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SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

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cakebaby · 27/02/2014 20:05

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

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Cakeismymaster · 30/05/2014 19:17

Omg emma can't believe you're still here...nightmare Brew
Teething? Cruising? Just general 2am partying?

Tiredemma · 30/05/2014 19:23

teeth still not through,although every couple of weeks we get horrific nappies and bright red cheeks- but still no nashers.

I dont know why she continues to wake. Im assuming she just likes my company.

grrrr.

Cakeismymaster · 30/05/2014 19:34

What gets me too is that my dd is very chilled and happy in the day, cue comments 'oh isn't she so good?' So when I say yes apparently, but come 7pm it's a different story..then they all look at me like I am lieing through my teeth!

Mirrhi · 30/05/2014 20:51

Welcome all newcomers, or rather sorry to see you're here! Sorry I can't name check (never get the laptop off DP so always posting from tablet or phone Hmm ) but it sounds like you're all going through some exhausting times.
cute I know what you mean, they are clearlyso shattered sometimes but will NOT give in and sleep. Why just 30 mins when they're exhausted?? I'm exhausted and would give anything fof a good couple of hours FFS, why can't he???
emma, I'm liking that theory. It's just cos they love beinv with us so much that they can't bear to be asleep!
DS remains rubbish at slerping, averaging a minimum of 6 wakings a night, often 8+, and throwing in a 2 hours awake every 2-3 nights. He continues to have thd runs, day 15 now, pooing betwen 6 and 12 times in 24 hours. 3rd GP visit done, 2nd stool sample sent but still no reason found. This means that as well as wakinv to feed and waking just because, he also wakes to poo then nappy change means he's wide aake (hence the 2 hours partying in the early hours). He's fine in himself but just won't stop pooing. Why??
I'm so knackered I'm turnjng into a proper witch at home. Sad

Mirrhi · 30/05/2014 20:53

Gah, and if I ever had the laptop I might manage a post without hundreds of typos!!! Apologies, I hope you get the drift!

Mirrhi · 30/05/2014 21:27

Oh, and to add to the feeding, pooing, just because, we also now have bad dreams, where despite being fast asleep he starts whimpering, tossing fron side to side, then absolutely howling at full volume Sad It's horrible and very little seems to soothe himthrough it. It makes me want to cry not that that takes much atm

CuteLittleToes · 31/05/2014 12:49

Cake how did the big move go?

Keep this sounds amazing! I also try not to feed DS before 1am, but it doesn't stop the wakings... Sad

[Emma] poor you, I don't know what to say...

[Mirrhi] this sounds horrid, I hope it gets resolved soon!

Sorry if I missed anyone...

DS grumpy and moany pretty much from very morning, moaning alternating with screaming, only got him to nap at 12, and he's just woken up... I guess he's teething still or maybe a cold, god I wish I knew, I should be able to tell by now?

Was wondering if your LOs got unsettled after starting solids? DS seems to get a bit of wind and I often think he's straining to do a poo, but he's not constipated. When he wouldn't settle for sleep and is crying he would often fart, so I thought maybe it's bothering him? I guess they get used to it? We started solids 3 weeks ago.

keepitgoing · 31/05/2014 18:44

cute mines the same, always making a grunting/straining noise though I don't know if she's always trying to poo or if it's just her new noise...
as well as not feeding it's about getting her to get herself to sleep. she's woken a couple of times but sucked her thumb back to sleep after one or two moans. tonight is my last night feed - only fed for 3 mins last night at 2 (she's always a fast feeder she'd have been finished by 5 mins)

Emma how awful poor you!

keepitgoing · 31/05/2014 18:46

mirrhi we had a four week run of 15+ poos a day. seemed like whenever she fed she pooed so multiple night feedings could do 3 nappies in a session. I was knackered. gp said after an infection their gut can be inflamed. in an adult you'd cut out lactose but they obv can't cut out milk! eventually it gradually got better

K1spoony · 31/05/2014 19:29

Cakebaby - how did the move go? I'm trying that next week, we're away on holiday on Monday, so thought if give it a shot when I get home and see if it helps with the wake ups.

Cutelittletoes - my girl only catnaps too, it's soooo frustrating through the day!! I didn't used to mind when she slept all night, but now it's cat naps through the day and not enough sleep at night - argh!!

keepitgoing · 31/05/2014 19:38

k1 we moved her when we got back from hols so as not to disrupt her twice. no difference to wake ups though tbf I've slept in there most of the night so as not to have to traipse up and down the corridor all night

missmargot · 31/05/2014 20:51

Has anyone else become obsessed with sleep? DS has been poorly for nearly two weeks now and I can't shake this virus either, I know the lack of sleep isn't helping and I'm so run down. I think about sleep all the time, even dream about sleep whilst I'm sleeping Confused.

Mirrhi · 31/05/2014 22:37

Yep margot I'm utterly obsessed, tho the other night all I dreamt of was a fall out with DP about DSs sleep....

keep thanks for that. It's good to know someone else's DC has had similar, I'm busy convincing myself that there's something really wrong with DSs system and it's probably my fault, but you give me hope that it will eventually clear up. Just realised how bad that sounds that I'm saying it's goid to know your DC had the runs, god sorry! Didn't mean it like that of course!

BB01 · 01/06/2014 08:50

Missmargot yes I am obsessed too. Often I spend the majority of the day thinking about why she's such a poor sleeper and what we can poss do to get her to improve. Despite me originally wanting to avoid routines, I pretty much shape my whole day round when I think she'll need to nap, but because that tends to be very unpredictable it's blimmin impossible. I have a favourite daydream where I have a night to myself in a hotel with an early night and the knowledge that I'll get more than two hours of sleep in a row.

carolinementzer · 01/06/2014 09:08

Hi ladies, I know the feeling about being obsessed with DD's sleep! I totally obsessed for the first 16 months, it seemed to be on thing or another - teething, colds and coughs, allergies, separation anxiety, standing in cot, hating cot, cruising around cot at night, boob addiction you name it! I was so obsessed that I blog about my daughters sleep and what eventually worked. Some of you guys may have already seen my posts on quick settling techniques, what to do with teething and when separation anxiety kicks in, but just in case you haven't here's the link to our story - mydaughterwontsleep.com/melissa/
you may find something useful on there - or even just some solace that I suffered the same but it did get better in the end. Anyway, hope you don't mind me sharing.

keepitgoing · 01/06/2014 09:22

ah, the night in a hotel daydream.....

mirrhi so long as he's not dehydrated. are they small squitty poos? for dd they mostly were, just seemed her gut was unhappy, but she was eating normally, happy etc. bad nappy rash from all the changing though Sad hang in there

Cakeismymaster · 01/06/2014 13:21

So we have a new activity....biting..whilst feeding I mean!
Is really very painful and am now on edge the entire time she is feeding-even contemplating giving up Sad

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cakebaby · 01/06/2014 14:17

Hello all, on ph

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cakebaby · 01/06/2014 14:32

Ah shit

Can't name check as on phone. My ds had a very busy bum for a few weeks too, dr not worried, it cleared after a few weeks. Bloody annoying though it made our terrible sleep worse for a while.

Biting. Yes. Here too, he thinks me shrieking is hilarious. It BLOODY HURTS now he has top & bottom teeth. I tell him biting babies don't have boob!

Own room....hmmm....fresh hell. Ds totally thrown by different environment, horrific night on fri, would not settle in cot, on waking totally disorientated & bashed his head on bars. Then couldn't resettle him for hours so he came in with me (I've moved too). Last night he settled better but when I went to bed same again, hysterics till he came in with me.

Help me make a decision ladies, do I take the plunge and put the side on the cot & move out so he's alone? Or do I keep trying the gentle way? We don't seem to be getting anywhere with this. Thing is, he WILL NOT settle when I'm in the bed next to his cot. If I can get him back off to sleep then he wakes mins later & off we go again. Seems if I'm there he wants to be right next to me, not 6" away.

DH unhelpful, latest was 'what do you mean leave the side off, he's been in it for weeks hasn't he? I thought you'd got this all sorted' Angry

Doesn't listen to a bloody word I say. Ever.

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missmargot · 01/06/2014 15:44

My hotel room fantasy has expanded to include a spa, an evening massage and a late check out. It's what keeps me going at 3am. That said DS has been pretty good recently considering he's been ill. I can almost kid myself that if he wasn't ill he would be sleeping fine.

cake does he nap in his room during the day? My plan is to put DS's travel cot in his bedroom in a few weeks and start him napping in there so he gets used to the room prior to the big move. No idea whether it will work or not.

Cakeismymaster · 01/06/2014 16:31

'Fresh hell' Grin love that saying cake I am having that
I am envious of all you in the cot daytime nappers, that would be a disaster if I tried that here..god I am lazy I just do what's easiest, probably my downfall really..
Often do the dreaming about sleep when asleep thing too!

Cakeismymaster · 01/06/2014 16:32

Ps cake let's not discuss dh's because they're just pointless in my eyes in the current situation

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cakebaby · 01/06/2014 20:21

miss yes he naps in his cot but only morning nap. That was easy to establish but for some mystical reason he has never ever settled for his pm nap in there. I tried for WEEKS and gave up as life is too short for the hell that involved. I got him to nap a few times, weeks apart, through sheer exhaustion but he woke after 20 mins. He will happily snuggle in his pushchair in the garden in the afternoon and sleep for 2 hrs ish.

He's asleep in cot now, the side is off & attached to my bed. If I creep in & go to bed he wakes & immediately wants to come in with me. If he wakes for a feed, regardless of whether I feed him in the cot or get him out, I cannot resettle him. Attempts recently ended in a 2 hr screamfest and sick. I blinked first and we co slept. I'm wondering if I wasn't in the room at all, would he settle better.

Dh seems to be off side at the moment, which doesn't help and I'm floundering.

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missmargot · 01/06/2014 20:58

Ugh cake that sounds so difficult. Have you tried with you not being there at all? Not that my suggestions are based on any experience other than the 'just keep trying everything until something works' strategy.

Mirrhi · 01/06/2014 21:22

That sounds really tricky cake Like miss id maybe go witb the try everything route, see if you being in a different room makes a difference? DS went in a separate room for a week whilst DSSs were away and seemed to sleep better for it, as did I. No fewer wakings but they 'felt' further apart even though they weren't IYSWIM? Hope tonight goes well for you.
Thanks for the comments re DSs pooing. Yes they're usually smallish and v runny atm. He's not dehydrated, is his normal self (he's a grumpy little man much of the time to be fair!), is feeding well etc etc. I just worry too much Confused
Last night actually was a good one, only one poo, and I don't think he fed between 10.30 and 3, though my sleep deprived brain kniws there was a 12.30 wake uo but can't remember what I did to resettle him! I eithef just shush patted him or did try to feed and he felk strsight to sleepm IDK......