'Sleep is for the Weak' for anyone with August/Sep 06 DC's

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GM, Cruise and anyone else with LO's born around August/September 06' - this is a support thread for when you have no clue as to why your LO is doing the exact opposite to what they were doing last week and when you are thinking WTF????
Post on here and we shall all compare notes and comfort each other!!

Cruise thats so funny because I always moan at DH for not helping enough but then when he offers I push him away because I don't want anyone interfering. I'm torturing myself uneccessarily by not taking any help, I know. I think there is a part of me that feels like a bit of a failure if I don't do it and also feels rejected if DD is happy letting someone else look after her! Bonkers I know.

She is definately teething today. Has hardly slept and has been very hard to settle and is waking up screaming very frequently. I'll let you know tomorrow but I'm thinking I'm going to have a long night.

Marls, how do I cope? I've no idea. I know I feel even worse if I get one good night it's almost like my body has adjusted. I do feel constantly tired though and my eyes feel like they're carrying the weeks shopping in bags underneath them. I can't really concentrate on anything much, haven't got much motivation to do anything other that walk to the shops or watch daytime telly but hey ho. Lets hope it's a phase.

Cruise thats so funny because I always moan at DH for not helping enough but then when he offers I push him away because I don't want anyone interfering. I'm torturing myself unnecessarily by not taking any help, I know. I think there is a part of me that feels like a bit of a failure if I don't do it and also feels rejected if DD is happy letting someone else look after her! Bonkers I know.

She is definitely teething today. Has hardly slept and has been very hard to settle and is waking up screaming very frequently. I'll let you know tomorrow but I'm thinking I'm going to have a long night.

Marls, how do I cope? I've no idea. I know I feel even worse if I get one good night it's almost like my body has adjusted. I do feel constantly tired though and my eyes feel like they're carrying the weeks shopping in bags underneath them. I can't really concentrate on anything much, haven't got much motivation to do anything other that walk to the shops or watch daytime telly but hey ho. Lets hope it's a phase.

Are you a first time mum too ginger? I think that's why I moan to DH to do more and then jump in when he tries to
He really tells me off now, says in a low calm voice, "I am capable sweetheart"

thanks marls - some interesting advice. Ds is no longer demand fed because i'm back at work and so need to know he will take my boob when i'm back ( lunchtimes and evenings) He can't seem to manage 4 hrs though ( only did it once) more usually it is 3.5 hrs.

The annoying thing is when he was younger he could sometimes manage 5 hrs in the first bit of his night - now he wakes after his 1st sleep cyce around 45 mins.

I was thinking about trying the bottle overnight instead - or is that replacing one problem for another? Do bottle fed babies wake frequently for feeding too?

I put him to bed an hr earlier tonight as I want my evening back ( 8p instead of 9p) Hope i'm not gonna have to face the world at 5am~!

cruise and cc , u have my sympathys on bF front , (excsue the pun). Ive been feeling the loss of contact , intimacy & thats special feeling of nurturing that comes with BF. I stopped the bed time bf on friday a week ago and over the weekend stopped the morning and now for some reason , due to the one all nighter she pulled suddenly , I also stopped the during the night one. I had already mixed fed for 3mths and it seemed to be ok , but my backs suffered very badly, and most days feeds were bottles so someone else could take over (f there was someone here that is LOL) . I could get some sleep and rest my back. Well thats if dd1 was happy to get in to bed for a little while with me , whist dd2 was napping!!

dd2 has been ill , so sleeps gone out the wndow here and I have no idea how the night will go. As others have said , I can only manage tracksuit and hanging about my kitchen/ consevatory these days with the odd foray to someone elses kitchen table !!! Shopping , parks , soft play and the like are all too much to think about.

I am JJ it shows in the paranoia eh?

no hon, just relate sooooo much

gingerninja- Of course he doesn?t, that would make life too easy. Still just having 30 minute naps from which he wakes up sooo grumpy and they tell you that if they go to sleep on their own it solves all your sleep problems well bo*cks does it

He's still "splorging" all over the place It's been Bodily Fluids Day around here (DS1 potty training so I've seen it all) Trying to get him to keep down even the soy formula ... Can tell he's hungry ... curse the underdeveloped digestive system!!! Has about 1 oz in him now & making him wait it out 30 min ... then will try more ...

Amijee - No proven difference I think between bottle & breast ... some say formula "sticks" more but no real evidence to back that up (that I know of). But it might give your sore body parts a break!

Ginger - I am SO sorry. That's got to be the absolute worst. Please please let your DH help ... even if he screws up at first... mine helps out so much & he's been on a business trip the last couple of days, can hold down the fort by myself of course but can really tell a difference when he's here. I really don't know how single moms do it; hats off to them. Did read somewhere for what it's worth that it's actually beneficial for children to have two completely different parenting methods on a regular basis ... the way DH roughouses with Ds1 sometimes alarms me but I keep my mouth shut ...crazy thing is DS must really enjoy it; keeps coming back for more Boys.

Yes cruise I do miss b/f a bit, but I think stopping gradually helped with the emotional side of things. Was at mil's the other day and dd needed a bottle. DH suggested I let mil feed her. I was horrified and quite emotional that someone else would feed her. So I politely said 'no', and that I still liked to feed her myself as she was only used to me or DH. Weird eh?

Had a good night last night, well sort of. She went to bed at 7, slept through to 3.30. I did b/f her and she was pretty much awake on the hour after that. Me thinks maybe hunger and that my supply is dwindling away to nothing now. Will give tonight one more try and if she's the same will have to move to ff in night. Have heard that with this you can then reduce the amount given gradually till the lo's stop waking for it. Listen to me don't think I have anymore straws left to clutch

Bad night again for us. Waking 1-2 hrly from 8pm onwards and had to feed him lots to get him to sleep.

With the bottle - I wasn't meaning that formula would make him sleep - just that it will kick the boob habit. I think they get addicted to the nice warm comforting snuggle of a boob - who wouldn't! ( Dh keeps telling me that anyway! - he misses it)

To top it all, dh has now got a really heavy cold...so guess what is likely to happen next? DS has been pretty healthy so far.

I share your feelings about the imtimacy though - I know I will really miss the feeding but I also know I've got to stop ( personal reasons - don't wanna go into now)

amijee,thanks for the support. from previous threads i know you are a gp. i am an spr and will be doing oncalls from this month.feel very rusty and low on confidence.
ds did not sleep until 11.00 pm last night but woke up only twice .i ugnored his howling at both times and he fell asleep after 5 minutes. if you arent convinced his night wakenings are due to hunger, maybe you should just let hm cry for a few minutes.

Aimijee, sorry to say I was pleased to see your post. Not because I wish you sleepless nights but because my DD was also up almost hourly between going to bed at 7 and us getting up at 6. (that's with the exception of 4-6am, two solid hours of sleep. How lovely!)

LOL Kbaby. It makes no difference here either. Sometimes she can fall asleep beautifully on her own and it makes no difference. 30 minutes later shes wide awake and grumpy.

You guys stopping the breastfeeding. I can sympathise. I'm going to feel very emotional when I stop. CC, Sometime ago I was expressing for DH to do the evening feed but when MIL visited I stopped because didn't want her to feed my baby. Stupid eh but feeding feels like one of those intimate acts of motherhood that I don't want to share, no matter how knackered. It's probably the tiredness making me irrational!

Marls, I must have missed something. Does your DS have reflux or something? Sounds distressing for both of you.

JJ You've gone quiet. Are you hiding the fact that you've had lots of delicious sleep?

lol ginger, please don't make me post it as it always goes tits up when I do I can't leave though, your like my family now

Gosh theres been alot of posts since I've last been on.
Well ds is still not sleeping through. I thought that we'd had a bit of a breakthrough in the last few days as he'd gone back to waking at 2 and then 4 but he's started to get a cold and I'm not sure whether the Bronciltis he had is coming back too. So those have made his Reflux worse and the sleeping shocking.
I'm hoping it will settle down again when he gets over his cold.
I'll go and read the other messages now.

Hey guys, this is great thread. Alas to say I have not the time to read the entire thread, as sooo sooo many. But its good to know I am not the only one with sleep depravation! Hope you dont mind me sharing stuff, whilst I spend some time reading the messages.

My DDs slleping went out of the window.just before xmas, after almost 6 months of blissful sleep. My DD went to bed at 7:30pm, her own choice, she was upset with lights and noise y this time. so, bum change/bath, tummy time, story with me and DP, and lots and lots of breastmilk. She was always awake and would grimble to herself for about 20 mins, then sleep. She would sleep through to 1am, but needed to increase feeding due to weight concerns, so dream feed at 11:30pm, awake at 4-5am, then 7:30am, happy as.

At beggining of new year went visit ill mother in Kent at my sisters, her children were v unwell with horrid chesty cold, did not tell me until I got there. Isabella got it the day before we went to US, so, as well as jet-lag was blocked, coughing, high temperatures (never had a cold before this), and, did not sllep great. Came back to England, and it took three weeks to get to bed before 11pm. Now she wont really sleep before 9pm, wakes up hourly, or sleeps fitfully for couple hours, wakes up yelling. And wide awake by 7am, apart from today - 8:45am, but was awake between 4am and 6am solid.
Alas poor thing has another cold, again from her cousins, unavoidable this time. GP said no ear infection, which is great, so now we dont know what it is. I know right this second its likely to be a cold, but feel it has been out of sync for so long it wont ever be right again!

Any suggestions welcome! Once I have read some things I might get my answers!

welcome pavlov
You are now offically part of the family

YEY!
I have to say, it is refreshing to know that this seems very very common!

So, shall I make strong coffee for everyone?

~My DD just gone to sleep, yey, she did it herself, just got back from shops, dozed off in car seat whilst i put shopping away. Phone rang. Now wide awake full of cold and grumpy!!

Giner he does have reflux But as it turns out, what we've been struggling with is a highly contageous stomach virus Hoping rest of family doesn't come down with it too.

Welcome Pavlov, you're in good company. I've exhausted every excuse possible for DD not sleeping. Just don't know what's changed. She has been awful since around Christmas time. Before which she was waking at maybe 10.30 and 3 ish for feeds and settling well. Now, it's anyones guess.

Marls, sounds dreadful. Hopefully your Dr. can sort you all out. Poor little mite. Must be very distressing for all of you.

Yellowfeathers, same to you. Sounds awful. Hope your DS feels better soon.

Sending lots of sleepy vibes.

(DD has been in bed 1.5hr and just woken for the 3rd time. We're tearing our hair out here!!!!!!!!

havent had a chacne to read posts but am just checking in so I don't lose this thread off my list. More tomorrow - n'nite

ginger - how old is your DD? Mine is 7 months tomorrow. She is currently asleep, took an hour (good), some calpol, some karvol and some baby orajel. She has cold and chewing on a finger, so might also be in teething pain. We have put a lot of it down to teeth, but it cant be, surely?!

Do you think my 7 month old should go in her own room now? I wonder if we are disturbing her? My DP likes to figit a bit and tends to do it, just as she stirs and thats it, she is awake...I just dont know, up to recently, we thought we would mever want her in own room as she was so well behaved! Now, I just want to sleep and for her to sleep. Like pretty much everyone else here!!

Another coffee anyone?

make mine a decaff - I don't touch the hard stuff...actually how about a decaff caramel macchiato while you're at it!

Hi Pavlov, my story exactly ( incl the travelling) except my 6 mth old ds was never a great sleeper from the start.

He's now woken 40 mins after being put to bed...lets see what the night holds.

He's also started to grab me and dh when we hold him so he can tell when we are trying to put him down - what a monkey!

Well, I'm going to get some zzzzzz's and see what happens - early start again tomorrow.