SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

[cakebaby]

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

[Booville3]

The rice is definitely worth a try, my ds enjoyed his fruit mixed in with it initially but already has started turning his nose up at it he won't touch it now if even the tiniest bit of rice has been mixed in!!! Good job I love him as he is not an "easy" baby!!

[cakebaby]

What are you trying next boo ? I'm running out of motivation!

[ArtemisTheHunter]

Cakebaby we're taking weaning slowly too. A month in DD is still having mostly stewed fruit, sometimes mixed with plain yogurt, or veg. She likes pears, apples and plums, perhaps because they're all ludicrously sweet, and mashed carrot & sweet potato also went down ok. She's been slow to get the hang of finger foods, they mostly end up on the floor, but is getting the hang of grabbing a spoon and wedging it in her mouth sideways while the contents go down her front. I have stuck to giving her fruit or veg twice a day as her digestive system is adapting slowly, she gets quite constipated at times so I'm offering water frequently and avoiding solids later than about 2pm or she tends to wake herself up with wind which is the last thing we need! I don't know how rapidly we are supposed to be progressing but she seems ok at the moment so we'll just keep going and introduce new foods slowly.

Would you believe as I typed that she has just farted herself awake? 3rd wake up so far tonight, I haven't managed any sleep yet despite going to bed at 9.30. Feeding again, hoping she'll go back down, the 2-hour-long wake up has been an unwelcome feature for the last week.

[Tiredemma]

Im giving DD fruit puree with rice too- the rice was too bland and she kept spitting it out.

She has a terrible cold so now this keeps us awake.

Bloody never ending

[Cakeismymaster]

Yep fruit purée and rice here too...tried some veg purée tonight, parsnip and sweet potato and that was met with complete revulsion..so back to apple etc tomorrow.
cake this is a brand new range of rods...'oh you're creating a fussy eater by only giving fruit' etc..but if it's not fruit then she won't eat it!

[cakebaby]

FFS breakfast was met with a clamped shut mouth. Tonight I got the 'no thank you face' to the rice with or without purée. Another night of pear and apple, complete with 'nom nom yum yum' noises. Perhaps I should just offer him something for a taste and leave it at that? But then he'll have nothing. But he can't eat apple & pear forever. Oh crap, why is EVERYTHING so bloody complicated? He doesn't like either of my favourite things...eating & sleeping. Gets it from his Father

[Sunshine200]

Hi everyone. I was on the last thread for a bit - no improvement for me, it seems to have gone from bad to worse. My latest thing to try starting today is a stricter daytime routine and starting in some solids (getting spat out do far though.

CAkebaby - that is good to know. I may take my dd to get weighed on Thursday.

Hoping to get dd to sleep and to watch mr selfridge uninterrupted tonight!

Good luck everyone.

[Booville3]

Hi how's everyone getting on?? We now have constipation, oh my lord when will it end!!!??!!

Up several times in the night (not sure of exact times as finding it too depressing to look!) straining & small "pebbles" the result!!! When do you offer drinks as well as food? By food I mean fruit & veg purées sometimes with some baby rice mixed in? I am bf so I thought that was enough drink but I'm wondering if he should be having water as well??

[NoisyBrain]

I was told to give DS water when we started solids. He's mostly BF but it's amazing how thirsty he gets. I offer him a drink with every meal and occasionally in between.

As for the sleep, after a couple of nights of three wake ups we seem to be back to two (fingers crossed) but the times are still totally unpredictable. Last night he woke at 11.00 and 4.20, which would be great if he'd stick to those times! DP gave a bottle at the first one and I BFd him at the second. Got him back to sleep by about 4.50 but he woke again an hour later, so ended up in our bed. At least he was less fidgety this time and actually slept a bit which meant I could too.

Attempts to teach self-settling have been temporarily abandoned as he's in the grip of teething. He did get himself off to sleep for one of his naps yesterday, as in he opened his eyes as I put him down but then went off to sleep without crying. I think it just so happened that the timing was spot on in terms of him being totally ready to drop off. I couldn't hope to ever get it that right again!

Despite the fact he's now having solids three times a day and gradually eating more, plus 5 milk feeds, he's still waking up hungry in the night. No idea where he puts it all, he's still such a diddy baby (9th centile).

[Booville3]

How long did you have him on two "meals" a day for before you started then giving him a third? Oh my poor ds must start giving him some water!!!

[CuteLittleToes]

I've posted before regarding DS waking up hourly and got an invite from Tiredemma to join this thread. But I thought I can't really join as there was no sleep regression for me as there has never been any progress as such!

However, there hasn't been any improvement and I feel like I need some virtual support...

So can I join?

[Tiredemma]

cute welcome- as I may have already said- we have very little by way of useful advice for one another, but we do support one another - even if its only to scream ARGH at.

[NoisyBrain]

Boo It was about 3 weeks, although I did briefly give him three lots of solids for a couple of days at the end of the first week of weaning. I then panicked that I'd 'broken' him because he started doing really mucousy poos about 10 times a day. So we took a step back and went more slowly for a while. It's only over the last few days that something resembling normal nappy service has been resumed.

It took me a while to realise how much water DS actually needs tbh. Like you I assumed that BM would quench his thirst.

[fflonkl]

I also gave DD water with her meals from the start, but we didn't have 3 meals until about 2+ months in I think.

Re weaning and sleep, I really don't think giving them solids has any bearing whatsoever with how well they sleep (not that I'm an expert, mind!). We went through one of our worst non-sleeping periods just before starting weaning which continued well into weaning, and another horrible time was when DD already had three established meals.

All that aside, DD had a bloody good night last night (she sttn!), and tonight took about 7 minutes to go to sleep with no crying (probably a fluke). Will see what the rest of the night brings ...

[Booville3]

I've been chuckling at tiredemma post all these mums on here, all our collaborative reading, knowledge on the subject of baby sleeping/ sleep cycles etc etc & none of us can actually get our baby's to sleep properly!!

Ladies I think we can conclude our baby's are the boss of us maybe acceptance will make us feel better!!

[Cakeismymaster]

Slightly off topic but let's talk weaning and poo.., pre weaning dd was a twice a day very runny (lots of leaks) pooer. Now a couple of weeks into weaning and she is still a runny pooer but now every 2-3 days. Isn't that a bit wierd?

[Booville3]

My ds has gone from the mother load of poo once every 2-3 days to little hard pebbles on & off through the day & night every night!! It's horrid poor baby so I would take the runny poo less often cake!

[Cakeismymaster]

If the OP of this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2021571-To-NOT-want-to-tell-people-our-2month-old-pfb-sleeps-through-the-night-and-has-done-since-3-days-old?reverse=1

Comes to join us in a couple of months time we must remind her of her thread!!

[cakebaby]

Is it a stealth boast?!

[fflonkl]

Haha DD did that from about 8 weeks, then started changing her sleep patterns at 4+ months.

(And yes, we are up!!)

[CuteLittleToes]

So DS slept from 8.30 to 11.30, had a feed and then slept till about 2.20. I took him for a feed and fell asleep... Woke up an hour later...

Anyway, he fed till 3.30 and then woke up 4.15. Been pretty much awake since trying to settle him without feeding without any success... Realised I need to get rid of the bloody dummy as he starts wailing if he loses it or starts playing with it until he can't put it back into his mouth which also results in crying... So going cold turkey tonight... I think...

And he's pretty much fell asleep on the boob after 10 minutes... I knew he wasn't hungry!

[Tiredemma]

boo its almost like a 'disclaimer'. I am acutely aware that I may be inviting sleep deprived posters over who may think we have 'the answer'- only to find that we are all in a hysterical, tired state with very little by way of answers.

I was trawling the 'sleep' section a few nights ago looking for fresh blood to 'recruit'.

[Tiredemma]

oh- and last night DD was awake for two solid hours between 1-3.

The night before she slept straight through.

So, I deduce that she is flummoxing me.

[Booville3]

Oh dear ladies I must admit although we have multiple wakings they never last 2 hours!!! We had an enormous poo (softer consistency than last few days ? As I've reduced rice & given him mainly fruit/veg or ? His body adjusting to "food"? Desperate times here tonight I'm going to try the sedative banana, although he still gags at lumps so may not go to plan!!!

Anyone offering finger foods? My ds only just 6 months - any suggestions?? I'm not into blw but I can see he might like to hold something in his hand to nibble on?

[cakebaby]

Hi all, welc