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Misery Loves Company...nope. Still not sleeping.

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ElphabaTheGreen · 13/02/2015 14:32

Long-term sleep deprivation getting you down?

Join us here for Brew Brew Brew and plenty of sympathy.

Ride the mo-fo out or something must be done - the choice is yours.

And remember the First Rule of Sleep Club - do not mention that things are going well or you will PAY.

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RaspberryBlonde · 27/02/2015 01:04

He obviously git one of those fluke days where you do everything the same and they have a really long nap just to keep you on your toes scotty!

Attitude that sounds hard, hope you got some evening in the end. nothing worse than feeling like bed yourself by the time they're asleep.

Just resettled after our second wake up here, think she are coming down with something else as she feels quite warm. Am wide awake annoyingly even though I have only had about an hour's sleep so far. Off to try again...

scottygirl5 · 27/02/2015 06:08

attitude and raspberry did they settle in the end?

RaspberryBlonde · 27/02/2015 06:57

I think we had two more wake ups after that, poor baby, she kept coughing jst as I was getting her to begin to drift off.p

Expecting a tiring weekend as have visitors so any cosleeping will have to be on the floor as they'll be using the spare bed.

AttitudeOfGratitude · 27/02/2015 09:08

Morning. I managed to get him to settle for a couple of hours at a time after 11ish, not quite as hideous as it could have been but not great. Poor little guy. He's still a bit off this morning but hopefully it won't be as bad as yesterday.

How was your night scotty?

scottygirl5 · 27/02/2015 10:00

Not too bad actually, all in with me but only waking every 1.5-2 hours Smile. Hope both your LOs are better soon.

RaspberryBlonde · 27/02/2015 13:56

Not too poorly here but goodness this dropping naps is a pain. She managed to last until after lunch, went down quite easily but then popped up again after half an hour which will definitely not get us through til bedtime. Have snuggled her up on my lap and trying not to think about all the housework...

Any Ann magic yet? Elph is your DS2 playing along so far?

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ElphabaTheGreen · 27/02/2015 18:49

He's sticking to the script so far. We're weaning off the swaddle and tomorrow will be the first night he goes without it completely. I will be so glad to see the back of that bastard. quite deliberately avoiding mentioning anything good that may or may not be happening to avoid The Curse of the Thread

He also did his first two hours at nursery without me yesterday. Ate loads off a spoon for them, natch HmmAngry

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AttitudeOfGratitude · 27/02/2015 19:24

We have had another day of teething misery, such fun! Hoping he's better this weekend although at least DH is around to share the pain. Tonight he is asleep but I am unable to get him off the boob without him fussing. Fed up now!

Lilipot15 · 27/02/2015 19:34

Hope the poorly babies get better soon. I'm waiting for DD to come down with the next bug - went to a group today and there was a rather miserable little baby who kept coughing and spluttering....tried to sidle away which felt awful, but I also felt for him that maybe he'd rather not be there. However I remember those times when sometimes a mum just needs to get out of the house. Tricky really. DD has first week of two days in a row with childminder next week. Whilst our naps aren't too bad, it's another story there - she optimistically said to me when she hadn't napped "well you should have a good night tonight"....cue hollow laugh from me, and guess who was right!!

Lilipot15 · 27/02/2015 19:36

attitude I found that ibuprofen given with food / milk feed helped with night teething pain, lasts a bit longer than calpol too.

AttitudeOfGratitude · 27/02/2015 19:55

Thanks Lilipot, he had ibuprofen before his bedtime feed so fingers crossed. I've managed to get downstairs and eat dinner at least Smile.

I hope your DD stays bug free.

RaspberryBlonde · 01/03/2015 20:41

Still poorly here Sad. She went to bed at 7.20 and I'm currently resettling her for the second time after she's soken herself coughing, poor thing. Looking forward to a long night; can't wait for all these winter bugs to be over!

Hope all is well with everyone else.

AttitudeOfGratitude · 01/03/2015 21:48

Hi Raspberry, sorry your DD is still poorly. I hope she gets better soon and that your night is better than you expect.

Ds has had some sort of viral bug as well as teething. He seemed much better today and last night was pretty good after multiple wakes Thu & Fri nights. He is still not eating much of anything though bf fairly frequently. Going to take him to the docs for a check up tomorrow but hopefully he's on the mend.

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ElphabaTheGreen · 02/03/2015 08:11

Swaddle weaning not quite going to plan here. He's fallen asleep without it a couple of times (very reluctantly) but his frequent startling, triggered by absolutely nothing it would seem, means he cannot stay asleep for longer than a few minutes or sometimes even seconds.

The sleep deprivation is making me do daft things. Weird combinations of words keep coming out of my mouth and I'm doing strange things with the laundry - pulled a clean wet load out of the washing machine, then proceeded to reload it into the washing machine; eventually got it into the dryer; came downstairs this morning to find I hadn't actually turned the dryer on Confused I seriously think I'm sustaining permanent neurological damage from all of this...

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scottygirl5 · 02/03/2015 08:12

Sorry to hear your DCs have still been poorly at the weekend.

We had two good nights of waking every 1-2 hours but re settling quickly and then last night we were back to waking eevery 30-60 mins and screaming while being cuddled back to sleep, not even settling after feeding. Start doing our sleep diary for Ann today so at least if it carries on like this she'll get a good picture of what it's like! Attitude has the bug interfered with your Ann work?

AttitudeOfGratitude · 02/03/2015 09:10

Scotty it hasn't interfered so far as we're doing foundation stuff. I did wonder if it would delay the next step but we'll see what Ann thinks. He's much better today and we actually had a very good night last night. Sorry things have worsened with you guys. Not long till you start with Ann, which package did you go for?

Elph sorry getting rid of the swaddle isn't going to plan, hopefully he'll make further improvements this week.

scottygirl5 · 02/03/2015 19:35

Oh elph poor you, good luck, I sympathise with the constant waking, we have nights like that. Are you back to work soon? Hope you're getting more sleep by then. Glad to hear you're still on track Attitude.

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ElphabaTheGreen · 02/03/2015 19:41

I'm back to work at the end of next month. Sad

We're yet to have any let-up in the constant wakings as Ann's process is very gradual. Bedtimes are a bit different at the moment, but that's all. We had a chat today, and we're expanding things slightly so I'm parked here next to his cot watching him sleep, waiting for signs of rousing. Yet another, 'how the hell did people cope with the boredom of this before iPhones'. Grin

He's a tough little nut to crack, so Ann already thinks we might need another week or two on top of the three we're scheduled for. I kind of suspected that would be the case when I submitted the sleep diary.

Oh. Stirring...

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ElphabaTheGreen · 02/03/2015 19:55
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FraterculaArctica · 02/03/2015 20:03

Hello all, have been distracted for a bit by the excitement (?) of moving house and town and a resulting gap in internet access, starting work with Ann (no obvious progress here, but it's early days), and starting DS at nursery (horrendous - he howls for hours every time I leave him there. Am seriously reconsidering whether this is the right setting for him).

Have I missed anything exciting? Anyone's DC actually sleeping better now?

Lilipot15 · 02/03/2015 20:36

scotty at least you can send Ann a realistic picture. Fratercula hope the nursery improves - do they have any useful suggestions? How old is he? Guess there has been a lot of change....we are about to go through the same thing, adding in a new baby to the picture so I do want to get DD settled into a nursery in the new town before the baby arrives, but I am aware it may all be a bit much at once (it feels it for me too when I think about it too much!!)
Does anyone else feel that this sleep deprivation is causing a total lack of other life? I am in bed so early every night, don't even have the energy to lie on the sofa and watch TV. I went out with friends on Saturday for first time in ages, out till midnight, had a fab time but felt awful the next day...got up early with DD, (who had fortunately settled for DH, unlike my last night out when I came home to two very miserable faces) then last night was a killer. So PJs on and bed for me! I know it'll pass.....

Lilipot15 · 02/03/2015 20:39

Oh and childminder off sick so not getting any of the things done that I needed to do these two days. The plus side is though that DD will get more daytime sleep with me, and they do say that sleep brings sleep I believe. DH wouldn't believe me seeing the plus side, have iust had a small meltdown about how much stuff I have to do that never seems to get done....

AttitudeOfGratitude · 02/03/2015 20:59

Welcome back Fratercula. I'm not sure that's necessarily the appropriate salutation for this thread but welcome anyway Wink. Sorry that your DS doesn't seem to be settling well into nursery. What other option did you think might be better for him?

Liliput you don't do things by halves do you! When are you moving? I hope it all goes well. I know what you mean about the impact on your life. I haven't been out in the evening since before ds was born except to Tesco and DH and I have not been out together. Midweek we are generally in bed 9:30/10 ish or I am asleep on the sofa. Weekends we go a little bit crazy and stay up later Grin. I'm hoping this will improve soon. I hope your childminder is better soon.

Took a while to get ds settled tonight. I think he was a bit over tired. He was tired and getting frustrated that he couldn't get to sleep. Hopefully we'll get another decent night but you never know with him. We have a call with Ann in the morning to discuss next steps.

AttitudeOfGratitude · 02/03/2015 21:00

Sorry Lilipot

FraterculaArctica · 02/03/2015 21:45

Good luck with your move Lilipot - are you moving far? Remind me how old your DD is? DS is 11 months, so peak separation anxiety age and with a fairly high-needs personality anyway I could have predicted that nursery would be traumatic... I'd kidded myself it would all be OK. They just say I'm doing the right thing in leaving him with them brightly and briskly, but I have a hunch this is not going to get better soon.
We'll persevere but might look into childminders as an alternative, I think he might be happier with more interaction with one specific carer. Hope your DD settles more easily, have you signed her up for a nursery? How long have you got till the new baby arrives?

I wonder if Ann has any non-MN clients, all her time at the moment must surely be taken up talking to those of us on this thread!