'Sleep is for the Weak' for anyone with August/Sep 06 DC's

[justJAM]

GM, Cruise and anyone else with LO's born around August/September 06' - this is a support thread for when you have no clue as to why your LO is doing the exact opposite to what they were doing last week and when you are thinking WTF????
Post on here and we shall all compare notes and comfort each other!!

morning ladies,my dd has had the best night s sleep and the worst in a week.I know how you feel cruise,coz last night was the worst ever,she was awake for over 2 hours and cried quite a bit too.which she never does.Dp was on sofa bed,so he slept like a baby!I feel sick,I feel so tired,>I've been having too much caffeine this week to keep me going,so maybe it's affecting my milk,and making her more lively.vicious cirle,I know.hope your night was better cruisemum? There's no sign of teething yet,so it can't be that.Terrible.

redbeki - soo sorry. you have my total and utter sympathy. ds woke 2 hourly last niht. so i am exhausted and feel defeated today. . when will this end? will they grow out of it? i suspect not. it is awful that the only solution seems to be cio/cc. too young yet and fills me with horror anyway. dh has said he will give ds a bottle tonight and put him to bed. I am dreading it.

I'm with you cruisemum .What do you think my evil caffeine theory ? Just rest as much as you can today.I'm going to have to feel human !

Have to,to feel human I mean

maybe the bottle will help?

redbeki - i just feel like i am spending my days longing for my nights and when the nights come i don't get what i have waited all day for!!! . dunno about the caffeine theory . wish it was true though as then i could eliminate caffeine from my diet and know lo would sleep!

I know what you mean,hang on in there sister,it will change.

Redbeki - I hope your caffiene theory is not true, or else it means I could have resolved the sleep long time ago...I think I drink too much (i know I do...). I just cant help it, dont smoke any more (YEY), hardly drink, eat healthily etc due to BF, its my only vice. I dont like tea, or herbal stuff, or plain water, I am stuffed...However I do think it sounds very plausable. How about we both give up/cut down for 3 days and then compare?!

Cruise - know what you mean about BF to FF, I am there too. at almost 8 months, she still is hit and miss with the bottle. What does your DS do when you give it to him? My LO turns her head, cries, fights it and now she is stronger arches her back out of my arms or whereever she is. However, I find that if I insist long enough she seems to give up and take it now. Saying that, it varies from time to time. My 'routine' is sort of this...

7am - BF
8:30am ish Breakfast. Sometimes 1oz bottle if she does not want BF.
10:00-10:30 - between 20z and 50z of FF, then top up of BF.
1pm lunch.
2:00pm ish between 0oz and 30z of FF and top up of BF.
5:30pm 0oz - 4oz FF, BF then tea.
7:30pm between 2 -6oz FF and lots of BF
9:00pm often BF, not always
11:00pm BF, refuses bottle, end of story
3am BF, never takes a bottle. Ever. She wants more BF during night but I have started to refuse it. I think she gets plenty.
6am, often wants more BF, sometimes I give it, sometimes not.

I have tried just stopping the BF during the day, she still drinks little FF, I am despairing of ever getting her to take the bottle properly. Like you I dont know how mch BF she gets now as it is so up and down I dont know if amount has reduced.

I recently tried no.3 MAM teat, she did not like it to start but seems to prefer it now.

This routine deviates often and by a lot. sometimes she takes 6oz bottle in one go, more often than not she will refuse it completely.

I am with you Cruise. Its soooo hard!

What do you think of this theory. Stop BF altogether and only offer bottle? My Dp thinks that what we have to do, go cold turkey.

8:30am should read if she does not want breakfast, not BF! She never fails to want BF!

pavlov - your dp (though I hate to say it) is probably right. But I cannot bring myself to stop cold turkey as i love it even though it is a blessing adn a curse iyswim.
I am gonna print your routine off and check it out. i wish i had more structure to my day. i'll type it out fior you to peruse. maybe it will look better in print!

I think he might be right too cruise, but as with you, I cant bear the thought of not doing it. I was hoping to do bottle day time and BF morning and evening. I feel so mean even making her wait for BF tho, how will we cope withdrawing it completely

OMG my Lo has tipped water all over her and onto her dinner tray. She is now playing with the mess of toast and philly, banana all mixed with water and some sweet potato puree she chucked over it. She is a state. I will be sweet and run DP a nice bath for when he gets home from work in an hour...and she will be going in it too! I am devious in my kindness!

pavlov - my idea was to just bf first and last thing too! ds doesnt protest too much at ff but he just doesnt take much! chews the teat, rolls it around in his mouth, knocks it out with his hands etc. monkey!! . he takes about 2 oz usually plus the wasted expense!! lol at your lo's table manners {grin]

your ds and my dd - snap! She does the same mostly, chews it etc. Does yours go to sleep in protest eventually. my DD did that just now, 'pretended' to be asleep instead of taking it. Then fell asleep!
She was absolutely caked in food and had a good bath to clean her up. Smells yummy now.

and cruise - my LO took about 2oz only when she was 5-6 momths too. I guess they know what they prefer

myrtle - your lo sounds like mine, first stretech of the night ok atm, then, the sleep periods get shorter. i refused to feed her on 1 waking last night as she'd only fed 1 1/2 hours previously fgs.

been to work this morning and feel absolutely knackered now. think i'll join dd in bed at 6.30

re. the caffeine thing, sorry to burst your bubble girls, but i only drink 1 cup of coffee a day, 2 at the max

Maybe we should experiment with cutting out the caffeine,but it's the only thing that keeps me going.I only have two cups a day,but last week I've been drinking diet coke,which I never normally drink .She's had another day of 2 power naps,and I'm losing my mind.She's normally so chilled out but last 2 days really niggly and not as smiley.maybe teething is starting.Mad thing is, I'm hardly b.feeding,just two feeds a day,and at night.

hows things kiera?

how old is your lo pavlov?

hi redbeki!
tibsy/pavlov - wot happened when you refused night feeds? i never refuse as i don't know wot fuss he would cause and i have dd/dh to consider (well dd mainly). also it is (usually a quick fix solution). i am too tired to be faffing with rocking etc. rod for my own back i guess but i am a coward
my ds never falls asleep om bottle as he only has day bottles. not sure he would at night but i know i'll have to try soon.....

redbeki, funny you should mention diet coke, the 2 nights when we had the 2 hr screaming abdab sessions in the middle of the night, i'd had diet coke. just 1 in each case, but i havent drunk it since because of that.

cruise - when i refused to feed dd, i took her into bed with me and cuddled her. she cried for a few mins and then conked out in my arms. knew she wasnt bloody hungry.

may try that tonight if a) he has recently fed or b) i have the energy!

know how you feel, she's jsut gone down really well, but because i was at work from 9.30 this a.m til 2.30, she refused the bottle and only had her solids. she didnt seem that bothered about milk when i first got back but had a good feed later and been on boob most of afternoon as well as solids for tea. probably hasnt had enough thru the day and will want to feed all night. great
to top it all off, have started period, 1st since becoming pg, probably due to weaning and dp has gone out to watch rugby at the pub so will probably come back s**t faced.
apologies for the rant
hope you have a good night