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please help, doing cc now and it's awful

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Evita · 14/04/2004 20:59

Dd's been getting worse and worse about going to bed in her cot. It's been mostly in the day but tonight it's happened when I put her down at her usual time and she's just not going to sleep. She's standing up saying 'mamma' over and over in the most pathetic little voice and I'm only going in every 15 minutes to repeat it's time to sleep and lying her down and leaving very quickly.

Are there some kids that cc just doesn't work with?

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irishmammy · 18/04/2004 20:58

tried cc once...he threw up...didnt try it again!

Eventually changed his room, put up more posters, lots of his toys in there, 2 teddys which always stay in bed, bedtime stories all kept in his room, encouraged him to play in his room during the day (so he would like being there even during the night)...it seemed to help.

Also we added Valerian/Hops to his last drink at night and put a drop of lavender (or sleepy drops as he calls them) on his pillow

Hulababy · 18/04/2004 21:00

Fingers crossed then Evita. Your bedtime routine now sounds lovely

hercules · 18/04/2004 21:02

Sounds lovely Eviat. Wish someone would pamper me a bit.

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Evita · 18/04/2004 21:39

Yes, hercules, I know what you mean. There's dd in her sweet little room while poor dp and I bed down on the lounge floor in the corner!

irishmammy, I'm going to spend more time playing with her in her room now too. So that it feels to her like a room she likes being in.

Do you all think then that cc is for the specific thing of teaching them to get themselves to sleep on their own, but for changes in temperament it's perhaps not the best / only way?

Ixel, I think that it's supposed to be after 7 months that you can do cc. But others will know more about this than me. I didn't do it ever until very recently and as you'll see from this post, have mixed feelings about its success. Having said that I might have to try again if the current plan doesn't work! I don't think it's meant to have any lasting psychological scarring effects.

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karen99 · 19/04/2004 10:35

Hi Evita, I fell asleep reading your post it was so lovely (only kidding, you know what I mean!)

I must admit, after always saying my ds needs to cry for a few mins before going to sleep, we've just had 3/4 nights when he hasn't! and it was because I stayed with him and stroked his head and, I guess, made him feel 'safe' in his cot. We have had one night when he was just lying there still and I had to leave as I'd been standing bent over for 10mins and he cried as soon as I left, but it only lasted 5mins and dropped to 5mins of grizzles. I'm going to take the suggestions from this thread too and start playing in his room more and making it 'his' etc.

IMO I think you do need to leave them to settle themselves at some point so they learn how 'to go back to sleep' by themselves, but now I do agree that the initial 'going to sleep' might need a different approach if cc isn't working.

E, Let us know how things go over the next couple of nights.

gloworm · 19/04/2004 10:47

i did the whole "make it his room" thing and i't certainly helped.
its a rented house and has a double bed in it so we let him sleep in that (pushed up against one wall and a chair and pillows against other side).
it made him feel like a big boy (sleeping in same type of bed as mum and dad!

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Evita · 19/04/2004 20:49

I'd love to do that gloworm, I think dd would really respond to a big bed but we've got no space at present.

Well, just to update. Tonight worked like last night but today's nap was a disaster. I ended up taking her out in the pram again. I don't mind it's just that I really get shattered at the end of a day with literally no break at all. And then 5 days of it in a row also get to me. But I can't seem to get her to be happy about going into her cot at nap times now. I feel so nostalgic for just a few months ago when she went for two long naps every day with barely a whimper ...

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gloworm · 19/04/2004 21:04

how about making up a bed on the floor? Folded up duvet to lie on, pillows around edge to "define" the edge of the bed. we tried this for a while and it worked quite well.
also this is a really easy place for children to play in during day

Hulababy · 19/04/2004 21:08

Hi Evita. Glad to hear the night time is still good

My DD (24 months)still will not nap in her bed during the day. So she is allowed her daytime nap - if we are at home - in mummy and daddy's big bed. She responds well to this. I also do the same routine in that I darkened the room, put her under covers - not in Pjs though, quick story, kiss and cuddle and then go. Or else - nap is in car seat if in car, or I take her out in the pushchair after a lunch for a walk.

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Evita · 19/04/2004 21:17

Thanks Hula,

Yes I think being in our bed would help but it's in the lounge so I wouldn't be able to darken it or really get on with anything else while she slept. Though I am thinking of just taking the phone off the hook and having a lie down with her on the bed anyway! Not sure she'd sleep but it might be worth a try.

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Evita · 20/04/2004 13:00

Just suffered through an hour of 'mamma ... mamma ...' but she's gone off to sleep. I'm determined to try to crack getting her to sleep in the cot in the daytime again. It's too much for me to walk her round in the pram and she won't sleep with me. I just have to have a break or I get absolutely exhasuted. So I'm feeling awful again now.

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karen99 · 20/04/2004 14:31

Hi Evita, I too find daytime naps hard to deal with. Each nap is different to each other let alone each day.

Can you sit in the reading chair whilst she drops off? Did you put dolly to bed too?

How is the night time?

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Evita · 20/04/2004 20:05

Hi karen, yes I did everything the same as at night which worked a treat again tonight, out like a light! I do want her to be able to sleep in the cot in the day though so have to persevere with it. Yes, I know what you mean about naps being variable. We're almost always the same time but how long she sleeps can be between 1-3 hours for no reason I can ever really put my finger on. How are things going with you?

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karen99 · 20/04/2004 21:25

Arrgh, where is that manual we were promised when they were born? (not!)

Like you the new nighttime routine has worked most nights and I'm enjoying being there for him and no crying! I never knew it would happen and all along it's been there and I didn't see it. Part of me feels awful about that, like I should have tried it earlier, but then again it may not have been something he could settle to earlier. As he gets older and wiser (!) he needs change and I'm prepared to change more often now (ie. look for it rather than wait for it).

Daytime... well that's still another story. With his busy social life he seems to have one sleep in the car and sometimes a second sleep in the cot. I keep him awake (m&b groups are always at the wrong time!) and he then goes down exhausted or he's catching up with sleep cos of teething. Just can't seem to win and never get anything done around the house (except spend the odd 30mins on MN!) Maybe he needs a few boring days in the house/garden and some consistency..

Sorry, have run out of advice on this one, but will keep checking the sleep page for more ideas... someone's bound to find the answer

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Evita · 21/04/2004 10:03

Yes, I wonder how many toddlers actually sleep in the cot / bed in the day and how many nap in cars pushchairs. Maybe I'll start a new thread about it.

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maomao · 03/05/2004 21:34

Hi Evita,

It's been a few weeks now, and I was just wondering how things have been going nighttime-sleepwise. My dd sounds like yours (but younger), in that she was previously a great sleeper, and now is going thru separation anxiety at bedtime....

Would love an update, if you have time!

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