim
no answers i'm afraid, we've had some good nights and some bloody awful nights and if you've read the posts, you'll know that its a bit of a yo yo situation for a lot of us.
there are lots of ideas to try, and what works for one doesnt for another we just keep trying tho.
i know that the best thing we can do for our lo's is to teach them how to fall asleep without props (boob, rocking, cuddles etc), but actually doing it, thats another thing....
if its any consolation, i had a hard time with my dd for months, she refused to be put down, so was either in a sling or attached to my boob. it HAS got easier. she's 6mths next tues! i think for a lot of them, its just maturation and being developmentally ready. you sound like you're doing the right thing in that your lo obviously wants the reassurance of being held and comforted.
its such a short space of time in the grand scheme of things, and altho its bloody hard work at the time, it will pass.
sorry, probably not too much help, but keep joining us, new things come up all the time

maebee, what time are you giving babyrice, i've found if too late in the day, the digestion process disturbed dd's sleep. just a thought

Morning all

we had a pretty good night last night, lo woke for feed conveniently (for dh) at 11.30 drained a bottle of formula and slept till 4.45am ds1 was up at 3.45am needing the toilet and had pooed in his pull-ups - dh sorted that one out thank god - then they both slept till 7.30am - so we were v lucky

cruise - congrats on a better night so happy for you.

maebee - welcome. you sound just like me about a month ago. my lo also would not be put down for the first 3 months and slept in the sling unless he was out being pushed in the pram. slept in 3 or 4 hourly spurts then suddenly went to 2 hourly at 3 months. have a look down the thread at things we have been trying (moving into own room, dh giving a bottle, doing pu/pd), he has improved hugely.

Pavlov - yes we moved lo into his own room a few weeks ago when he was about 4 1/2 months. I didn't want him to go either but in the end we had to try it as getting so little sleep...it made a BIG difference, he started sleeping better straight away. Solved the problem of trying to get him out again at an older age and it was wonderful having our room to ourselves again

tibsey - hope you manage to catch the poo without nappy on ! ds1 never pooed without a nappy on until toilet-trained. ds2 has pooed on towel, in bath, in swimming pool aaaargh!

genlay - sorry to hear about your lo getting so frustrated w his toys, how old is he? I found ds1 was much happier and less frustrated once he got mobile, around 6/7 months.

My LO, pooed outside of nappy for first a few weeks ago. It just so happened to be when I was doing a 'quick' nappy change without a towel underneath at my very clean, tidy obsessed sister's house, and unfortunately she had a little upset belly. EEEEWW. My sister laughed after initial shock, insisted she clean it up herself, armed with bleach etc (its my child's poo FFF I explamed), and laughed, (but I expect it will be etched on the memory along with the time I was sick over her new sofa, dragged out at xmas and birthdays, what?! I was 18!).

DD slept 'ok' I guess. She slept well until 3:45am, then seemed to be up constantly since, woke for good at 6am, I know. DP said at 5am, why dont you bring her in to bed with us, she is just having an unsettled night tonight, thats all. Like HELLO, we are trying to help her sleeping, not make it worse! Any other DPs/DHs not get it at all?!

kiera DS is 6.5months. He's been crawling for about a month now and became less frustrated straight away but still not 'normal' until a few days ago. I can't stop staring at him now playing on the floor with his toys like I thought babies were supposed to.

Welcome Maybee i know what you mean with the late night anger I was not prepared at all and although I was fond of DS it took me quite a while to become attached to him - how can you when you're so sleep deprived?
Also relate to the birthday request except I forgot my bday just after birth! only remembered when BIL called. I promptly called DH whose excuse was that I had failed to remind him! the cheek!
I did get a few hours off that weekend though (which I used for a nap)

MacBee, I could have, and probably did, write that thread myself a month ago. Everything you said rang true. I would get really cross with my DD and then hate myself for feeling cross, it was a horrid vicious circle and I think I came close to slipping into PND (I certainly felt very very low)I also won't do CIO/CC. My LO used to sleep 7 til 11 then tl 4 then til 7 and settle really well each time. About Christmas this all changed and she was waking every hour or so. It turned out there were a number of us in the same boat hence this thread. The good news is, this have calmed down a little, the bad news is, she still wakes and sometimes for two hours at a time.

I agree with Tibsy, I think it's developmental. I don't think it's a coincidence that they're all about the same age doing the exact same thing. Maybe it's wishful thinking though but I live in the hope that it'll get better.

Pav, I will experiment with moving her after friends visit next weekend. I hope it helps, I'm anticipating it being a bit worse for a while but that could be because I'm actually going to miss her and want to justify bringing her back!! Stupid isn't it?.

Cruise, good for you.

Kiera, I've cried everywhere. I moved the week before DD was born and my new neighbours would only ever see me in floods of tears walking up the road!! The smallest thing would set me off.

Stretching feeds during the nigt isn't really going very well. Fed at 11 and then woke at 4. I tried to resist but ended up feeding at 4.30 and one dirty nappy, a bit of singing and grunting later and she slept 'til 6 then in with us 'til 8. Marvelous.

pav, cant really comment on bringing lo in to bed as suggested by your dp as i'm a part time co sleeper myself.
prefer sleeping with dd in bed to dp atm anyway

Pav, DH doesn't really get it either. He thinks I'm MN obsessed too and made some glib comment this morning about spending too much time on it. F@ck off. It's my support cos you're so useless came the reply!!

(He's very good really but there are some things men just are rubbish at really aren't there?)

Tibsy, LOL, I soooo agree with you. DD comes into bed most mornings and I love waking up snuggled next to her. If I wake up snuggled next to DH he tried for LO2 and I'm just too friggin tired. lol

Tibsy - LOL, we had wanted to do co-sleeping properly, but DP did not quite manage giving up smoking. I think it is great, but as I am desperately trying to get a routin with LO at night, think bringing her in when she fusses wont hekp. I much prefer it when she wakes all smiley and then comes in for cuddles/dozes! Not that it happens often!!

LO always comes into bed AM, just not that early!!

LO ginger

ginger - here here, or should it be hear hear? thats the LAST thing on my bloody mind at the mo am quite happy with a nice glass of vino and a bar of choccie for my naughties thanks!!!!

pav, do agree with you, re. routine, but 1) i love co sleeping and 2) i'm too chuffing tired atm so its easier

I am attempting to cut my coffe down as mentioned in response to Redbeki I think it was. I have had one so far. Since 6am. Thats it (waiting for applause)

3oz of milk, lots of BF, out like a light. For now. I bet it will be 10 mins! am gonna go get white tea (yug) and tidy the hallway as she is determined to crawl into it as soon as I put her on the floor.

My LO does not do cuddles in bed anymore anyway, she does jumping on head and giggling these days.

Realtively new to mn and just found this thread. So comforting to read about your experiences. Keep meeting mums who's children sleep 6 until 6.My ds is 13 months and still doesn't sleep through the night. We co slept until he was about 8 months and then he wriggled so much that one night I put him in his (so far unused) cot beside the bed. He now spends have the night in it and the other half with us. He still wakes every 4 hours almost to the minute. Think it must be habit now but don't know how to break it. Don't want to put him in his own room yet or do cc. Will soldier on and hope that as everyone keeps telling me when he's walking he'll be so tired he'll sleep all night. Won't hold my breath!

welcome bampa - my DD is crawling/standing/walling - almost. She seems to sleep less!!! Sorry