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SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

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cakebaby · 27/02/2014 20:05

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

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cakebaby · 05/06/2014 22:30

My dh can join him Wink

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Booville3 · 05/06/2014 22:44

Can't risk anymore ds's for a start can we!!! Not considering the borderline demons we appear to have created!!! Shock

Cakeismymaster · 06/06/2014 12:48

Hi boo, cake
My DH can join them too...as if I want to do anything like that when I've operated all day on a few hrs sleep, done everything for 3 kids and cooked dinner and took 2 hours to get dd to bed and then when I get my usually 20 mins of sitting down time around 9.30 there is NO CHANCE I will entertain any of that! Not that he deserves it anyway!
Mini rant there!

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cakebaby · 06/06/2014 21:23

Well, we have 2 more top teeth today, I had no idea he was cutting more yet Shock so that could explain ds horrific sleep I suppose

Why isn't there a yawn emotion?

How are we all doing?

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Booville3 · 07/06/2014 09:56

Ah cakeb like I've said before I always find it a bit easier to cope with when ds is poorly as I can understand his need to wake for cuddles, comfort, little drinks etc!

Had a fab night here thurs only one brief wake up - think he was exhausted from a week of little sleep, he even looked pale, black eyes etc last night only 2 wake ups but lots of wriggling around his cot etc seemed a bit fitful but we sleep in the loft & it was very warm, need to move him out but I'm such a wimp!!!

Cakeismymaster · 07/06/2014 10:31

Only two wake ups here last night, 12.30 and 4.30 (but thank you ds2 for coming in at 2.30 Hmm
I think it was because I had done a full on dark mode of the bedroom, it was so dark in there - blackouts, curtains, the lot. And it looks like it helped - will see tonight if it was a fluke!

keepitgoing · 07/06/2014 10:51

slept until 4am last night Shock Shock Grin Grin then quickly settled

CuteLittleToes · 07/06/2014 17:06

Well I bit the bullet and stopped night feeding and cosleeping. First night only 4 wake ups, 2 short and 2 long, each lasting for over an hour. First long wake up was more of on and off settling and waking, and second was proper crying... Got through though!

Second night last night and he woke up 7 times Confused but! All of them were short, and he resettled pretty easily.

Come on DS, I want to see some longer stretches now please!

keepitgoing · 07/06/2014 18:51

well done cute! don't backtrack or it'll have been for nothing. for us on night 4 we had until 2, but to warn you night 3 was the worst for some reason. good luck.

K1spoony · 08/06/2014 00:06

Moved dd to her own room last night, only 2 wake ups and of those she only needed fed once! Then she slept till 7.10! I'm really hoping it's not fluke, she's already been awake twice tonight, but back to sleep quickly, just the tricky problem of getting her in the cot and staying asleep! Already tried about 4 times to no avail! Last time I thought I had it, she must've lasted 2 minutes then crying, but not really waking -argh! So sitting with her again waiting to see when's a good time, dh is on a night out, so no doubt will get her settled just in time for him to clatter through the door!

K1spoony · 09/06/2014 08:57

Latest update! Full night sleep last night!!! Woohoo!! Well, till 5.15, but that counts for me! So after being in her own room - for three nights -friday night 2 wakes, only one feed. Saturday, a lot of brief wake ups, no feeds. Last night, no wake ups!! Pretty please let this continue!!

keepitgoing · 09/06/2014 09:03

that's great k! Smile

we have a wake up at 4ish now, but last night I just repositioned her and left her to it and she settled herself. woke again at 5 but resettled herself till 6. I'm still in shock, but loving the sleep!

CuteLittleToes · 09/06/2014 10:26

Thanks keep, he did wake up a lot the night before, but they were all pretty short. Last night he managed some ok stretches but nothing exciting yet...

Anyone's LOs started dropping milk feeds quite early into weaning? DS has been on just 4 milk feeds for a week already, but I've only introduced 3 meals just a few days ago. He is eating quite a lot of solids though... I don't mind feeding him less frequently - I quite like it actually, but at the same time feeling stupidly and unreasonably a bit sad he prefers food to my milk Hmm

BB01 · 09/06/2014 13:49

Brilliant news, K!!! Bet you feel amazing? We'd had the worst couple of weeks ever, having to walk her her up and down stairs for every sleep. I just couldn't take it anymore. So for the past two days I've not fed her to sleep or rocked/walked her for naps or at night. Last night, after not sleeping more than three hours pretty much ever, she slept seven hours, then three more after a quick feed and resettle. I've basically been shushing and patting but in bed and not in a cot (next stage I hope!) so she's basically gone to sleep on me but this is a big big improvement. Can't help thinking it must be a fluke

K1spoony · 10/06/2014 07:30

keep that's great, it makes such a difference to get some sleep!

bb01 I feel for you, my little one is exactly the same, either needs fed to sleep or can be rocked if drowsy, but I really want to let her settle herself. So, I've been trying since Friday when I moved her into her room. Taking her off after feeding, she will wake up then popping her in the cot, I think cos it's her own room she has lots to look at so just lies there. After a while she gets upset, I pick her up and rock her to sleep. Well, last night to my amazement she was nearly sleeping, she popped her thumb in her mouth and eyes nearly shut over, then she cried, picked her up and rocked her quickly off to sleep. That's the closest I've got, so really hoping tonight she just lets herself nod off. I've got a night light that has pictures on it's and turns round, it also projects onto the ceiling, she really seems to love it. I would really recommend it.

Also, another night till 5am- maybe we really have turned a corner!!

CuteLittleToes · 10/06/2014 07:41

Stil no tangible improvement here... I really hoped I would have gotten a 5h stretch or smth already Sad

Will see how it goes for the rest of the week and if no improvement will work on getting rid of the dummy... I'm not feeling as positive anymore though..

keepitgoing · 10/06/2014 08:49

cute what are you doing when he wakes?

2 weeks in and just a brief wake up at 4 where I moved her down the cot again. 6.40pm-6am. cute do not stop now.

keepitgoing · 10/06/2014 09:11

oh and we are also on 4ish milk feeds though I sneak in an extra one usually before lunch nap. I know what you mean about feeling sad I'm sure I'll be v sad when I stop altogether, whenever that is... good that they are eating though.

Cakeismymaster · 10/06/2014 13:58

cute no real improvement here either, the move to her room hasn't lessened the wake ups.
I'm thinking I will leave the thread for a bit as feeling a bit of a failure compared to everyone else, also I'm not actually dying of sleep deprivation, I seem to deal with it ok so I've sort of resigned to just putting up with it.

ArtemisTheHunter · 10/06/2014 18:31

Cakeis you're not the only one feeling a failure... And those who are seeing improvement will sympathise with your pain! Sleep here has gone tits up again. I think there are several factors - teething, a funny tummy (which might be related), learning to sit/ pull to standing from lying down and wanting to do it ALL the time, and separation anxiety. She used to go to bed equally well for me and DP, but now I have to keep out of the way because the second she sees me she cries. She is fine when I'm not around, she can happily forget I exist for hours but as soon as I reappear she cries for mummy! We are persisting with DP doing bedtime but I think he's quite upset that she "prefers" mummy to him.

So as a result we have crying at bedtime, several night wakes and for the past few days have had an hour of inconsolable crying from around 10-11pm. I am hoping that it will right itself again when another tooth pops through and/or the novelty of being able to pull herself up starts to wear off but I fear that may be a while.

Well done to those who are having success with night weaning and self-settling. My DD is 10 months now and I honestly think we left it too late. I don't mean we should have done hardcore sleep training when young, but if we'd been more careful about routines and tried to gently encourage her to self-settle when she was younger it might not have been so hard. Oh the benefits of hindsight...

She had hopelessly short naps today and was miserably overtired by 6 so DP is trying to settle her now. I can hear her chatting... At least she's not upset but clearly there are someone acrobatics going on! As soon as he's won (which may be some time) I shall be opening the Wine. Cheers everyone.

BB01 · 10/06/2014 19:44

Cakeis, I honestly wonder whether we tend to see improvements more when we really do feel desperate. Maybe the baby somehow picks up on it or it pushes us to try new things (not saying you are not already). Up until recently I felt like that on and off - I would kind of accept the situation. It wasn't great but it kind of worked. But then she started being just impossible to get to bed and we decided we couldn't carry on like that. Really hope things get better for you soon too.

K1 that sounds very promising, well done!!! My LO has only ever self settled without screaming once in the daytime. We're usually getting her off ok at the mo but it necessitates about half an hour of horrible crying. And then I am trapped under her as we don't dare try the cot yet. We do have one of those projectors - thank you - but she can't hear it or see it cos she's just crying incessantly :-(

BB01 · 10/06/2014 19:46

Artemis, I am starting to feel a bit like that. I was so into the whole attachment parenting, baby led kind of thing before but now wish I'd actually tried to get her to self settle a bit

Cakeismymaster · 10/06/2014 20:29

Of course after posting that she has gone to bed like a dream tonight.. Hmm

BB01 · 11/06/2014 10:45

Well last night she woke after an hour then went on to do a five hour stretch then three. But she was so so upset for the first sleep. And she seems really withdrawn today, clingy, wanting milk literally every ten mins. I am so worried I'm causing her to be traumatised

Booville3 · 11/06/2014 11:10

Cakeis I've been here nearly from the start I've had the odd couple of weeks when it's all been better, I've never had too much trouble with daytime naps etc, but guess what - it's all going to pot it's like he has decided he hates his cot the minute I go near it with him he loses the plot & this is from a baby that after the first six weeks of life apart from the odd night has never co-slept!!! Frequent wakings involving little breast feeds but always back in his cot, so what the hell is going on now???