SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

[cakebaby]

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

Morning all

Just popping in to share this gem which a friend forwarded to me... www.babysleepsite.com/awake-training-for-parents/

artemis that's brilliant I think my dd could have wrote that!
Did I mention said dd has only had one nap per day for the last 5 days? Well today, she's had 3 already...wtaf I just cannot fathom her out!

Well I have to say last two nights here have been amazing - tues night just one wake up at 4 but up for the day at 5.15, last night one wake up at midnight again up for the day at 5.15! Would love him to go a touch longer til 6 as feels a really long day but if this is his new sleep pattern I can live with it 5 hour blocks of sleep yes thank you baby boy!!! Only thing I can think that may have made any difference is his intake of food has risen dramatically but it's probably coincidence!!

Hope others have had better nights!

Artemis love it, that's brilliant!

Boo that's fab news, go miniboo!

My boy is doing good, no reduction in wake ups but he feeds well every time so I can accept them cos he's obviously hungry. He's going straight back in his cot each time though, even if he's wide awake and settling himself happily! This morning I woke up at 8.15 and lay listening to him happily singing to himself. It feels like we're both sleeping better in different rooms, so are both much happier and more content in the day which is fab The unfortunate thing is he can only stay there 2 more nights as DSSs are back on Saturday and he's in one of their rooms He'll be in the travel cot instead of his moses basket and we'll have sorted blackout curtains so hoping the improvement will continue....

Woo hoo. Lovely to hear good news. Keep it up babyboo and babymir. Babysoup played a blinder and did 7-6.30!

However I am put all day with 6 small people at a birthday outing and am out for dinner tonight. Bet she doesn't do that tonight.

Cake, that explanation does make sense... I hope your DS is just having a growth spurt and it will finish soon.

Cakeis, how was last night? Did she sleep any better after more naps?

Keep I thought it would be more tbh, let us know how it goes! Might try it as a last resort... Hope it won't come to that!

Great news Boo, just a few days ago you sounded so down, so you have your reward now Well done miniboo!

Artemis that was hilarious... My DS either wrote this or read this I think...

Good news Mirrhi that he's settling in his cot. I spoke to a friend who has 15mo girl, and she said her DD's sleep was crap for the first 6 months, and it improved once they moved her into her own room. It took a couple of weeks though, but she soon started sleeping through. I'm clinging to that hope...

Great news soup, can we have some more of that babysoup please? I guess once your LOs throw in an odd night of STTN, gradually they will become more and more frequent...

Sorry if I missed anyone...

No improvements here... DS is now refusing to go back to sleep at 7ish (we do 9-9). Today he was up at 7.15 and now is having his 2nd nap Quite whingey and clingy today too, so maybe it's teeth again... 3 weeks on and still no sign of them!

Hi all
Had the usual early evening wake ups last night then she went till 11, didn't settle again till 12 but I think she then went till 4.30 (sometimes I don't remember if she wakes!) but then only cat napped on and off till we got up at 7.30.
The different thing for the 12-4,30 stretch - I put her on her front... Obviously will be trying that again tonight!

Oh and still no top teeth here either, but have also noticed she is eating more and drinking more milk from her sippy cup in the afternoon.

Cakeis - my ds has been on his front for months now no way will he sleep on his back!

Hi, may I join in?

DD (11 months) is doing hourly awakenings and has been doing do for months. Dr thinks it may be related to multiple allergies. We are on a strict diet but it doesn't seem to be improving. Doesn't help that she's teething too

Great news boo and mirrhi

Artemis that is brilliant! It brought laughter to an otherwise dull day, thank you. How's it going? Would you recommend using a sleep trainer?

We have a top tooth, waiting for the other one to pop through now. Still erratic nights here, no pattern, early wakings, variably easy/difficult to put down.

However, we have decided its time for ds to go into his cot in his own room. He's crawling around the bed so much in the night I don't feel its safe anymore. Also I'm back to work before long & will do lates so not here at bedtime. I am gutted. I actually cried about it earlier. I love sleeping with my little ds and the cuddles despite the wakings and feeds which will no doubt continue

I've been settling him without feeding for the last few nights & I know he can do it, but tonight he's howled and howled. What the hell is the point of a nice calm 7pm asleep time if from 735 he's screaming as I won't feed him for 5 mins? FFS its so hard. I feel absolutely sick. My heart is pounding listening to him. How on earth are we am I going to do this? I just want to go and tear dh away from ds & feed the poor little screaming boy, I'm so so sad. Anyone got a grip I can borrow?

Arse kick/suggestions/advice welcome.

Hi, may I join in?

DD (11 months) is doing hourly awakenings and has been doing do for months. Dr thinks it may be related to multiple allergies. We are on a strict diet but it doesn't seem to be improving. Doesn't help that she's teething too

Ah cakeb now come on girl you can do this!! I know how you're feeling, I've found some of my totally exhausted, desperate for some sleep so we've co-sleeped/ cuddled sleeps/ naps the most wonderful but I tell myself I need to embrace each change each milestone & celebrate a new stage in ds's little life!! There comes a point where you both need your sleep & some space to allow that sleep to happen so tell yourself it's for his benefit as well, also you've said the main reason is for his safety so it's a no brainer!!

I'm sure there will still be lots of night time cuddles! I must admit ds is still in our bedroom but I've only co-slept a few times I've been fairly religious at putting him back in his cot, however the point I'm coming on to is I've just been up to check on him & 4yo old ds has crept up into our bed already (we sleep in the loft)! So you see lots of cuddles for years to come & in our case lots of nights in the spare room for DP!!!

Welcome shine that sounds a difficult situation you'll find some sympathetic ears here.

Thank you boo I'm just so unreasonably upset by it all. Ds will be an only & I'm shocked at how hard I'm finding letting go of his babyhood IYSWIM?

Anyway, ds was nicely asleep at 7, woke at 735 as usual, but I couldn't resettle him without feeding as I have done for the last few eves. It escalated to him crying hysterically for an hour, dh tried for an hour, I couldn't take anymore of it and took him to bed with me. It was dreadful, he was shaking, flinging his head about, absolutely appeared panic stricken. He had hiccups, couldn't feed and took ages to settle even hanging onto me. We then had the worst night for months, awake every 50 mins or so punctuated with hysterical crying. Up at 530, dh gone to work on no sleep. What a feckin nightmare.

Artemis how did you get on giving up co sleeping?

Are you trying a cot next to your bed initially rather than a cot in a separate room? Maybe if you can put your hand through the bars to stroke him, he is obviously (& rightly so) very attached to you so you may have to do this very gradually? Some people like the one hit approach, do it all at once iyswim but it doesn't sound like you're going to be able to cope with the mega distress??

My sis in law has just weaned her 19mo off the breast as she had had enough the only way was 3 nights of nearly screaming all night, & I mean all night not sure I could cope with this but 3 days/ nights on problem solved!

He's still in his cot beside the bed with the side off! We've decided he has to move but haven't done it yet, all I was trying to do was resettle without feeding. Like he has the last 3 nights FFS! His knows what drama we'll have when he actually moves!

His = he

I want to do it in stages but DH thinks all in one hit will be kinder.

I guess it's like anything with these baby's - trial & error! Good luck though, keep us updated!

Hope you're having a better night! Ds was good again last night & has gone to bed well tonight & so far so good, could we finally have cracked it!!

Oh Cakeb my heart goes out to you. I wish I could give you an answer but I truly don't know it. I know I'd be with you on the do it in stages, and like your DH, my DP would say one hit. Not sure on the answer to that one either :-/
All I can say is remember just because last night was a step backwards it doesn't mean you can't step forwards again. He can do it, and so can you, you've both proved that. You'll get there. Be kind to yourselves xxx

Thanks boo and mirrhi its so hard isn't it? Its all my own doing too. Poor ds has been an absolute tyrant all day, he's so tired. Naps a nightmare and very little to eat. Dh says 'well at least its only sleep that's difficult' but he fails to see ds is a different child in the day when tired. EVERYTHING is difficult: getting dressed, feeds, solids, nappy changing, playing, naps, bath, bedtime.... I really don't know how to change it. I don't think there is a no cry solution, but I must be able to limit it somehow.

I am moving his cot into his own room next week & moving with him. I'll try to settle him without feeding still, but not to the extent we went to last night. I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet & resettle into cot each time to try and sort the co sleeping issue. We'll all be even more tired but I have to start somewhere.

Hard for us to remember sometimes as well that they are so in tune with us mummy's that if we are distressed/ struggling etc it heightens their upset! It's an absolute minefield we need to try & hang on to all the wonderful bits of it all - can you tell I've had a bit more sleep these last few nights this time last week I was a broken woman!

You're right cakeb it is your own doing. Because for the last however many months you've fed DS when he needed it. You've cuddled your little boy when he's wanted it. You've helped him sleep when he needed it. You've done everything you can to be the best mum in the world, and you've succeeded. Do Not beat yourself up for that! You've done everything absolutely right to keep him happy, feeling safe and loved. Now is just the next stage of that journey.
Have you read Jo Frost's CTCT technique? You're right, it's not a no cry solution, but I've started trying it and found it's not as terrible as I predicted.
I hope tonight goes ok and send you hugs xx

Thank you mirrhi sob
Boo you are so right about stress vibes, dh is very sensitive to my mood.

Its so random. Tonight he was asleep at 715 after just 8 mins, didn't stir til 9, quick shush and a few words and he's asleep again. There is no pattern to it at all. I just have to remind myself that 2 months ago he would no settle without a feed. Not. A. Chance. So there must be some progress, right? Goog luck all tonight

Fucks sake. DS sensitive to my mood, dh couldn't give a shiny shite

Oh dear god....goog? WTF is goog? GOOD