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SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

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cakebaby · 27/02/2014 20:05

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

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CuteLittleToes · 11/06/2014 12:05

Keep I give him a dummy. I know that this is probably where the problem is. However, he cries so much without it that I don't know how to get rid of it Sad I have done it a couple months ago, but I could rock his crib and he would fall asleep, but now that he's in a cot I can't do it... I guess I have to do it still, I can't function on this broken sleep...

keepitgoing · 11/06/2014 12:33

boo my dd did that while we were away so I thought it was that but then 2 teeth came through. same as you not coslept etc but she just wouldn't go in the cot.

cute I guess the dummy is fine if he's not waking up crying for it etc. can he put it back in himself? or could you tie it to a muslin etc to help him find it? otherwise yes, I guess the dummy is as much a reason to wake as bf is/was. you'll get there

cakeis don't leave! you've had some good periods too, I'm sure we have plenty of fresh hell to come - you're a few months ahead

cakebaby how's the move going?

Artemis sorry to hear of new troubles. I'm glad your dp is helping more though

Cakeismymaster · 11/06/2014 16:33

I have new fresh hell...nap refusal. Today she has had 25 mins in the car seat at 11.15. Since 2.45pm I have been trying to get her to nap...first I walked 30 mins worn pushchair, no nap. Since 3.15 I have been lying on the bed with her - she just won't give in. No crying, just constant messing about, playing, fidgeting. If she doesn't go to sleep by 5pm then that's it, and will start bedtime at 6.15. Battle of wills - she is hardcore! Really frustrating Sad

Cakeismymaster · 11/06/2014 16:50

I am so crap. She started crying and was so tired, I did the horrible shouting 'just go to sleep' then she got really upset, so I felt massive guilt and awful so fed her and she went to sleep almost immediately.
So I am carp for caving in after all that time and horrible for getting angry and shouting Sad Sad

BB01 · 11/06/2014 20:36

Cakeis, I've done the shouting thing about three times in the past few weeks. It's times like that when I realise I really do need to change things though. Be kind to yourself - we all lose our cool now and then.

BB01 · 11/06/2014 20:36

And don't worry about one little blip. You have plenty of time to set things on track again

cakebaby · 11/06/2014 20:49

Hello all. I too was sulking abstaining from the thread but here I am again. We've had a shocking run of night and days, dreadful, dreadful bedtimes with wakings every 10 mins, utter hysterics.... I wanted to weep. We also appear to be in the grip of separation anxiety, ds speed crawling 2" behind me, whining and mumbling like a little zombie. If I disappear from his view he starts shrieking, if dh is carrying him ds has a fixed stare at me like a guided missile.

Dh seems intent on fucking up ds routine, I don't think he even realises though I've told him countless times. I didn't want my life to revolve around ds naps but his sleep is so shit most of the time and when he's tired he's grumpy, sad, won't eat reliably and is bloody hard to get to bed. So I've now said we do things accounting for naps. Its not forever. I don't know what else to do.

So the 1st day dh organises that we go out and have ds awake over nap time, cue overtired baby falls asleep in car on way home, i drop dh at home as I've had enough of him and I drive about for hours just so ds gets some kip as the alternative bedtime is hideous.

Next comes dinnertime. TV blaring, yelling along to music, ds tired & crying when he was put in highchair. It didn't end well.

Next is bath time. Again, blaring shit music, ds crying and struggling. I'm making dinner with a clenched jaw. He just doesn't fucking get it that a relaxing song is not relaxing at volume 1 million or being yelled along to, to 'distract' him. FFS how dh has survived the last 2 days I cannot fathom.

Anyway, we have another tooth and a stinking cold. I feel awful now as I am ashamed to admit I did the shouty thing when he wouldn't stay asleep Blush I didn't notice he was coming down with a cold so horrid that has kept dh in bed sick today.

He obviously felt better last night as he slept from 10-6 which is his best ever stretch. Tonight he went down OK and is still asleep.

Ds is in his own room.....I'm there too, we're back co sleeping.

Well done those with improvements Flowers

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missmargot · 11/06/2014 21:10

The 10-6 stretch sounds marvellous, hope you get the same again tonight. The rest sounds not so marvellous, lots of sympathy.

DS has actually been pretty good, he has slept through twice in the past week and only waking once on the other nights. He is waking hungry, feeding and going back down, which I can cope with. I don't want to risk feeling happy about it in case it all goes pear shaped again tonight!

Mirrhi · 11/06/2014 21:37

Hi all Brew No changes here :( DS continues to wake every 2-3 hours nightly, and now believes 5.30 to be a suitable start to the day (it could be worse, I know). The only positive I can identify is that twice, randomly, in the past week he has napped for around an hour without needing resettling after 30 mins! I'm hanging on to that as a positive....
Cake for everyone, sounds like people need it xx

BB01 · 12/06/2014 07:49

That's good about the nap, Mirhi!
Oh Cakebaby I'm sorry to say your bit about the separation anxiety made me chuckle as it exactly describes DD. It is so hard when you can't even turn the other way without tears! 10-6 is fantastic though and you know he can do it now!

keepitgoing · 12/06/2014 08:59

bb how old is your dd? how are nights now?

cakeis Sad we've all done that. both given in and sworn. don't feel too bad

cakebaby 10-6 is dreamy! well done both of you. hope it lasts

boo how's your not feeding going?

mirr I think that's a great sign actually! hang on in there

K1spoony · 12/06/2014 09:07

cakebaby I'm sorry to say I actually laughed reading your comments about dh! Mine is the same, they just do not get it. Especially with the importance of sleep, we go out for a walk to try and get dd to sleep and he insists on talking to her and then wonders why she gets grumpy?! Oh, I forgot you would love it if someone came to him when he was tired and trying to sleep and started chatting away to him!!

I think dd has got a bit of separation anxiety too, left her for an hour with MIL and she came back screaming and sobbing once she'd stopped crying, I felt terrible! I've hardly left her cos she won't take a bottle. That is this weekends challenge, leaving dh with her and a bottle and hoping she will take it. I'm back to work on August and aware time is running out!

cakebaby · 12/06/2014 22:27

Here to entertain....glad to be of service Grin

Seems we are going through a change here.... could be brief so keeping quiet....back in a few days poss or sooner if all goes banzai again.....

Pleased to report dh survived another day.

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Booville3 · 12/06/2014 22:49

Hope everyone is getting on well/ better tonight ds went down at 7 & no fuss so far not even a murmur, I have lots of people still advising me to stop Breast feeding him completely & move him into his own room, he is 9 months so i probably should move him my complete disorganisation at sorting his room out is a bit of an issue here along side my sadness of the end of an era as once he moves out he won't come back in again & yes I know I'm mad, were all totally knackered on this thread & i don't want to be the cause of my own problems beer but despite all my moaning there are elements to our room sharing that I enjoy & when he wakes just once in the night I find that feed & brief snuggle extremely special! I don't know never happy us women as my DP would say!!! Shock

Booville3 · 12/06/2014 22:50

*here not beer haha maybe that's what the problem is not enough beer hehe

Mirrhi · 13/06/2014 01:45

Has DS just slept 6 hours? I don't know! I know I fed him at 7.30, and he's just woken and fed. I know he didn't wake when I came up at 10, but he must have woken soon after and fed, and I just can't remember Confused.
He can't have slept 6 hours. I've fed him and just can't remember, can I? ???

K1spoony · 13/06/2014 06:50

boo i felt quite sad when i moved dd through to her own room amd said wxactly that to dh, its the end of an era. Im really trying to stop feeding to sleep, only gad onw night where she nearly fell asleep in her cot in the last week.tge rest she has just cried, so i have picked her up and rocked her to sleep, i dont really think thats much better!

keepitgoing · 13/06/2014 09:01

boo I know what you mean too. if it were just one night feed I'd have been happy to carry on for ages. I love it.

mirrhi Grin just say it was six hours and pretend you had that long a sleep.

worse night here I think she's constipated. still just one wake up but it was 1.30-3. hardly any crying but she kept almost sleeping then waking. and rolling over and she's forgotten how to roll back so just cries.

BB01 · 14/06/2014 04:20

Well, I really am hesitant to post this as it's very very early days. But in less than a week, we've gone from pacing up and down the stairs with her half the night, the other half her latched on to me constantly, and hours to get her to sleep to DH settling her in twenty mins in her new cot. She slept eight and a half hours just now. She's accepting milk from DH in a cup (never dreamt this would work). She now may be up for the day at 4.15 but, honestly, I'll take that even though I've hardly slept (too excited). As I said, very early days though. We just couldn't go on like we were so we've done a bit of a combination of partial night weaning, shush pat, gradual retreat (but still in room with her), DH taking over, introducing the idea of her cuddling a teddy and trying a cot out.

BB01 · 14/06/2014 04:21

How are things for you, Keep? And everyone else?

keepitgoing · 14/06/2014 07:15

terrible due to her rolling onto tummy and crying all the bloody time Sad just when things were getting better Sad what can I do? keep flipping her back? leave her?

keepitgoing · 14/06/2014 07:15

bb that's brilliant! Grin

K1spoony · 15/06/2014 22:51

keep my wee one is the same, she keeps getting a fright when she goes right over, but I just went in there and she was on her side, kind of in the recovery position, I popped her back over, but I don't know if I should just leave her, maybe she's more comfy that way. And there's not a lot I can do if I'm in the other room. I just figured from that position she was more likely going to make it to her tummy and get stuck and upset! Ah, the dilemmas!

CuteLittleToes · 16/06/2014 05:57

BB that's brilliant, keep it up!

Mirrhi I hope you get some more of those 6h stretches!

Keep I forgot how old your DD is? Did she just learn. To roll?

A few days ago DS made a new record 6h stretch 9.40-3.50. Then for a couple days wake ups all over the shop and last night he slept 10-3.

The problem is that it's pretty much hourly wakings after his "good" stretch so I'm still knackered, but I'm glad we're moving in the right direction...

keepitgoing · 16/06/2014 08:48

cute that's so positive! hopefully that long stretch will just lengthen Grin

my did is 7m, she's been rolling for three months so no idea why she's just started doing it in her sleep... anyway we have put rolled blankets under the sheet to stop her and it's worked the last couple of nights. last night 7-6 with v short wake ups at 2&4 to move her back down the cot as she'd wriggled up to bash her head Hmm