Anyone on for another 4 month sleep regression hand-holding thread?!

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DD2 is 16 weeks and had been doing 7pm - woken up at 11.30ish for a feed - 5 or 6am. Happy days.

She is now waking up anytime between 7 and 10pm, going back down but reliably waking up for 2-3 hours between 3 and 6am. It is torture. I know this is a predictable phase that will pass, but christ it is miserable.

Waiting to see what tonight brings . I know there had been an active thread that seems to have died - hopefully meaning that all those babies are now sleeping beautifully

Saranga - I'm of the opinion that if they sleep anywhere just go with it! But if you really want the Moses then perhaps he's grown too big and is hitting the sides? Perhaps move to pram or cot?

He does regularly hit the sides of the moses basket - could that be bothering him? He's a little titch and is only on the second centile so I hadn't thought about him finding it too narrow! I'd only thought about it heightwise, and he's got tons of room to get taller.
Hmm.maybe we could try moving him into the cot.

Last night was terrible. Ds was up no less than every hour.

He did actually go back to sleep after his feed but I couldn't.

This morning he did a poo that went everywhere , just as we were about to go on the school run meaning poor ds1 was late.

Fed up.

Oh and I haven't washed my hair since Thursday and I've got to go out this morning and I look like a bag of shit.

Saranga - I'd definitely try the cot. My DD got very big for her basket and kept waking herself up by hitting the sides! We got a Sleepyhead for her cot. A lot of money and sadly has not guaranteed sleep through the night but my god has it helped. She's such a little mover and groover but the Sleepyhead keeps her cocooned.

Oh pyjama, that sounds like hell. You poor thing. Wish I could say or do something but all I can do is offer you much sympathy and

Thanks, I shouldn't moan, he's healthy and beautiful. Ds1 is so kind to him and accepting of how much attention the baby is taking.

I just wish he'd sleep. I feel bad being on this thread as I don't think he's sleeping nearly as badly as some, and we do have the odd really good night.

He was coming into our bed a lot, he sleeps so much more soundly there. I don't mind, but I am a deep sleeper so concerned I could roll on his, dh is a light sleeper so gets disturbed. I'm also just aware it's not as safe as the cot.

He's so loud too. The day he was born the first thing I thought when he cried was how loud he is.

You have my sympathies pyjama.
We were feeding every 2, hours last night, but co sleeping so I wasn't too disturbed.

I'm finding co sleeping difficult. I don't like sharing my bed really but it does make her sleep well. Thing is she rolls into me so she face plants into my armpit basically. Any way to stop that? I've tried dragging the sleepyhead into the bed and sneaking her into it so she's right next to me in it but she susses what's going on and immediately cries. Might try he hot water bottle trick with it tonight but any other ideas?

Wish I did but ds likes to sleep right next to me with my face right up to his and my arm tucked under his legs.

He will go to sleep in the cot but if he wakes up alone he's not happy, and he can wake up a lot.

I spoke to a neonatal nurse about this. She said if he rolls to you he can roll away and there's not a lot you can do about it. However, I have a sleep apnea monitor which will tell me if he stops breathing.
Whenever I've moved him away from me onto his back he wails.

I'm feeling quite betrayed that I didn't know about this regression before I had kids.
Cluster feeding makes sense to me. Feeding to sleep makes sense to me. Suddenly waking up and refusing the moses came as quite a shock and I'm feeling drained by it all.

I think she's ok breathing, it's more just that it's annoying having this little thing breathing into me and trying to get nipple access through my pj top I'll try to get her in the sleepyhead more tonight as I sleep so much better.

bigtroubleinlittlenappies.com/baby/guide-to-co-sleeping/

I found this while googling cosleeping.

Honestly read it, it gets quite funny half way through I hope that it will make some of you tired lot smile

Good article pyjama!

Apols everybody, I feel like mi' taking over the thread.
Is sleep regression mea.t to affect daytime sleep too? Bc my boy's day naps are fine. He wakes up,self settles, and sleeps for about 2 hours. He did 3.5 hours today.

It's just nights he wakes up lots. TheHV suggested o put him in the cot I stead of the moses. I think we'll try that.

Think it does in some babies Saranga. My DD's naps seem to be ok though. Well, not that she's napping in her cot but at least she's napping!

So, after 3 good nights of sleep, it's gone to shit again. We were away again at the weekend, and once again, she slept well in our hotel! Followed by another good night at home...then getting progressively worse. I can't figure it out.

Tonight has been awful. Awake at 11pm...just starting to doze now. But that's in my arms. If I try and put her in her sleepyhead- even though I've put it on the bed next to me - she screams. She had her jabs today so it's obviously affected her.

I honestly don't think I can carry on like this.

I keep fantasising about the pre baby days when I took sleep, lovely sleep, for granted. I really had no idea what hell night times would be with a baby. I feel like I've ruined my life and health.

I had 2 nights which were pretty good, by good i mean he went down at 12.30 and was up at 5 for a feed and that was him up for the day. Yesterday he also had a random 3 hour nap (wtf where did that come from) and dh was off work so ds was rapped up asleep in pram and me and dh fell asleep hugging on sofa....it was so good i could have cried, until a bastard charity person rang door bell and ruined it. Last night though he didnt go down until 1.30am and has been up since 4. Im currently sat in living room drinking coffee...

I've had 2 nights now where she's just UP in the night. I was that she would wake for feeds, I'd feed her and either get her back in her crib after holding her for a bit, or she'd come in with me. But the feeding isn't getting her back to sleep. She's just awake, not even upset. She spent 4 hours last night just rolling around sucking her little lovey blanket thing I gave her.

What am I supposed to do with that? Battle with her to try to get her to sleep or just try to ignore her and sleep myself until she cries?

She doesn't seem to have days and nights mixed up as she doesn't nap excessively and I'm getting her out into the sunshine every day (if there is any!)

Fluffi I'd ignore her. If she's happy then leave her to it. Grab what sleep you can.

After the boys epic 3.5 hour adternon nap he had 2 bouts of 5 mins sleep andbthen was too wired to settle. We ended up going to bed at 8 and he fell asleep suckling. I think he may have been suckling for the next 4 hours bc when I woke a midnight he was still on.
He needs to go in a cot upstairs for the evening, he is too distracted by downstairs.

Suckling for 4 hours sounds hellish!

Tried and failed at an earlier bed time tonight as Dh is at home and felt guilty that he doesn't get much time with her (exactly 7 mins per day if he's working). Will try again tomorrow. When she's up in the night though I do start to panic she's flipping day and night. She did nap well today, only 3/4 hrs over the day though so hopefully that will just help tonight and isn't a sign that she's got her days and nights mixed up??

I forgot last night she also slept for ages whilst I got insomnia

Sleep has gone to pot here again. Ordered a sleepyhead grand to replace the deluxe we borrowed but after being told that they 'don't recommend' them for babies younger than 8 months we sent it back. 4 days of trying to sleep with no sleepyhead have been horrendous! He keeps refusing to go down and is waking every hour or so. Have a sleepyhead deluxe ordered to collect from John Lewis tomorrow. Fingers crossed it helps again!

Helen, think we'd be lost without the Sleepyhead too now! Ok so she's still a crap sleeper. But I think without the SH, it would be so much worse! We'll prob end up getting the grand version too.

Round 1 - down at 9, yp at 10.30, still awake now and grumpy as hell as he is so tired but fighting it. Roll on the teenage years where i wont be able to get him out of bed!

new to thread when will this sleep regression finish. This will be the fourth week now. Overly tired, have a friend coming around tomorrow and the house is messy but my energy when I'm awake is zero. Currently with dd who has woke 2 times since 8pm, for two hourly periods

No idea Beautifulbella, we're 22-23 weeks here and no signs of it stopping. Up every 2 hours again last night.

Helen and Purple, we have the deluxe too and I'm wondering about the grand for when she goes into her own room. I notice amazon have much cheaper hippy chick side bumper thing but worried it won't be as good! I did have some success with her sleeping without it this week on her side though, but don't trust her to do that anywhere but on the sensor mat as I know side sleeping isn't advised. She can also roll onto her tummy now but can't roll back so the sleepyhead has been great to stop getting into difficulty or rolling into my bed when she's in the side crib.

I meant 22-23 weeks old, she's not been doing it for 22-23 weeks...yet

Fluff sounds like day and night are fine as 3/4 hrs good for naps at this age. When I say fine I obv don't mean the nights part!

Another shit night here up every 2 hrs then every 20 mins between 3 and 430am. I swear I don't have any milk left by morning and I really want to start to express to try and at least get him on a bottle (eurgh don't even get me going about dairy free formula -so vile I can't be giving him that)

Anyone else loving life right now?!

Saranga your charity worker comment really.made me laugh.