SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

[cakebaby]

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

Hi Cake... I'm new here, but nice to meet you
Sorry you are getting rubbish nights, that must be hard if you are working.

Some kind of miracle has occurred in our house.

On Sat night baby woke at 11pm as usual, but I managed to resettle fairly quickly with no feed. (first time EVER!) He then slept a 4.5hr stretch, which he hasn't done for weeks, slept again and up at 7.30am. So only 1 night feed.

Last night he threw up his entire bedtime feed just after eating it, and after changing sleeping bag, PJ's and my clothes and getting him down, I expected him to wake fairly quickly to re-fill his now-empty tummy.
Imagine my shock when he eventually woke at 5.45am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And even better, after feeding him I decided to try some trickery like missmargot and convince him it was still nighttime and put him back to bed, and he slept again until 8.15am.

This is the longest stretch he has ever slept. Not sure what to put it down to. Only things different were going for a walk in pram between last nap and bed (we are normally out and about in the morning) and starting weaning. He munched his way through most of a nectarine yesterday. Or, it could be complete fluke as usual!!

Hi, I haven't posted in here for a few nights but we are still in 4-5 wake up hell and the longest stretch is about 2 hours from when he goes down at the start of the night and then every 2 hours after. So down at 8, up at 10, 12, 2, 4, 5 and up for the day at 6. I'm getting barely an hour between feeds and usually don't go back off to sleep much after 4. Shattered doesn't describe it.

oh, mrsmugoo that sounds really tough. How old is your little one? Is he actually hungry at all those wakeups or like mine, not know any other way to settle?

He's 15 weeks now. He doesn't know how to settle himself, however he always takes a good feed each time and especially the first wake up he practically launches himself at my boob!

Also to let you know he's a staunch bottle refuser! I've tried EBM and formula and he won't take a drop.

For all the bottle refusers, this has been a godsend for me since 6 mths

www.nuk.co.uk/product/nuk-first-choice-150ml-learner-bottle/

Another vote for NUK here. My DS was a bottle and dummy refuser until we tried their latex teats.

Thanks for the recommendation - I'll add it to my bottle collection! What size teat should I get? It occurred to me that I should maybe be trying him on size 2s now?

NUK only do 2 sizes (I think). Their size 1 is for up to 6 months so I'd go with that.

Oh and hello to all the old 'faces' I've not posted for a while but have been lurking.

I've been quiet because about a month ago DS started STTN again and (with the odd exception) continues to do so (yay!), however he currently thinks that 5am is an acceptable time to be up for the day (booo!). On balance I think I prefer the hideously early waking to getting up in the night, but I really need to start going to bed earlier

Arrggh. Baby has been in bed for an hour and 20mins and still not asleep. I thought he was, came down and was just about to serve dinner and he woke up and cried. Sent OH up as I'd already done an hour up there!!!

I agree, NUK bottles are the way to go, dd refused a bottle up till recently and we tried NUK and now she takes it. Also, tip, try sitting baby in bouncer chair or something rather than holding, makes the feed seem entirely different, worked for us.

Well, Dd slept through the night last night!! Could not believe it, felt like a new woman this mornin, even baked muffins for mums coming for coffee!! Really hope tonight is another good one, but she has already woken twice tonight, brief wakenings, but still wakenings, hopefully that's her settled now. I now have more hope and a little more energy to deal with whatever the night throws at me though, there is hope out there everyone!!

Of course because I typed that DS has been STTN he had an 'exception' night with a 2.20am wake up. They know when we get complacent, they just know...

hi mrsm I feel your pain I had that for months . luckily my dd is a quick drinker and I get back to sleep v fast so we'd be done and dusted in 15 mins. does he take ages to settle after feeds? you could try and slowly put him back in his cot less asleep each time, also at the start of the night. this helps them learn to get themselves back to sleep and for some babies means they cut the night wakes as all babies stir but if they can get back to sleep alone they do. didn't work for me as I was putting dd back wide awake but she wanted a v full tummy or something. but worth a try? mine is also a bottle refuser, but at 4.5m I worked on her and she took a tiny bit. dh could then settle her after a couple of nights with cuddles and a teeny bit of bm. he used to take until 12 so I could sleep unbroken. dd got used to it and pushed back her first wake up a bit. we didn't persevere as she got ill but it was going quite well.

PS personally I don't think they can really be hungry that often at 4m. but for me I just fed each time as it was the quickest was to get us both back to sleep. this probably made the sleep association worse but we cracked that in a few nights at 6.5m.

another good night for us after the difficult bedtime!
He slept until 5.15am, fed, then slept again from 6-8am. It took a lot of convincing (20mins of determined rocking!) but I refuse to start the day that early!

He did actually seem hungry at 5.15, he did his excited panting thing when I got the boob out and he only does that when he really wants to eat.

Another vote for NUK from me. We also had a bottle refuser until these. On a side note, those who are weaning, how the heck do you get them to drink water? My LO doesn't understand sippy cup (free flow) at all, and if you tip if for him he just lets the water fall out of his mouth once he knows it's not milk!

ellie just try a tommy tippee sippy cup half fill with water, put it on the highchair at every meal and they will investigate and get the hang of it..

and sprinkle it on the floor

and chuck it at the dog/cat

Keepitgoing - no he falls asleep in the boob every time but it takes me a while to get him back down in his cot. It doesn't have a height setting so I have to lower him in and it always wakes him. I either have to lift him out, rock him back to sleep and try again or try to settle him with a hand in the tummy which doesn't always work. It's all new to him as he's co-slept up to now but I know I need to start getting him down less and less sleepy.

Anyway he went down first time of asking just now so I am about to join him.

3:30 and on my third wake up of the night.

Down at 8, fed at 11:30
Down at 12, tried to settle without boob at 1:30 but cried. Half hearted suck and he was asleep
Down at 2, fed and changed at 3:30

I'm so tired :(

One small positive is that I've been able to settle him with a hand on the tummy when I put him in the cot either drowsy or if he goes in asleep but the transfer wakes him.

Down at 4. Up at 6:30 I fed and took him in bed with me until 7:30 and DH got up with him.

Hi Mrsmugoo, your lo is 1 week older than mine, I remember you from the pre birth thread

My lo wakes me quite a lot too - last night he went down at 7.30 fed at 11.30, 2.30, 4.30, 5.20 then came into bed with me from 5.40 as he wouldn't settle in his cot! most days he comes in with me from 6pm and we get a sleep until around 7.30 or 8.30!
The previous night was even worse, he woke every 2 hours until the morn then its more frequent.

He seems to drink his bottles for the first two wakes then only a few ounces from the next one, I don't know whether he will just settle without milk during the night.

Im finding it really tough there has only been two occasions where he slept 4-5 hours in a row - but that was obviously just a one off

My mum has offered to have him for a night soon which is nice and my Dp has agreed to feed him at the weekend during the night as he is FF.

I wonder whether I am doing something wrong or I just have a hungry baby - he must weigh over 15Lb now.

Yes, our babies sound very similar! Although yours is ff, which just goes to show formula is not the magical answer to night sleeps.

I've had a thoroughly traumatic day trying to get DS to sleep in his cot. Went ok this morning but after an hour and a half of PUPD at lunch time with a by then, chronically overtired baby in absolute hysterics I succumbed to letting the poor sobbing little lad sleep in my arms.