SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

[cakebaby]

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

bb I think that's the key when deciding to use a SC we read so much & some of it conflicts so its useful for a fresh pair of eyes to look over your situation & give you a plan with instructions . I got some advice from the lady Artemis is using when ds was trying to kill me at 4 months. She was kind and gave me a plan but ds was ill at the time too and then things changed almost immediately. In hindsight I should have just waited it out as it was all developmental not behavioural.

Artemis that's fantastic news, so much improvement, I know you're not exactly where you want to be but please, please congratulate yourself. After all you've done it on your own too, with dh supervising from a distance IIRC?!

I'm not sure where I'm going next with this but I think carrying on not feeding at resettles and trying to get him to sleep without feeding in the bedroom at all is the key. I just need to put more distance between the feed & sleep somehow. Thing is, when I tried it last week it went horribly, completly wrong and he HOWLED for 2 hours solid then I tried to feed him and couldn't as he was so distressed

Welcome BB. Sorry you're having tough time... 11mo still sleeping badly sounds very depressing...

Cakeis that's annoying. I still remember DS sleeping exclusively on me for first 10 weeks of his life, day or night. I sometimes miss the closeness, but not too much

Cake that is really a progress. I feed DS just before bedtime, but then I put him into his sleeping bag and into his crib, and he would usually wake up during that, but would still be quite calm and sleepy. Could this work for you? Sorry if you're already doing that!

DS's sleep is just so random, especially during the day. Yesterday he went 4.5h between waking up and his first nap. I hoped thought it would mean a long nap, but no, half an hour Which was clearly not enough as he then slept on me after the feed...

I think he's trying to find a comfortable position to sleep, which is on his side, but he just can't turn on his side steadily enough so keeps rolling back onto his back... So after 40 mins of this settling and rolling back and crying I just put him onto my bed, wedged him in with duvet and he slept for 4 hours... Which is great but I'd rather he did that in his bed! Any ideas? The thing is that he is sitting brilliantly from 5 months but not really rolling yet - he just doesn't seem to be very interested. When he tries he'll sometimes get it, more often not, but he just doesn't really try to practise it.

Hi. Can I join in please? 10mo DD in a proper pickle and awake 3-6 most mornings atm.
Off to read the looong fred

Thanks cakebaby, I'll give it some more thought.

Pudding, you must be knackered! That sounds really difficult.

Welcome pudding has your dd just mastered a new skill? Hopefully it won't last too long. What do you do when she's awake? Do you mean she's awake for 3 hours? I bet she needs a nap after that

cute ds did this too, he slept on his side from about 5.5 months. He couldn't quite master it, I would tightly roll a towel or blanket and wedge it in behind him but making sure it went no higher than his shoulders in case he managed to lie flat again. Its probably not recommended but I use a video monitor so was comfortable he was safe. It worked for us at the time .

However, now he wants to sleep on his front but gets in a muddle with his sleeping bag being twisted and a few alarming occasions he lies face down

cake my dd likes a bit of face down too!
Right, am here to report progress.. Last night - bed at 8, no further wakings or rage untill 11.30 when there was a biggish feed then sleep again till 3.30 then medium feed and sleep till 7! Also there was no sleeping on me! That is progress here..points of note: yesterday's naps were 3 short ones around 10, 1 and 4 and bedtime was slightly later (8). Also she didn't have any daytime formula to drink.
So, in the interests of science I have repeated all of that today (she is napping now) and let's see what tonight brings.
No top teeth still but crawling adventures have really ramped up.

Thanks for the welcomes!
She's started cruising in the last week/10 days but not walking yet but I'm guessing that's unsettled her. She's also teething (bright red hot cheeks)

Since we started her on solids her sleep improved and she typically nurses for about an hour 7:30-8:30 then again for 30 mins at 11/12 ish. Resettle at 2:30/3 (used to feed but I dropped it in the vain hope she's stop waking) then feed for an hour 5-6. Sometimes she'll then go back down for another 45-60 mins. Not great but manageable. Once or twice a week she'll need more resettling but will settle quickly.

Now the resettle just doesn't work so she's awake from c3am. She'll switch between having quiet cuddles, fighting/crying and being over excited. I'll eventually get her to crash out at 6ish. She'll still be up at sometime between 8and9.

I've tried calpol, nurofen, feeding, rocking, playing, cosleeping. NOTHING makes a difference as far as I can tell

I'm only part way through catching up on the fred. Some of you sound like you've had a tough old time of it. I find it remarkable how much we can cope with! all around

Ah pudding this is the 2nd thread for some of us yawn

My ds had a horrible spell a few weeks back of 1-2 hrs awake at about 3am. He would wake on his front & immediately start crawling round the bed (co sleeping since 4 month regression) WTF? Then wake up properly & be a complete PITA til he nodded off again & left me wide awake. It coincided with teeth/crawling/cruising and seems to have eased off a bit now. Hopefully it'll be the same for you & dd

cake how long are dd's shorter naps? Ds could do with an hour mid morning but I cannot get him to go more than 35 mins. He's knackered by lunch at 12, but when that's done he has an energy burst & crashes at about 130 for 2 hrs or so. Maybe I should bring lunch forward to 1130 (that's what his nursery do albeit he doesn't start til sept) shorter nap afterwards & a snooze 4ish? Thing is, if no late nap he's going to be raging by bedtime.

cake she seems to have 30 mins / 1 hr / 30 mins in that order..I'm hoping tonight will be ok like last night - fingers crossed!

Good luck! I've had to feed him to sleep at bedtime tonight grrr. He was nodding off just fine and woke himself up with a cough then all hell broke loose. Just resettled him though without feeding so hopefully it won't have taken us off track.

My baby slept through last night! Yay! First night in ages! Fingers crossed for another night tonight. She woke at 5.15, but that was so much better than several times a night. Hopefully it was just a wee phase and that's it passed

@cakebaby I've been doing that too, popping my hands above her arms to stop her getting them in her face , seems to help a bit and hopefully I won't need to do that anymore!

Gah! My little sleep refuser has just gone down. She fed for 90 mins then was wide awake and wired. Ended up bring her down so I could have dinner and she just cruised and cruised and cruised.
I then had to rock her for >45 mins in the sling to get her to sleep. I've given her a dream feed and am praying she won't do the 3am thing

Fx we all get a decent night

Oh well, at least I got one night of sleep,my wee one is awake! Fed and back to sleep, now hoping when I pop her in the crib that she doesn't do the crazy wake up moves!!

After over a week of only one quick wake up (so basically sleeping through by our standards), back to wake ups every 90mins last night! My ds is a complete conundrum tired.com today!!

Great news spoony !

pudding we were up too yawn emoticon please mnhq

Oh boo you poor thing. God knows what's going in here too. I gave up looking at the time at 3am after hourly wakings. Up at 530. FFS. Cot into his room tomorrow. Dreading it. Waaahhhh!

Easy bedtime here but then up at 11.45, 2, 4, 6 gah indeed
Work in 5 weeks..

cakeis you might find work easier than you think. I actually find my days in the office easier than my days at home after a bad night. The mornings are hellish but once I'm at my desk with coffee it's ok, I only have to think about me and the days go much quicker than at home.

We had a slightly better night last night. DS is still only feeding at night, the doctor said not to worry and once the antibiotics kick in he should start feeding normally again. He was up at 10, 12 and 3:30 but he went straight back to sleep after each feed which is a big improvement on the hour + it's been taking previously.

Boo that sounds awful. Somehow it's harder once you've had a glimpse of what it could be like isn't it?
Margot fx it improves for you soon

I'm feeding BabyPud now and stressing about the night ahead. I'm trying to be zen and send her zen like sleepy vibes but I doubt if it'll work.

Good luck everyone.

miss I think you could be right...imagines self drinking endless coffee and tea to make up for all the months of cold half cups necked in minutes...

Exactly that. Today I was at home and drank cold tea and had half a lunch. In the office yesterday I had a nice big Costa on the way in to work then six hot cups of tea and a proper lunch break. With cake.

I love my baby and I love being at home with him, but there are up sides to days at work.

The big move into his own room is underway

Be strong cake

Night 4 of not feeding till after 1am and she slept 7 hours till 2am!!!! We've not had that more than a couple of tomes ever and not for 3 months!

This from 90 min wake ups...

Ahh I just want to leave the house and leave my keys and not come back. Or really good earplugs...

DS just moaning and moaning... He is tired, but won't sleep. Why can't he do proper naps then, not 30 min rubbish ffs?!

I just want to cry and smash something... and eat all Jaffa cakes

Hello all.

still here.

still tired

awake solid between 2am and 5am last night.